Indian land claim paradox

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Which one of these freemen carried smallpox as you claim no white men did inbred chimp.? Or was it on a later trip when he carried slaves from Africa to work the cane fields? Don't babble some irrelevant crap spit it out.

You'd be the jackass babbling nonsense, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Cite where Columbus transported African slaves to Hispaniola, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. State the name of the white man you claim carried smallpox to the New World, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You'd be the jackass babbling nonsense, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Cite where Columbus transported African slaves to Hispaniola, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. State the name of the white man you claim carried smallpox to the New World, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

LMAO you are a fucking fraud sperm bank the inbred chimp. You have no answers so you try to deflect .

You said Columbus was not the first slaver, but cannot name who was.
You said Africans brought smallpox to the Americas, but cannot name who it was.
You have denied European immigration brought smallpox to the Americas.
You are dismissed.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

LMAO you are a fucking fraud sperm bank the inbred chimp. You have no answers so you try to deflect .

You said Columbus was not the first slaver, but cannot name who was.
You said Africans brought smallpox to the Americas, but cannot name who it was.
You have denied European immigration brought smallpox to the Americas.
You are dismissed.

It was your contention, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, that it had to have been a smallpox infected European who carried smallpox to the New World. That notion, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, was shoved up your uneducated-ass by the fact that there were African adventurers fighting and exploring alongside the Spanish conquistadors, and your ignorant ass can't name, or even prove, that it was an infected European who carried smallpox to the New World. Your stupid-ass claimed Columbus was the first slaver in the African slave trade, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, but you had your ass handed to you over that claim. In fact, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, your stupid-ass can't back up your stupid POV with a factual citation showing that Columbus carried African slaves to the New World.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

It was your contention, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, that it had to have been a smallpox infected European who carried smallpox to the New World. That notion, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, was shoved up your uneducated-ass by the fact that there were African adventurers fighting and exploring alongside the Spanish conquistadors, and your ignorant ass can't name, or even prove, that it was an infected European who carried smallpox to the New World. Your stupid-ass claimed Columbus was the first slaver in the African slave trade, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, but you had your ass handed to you over that claim. In fact, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, your stupid-ass can't back up your stupid POV with a factual citation showing that Columbus carried African slaves to the New World.

That was a sad ass attempt at deflection sperm bank the inbred chimp, No answers on your part, failed the course. No name for the African carrying smallpox, denied smallpox was in Europe long before Columbus sailed. Cannot name the slaver before Columbus coming to the Americas .About time for a meltdown chimp.

[CuteOldGuy]

Let's be clear, and get a little back on track. The white Europeans conquered this land. They defeated the Native Americans. That's the way conquest works. We have to live with that. Where the government stole land was by breaking bona fide treaties with the Native Americans. These were legal documents, and accorded status as the "law of the land". Yet when they became inconvenient, the government ignored them. Those are the crimes against the First Nations. The Black Hills and other lands are still theirs. They should get them back.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

That was a sad ass attempt at deflection sperm bank the inbred chimp, No answers on your part, failed the course. No name for the African carrying smallpox, denied smallpox was in Europe long before Columbus sailed. Cannot name the slaver before Columbus coming to the Americas .About time for a meltdown chimp.

The Aztecs were slavers BEFORE Columbus reached the New World, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Furthermore, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, it is not necessary to name a name, because 1) the only thing necessary here was to refute your contention that it had to have been an infected European who carried smallpox to the New World, and 2) your stupid ass can't name the name of the European you claim carried the disease to the New World. In the first instance, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, your POV is invalidated and refuted by the fact that smallpox is first and foremost an African disease and that there were scores if not hundreds of Africans -- freemen -- serving as soldiers and sailors alongside the Spanish conquistadors. The second instance, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, needs no further explanation except to add that you are a miserable hypocrite who cannot meet the very standard you insist. Produce your name, or STFU, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Let's be clear, and get a little back on track. The white Europeans conquered this land. They defeated the Native Americans. That's the way conquest works. We have to live with that. Where the government stole land was by breaking bona fide treaties with the Native Americans. These were legal documents, and accorded status as the "law of the land". Yet when they became inconvenient, the government ignored them. Those are the crimes against the First Nations. The Black Hills and other lands are still theirs. They should get them back.

Those are very valid statements.

Dee Brown's Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, while a compelling story, is a very biased account of events; yet, it seems to be the account liberals (speaking in generalities and not you in particular, COG, ) recite. I read the book shortly after it was published and found it very affecting. But I kept reading. In my pursuit for more information, I began reading about what happened in the East before the the white man moved out onto the Great Plains. Some bad-ass shit went down on both sides -- white and red -- in the East before the American Revolution. That struggle was bitter and cruel, and the experience, we in the 21st century often forget, of that cultural conflict in the East was common knowledge to the pioneers who moved westward. How they responded and what they did was predicated on their knowledge, often imprecise and exaggerated, of those earlier events.

The more I learned about the cruelty in the struggle in the East during the pre-Revolutionary period, the less abashed I became about rejecting the notion that "whitey" was responsible for all of the evil in this world.

Very recently, I read about an honorable white man who served as an Indian agent in the Southwest before and during the Civil War. Through his administration, the government dealt fairly with the tribes. He was a true friend to the Native Americans he served. One day he went hunting and never came back. A year or so latter, soldiers found his butchered body. No individual, no tribe ever admitted responsibility for his death, but the lot of the Native American in that region worsened under the watch of his replacement: who was not a true friend to the Native Americans in that region.

[Old-T]

At least IB is consistent. It is always the fault of the inferior darker skinned people. I am surprised we don't see you quote in lots of white supremacist papers. But who knows, maybe they ARE written by you. Except northern whites--everyone knows they are dark skinned people after being bleached.

The more you post, the more you are laughed at. In that was you're better than the Sunday comics.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Old-T

At least IB is consistent. It is always the fault of the inferior darker skinned people. I am surprised we don't see you quote in lots of white supremacist papers. But who knows, maybe they ARE written by you. Except northern whites--everyone knows they are dark skinned people after being bleached.

The more you post, the more you are laughed at. In that was you're better than the Sunday comics.

You're a liar and a hypocrite, Old-THUMPER. A honest look at the facts, Old-THUMPER, reveals that given half a chance the red man would have exterminated the white man, you supercilious jackass. And per your "out-of-Africa" remark, Old-THUMPER, that means that every crime since Homo sapiens walked out Olduvai Gorge has been and "African on African" crime. So, go screw your supercilious self, Old-THUMPER.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

It was your contention, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, that it had to have been a smallpox infected European who carried smallpox to the New World. That notion, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, was shoved up your uneducated-ass by the fact that there were African adventurers fighting and exploring alongside the Spanish conquistadors, and your ignorant ass can't name, or even prove, that it was an infected European who carried smallpox to the New World. Your stupid-ass claimed Columbus was the first slaver in the African slave trade, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, but you had your ass handed to you over that claim. In fact, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, your stupid-ass can't back up your stupid POV with a factual citation showing that Columbus carried African slaves to the New World.

All of the "bobing and weaving " that EKIM does on here must be good training for his work down at woomby's KansASS franchised gloryholes !

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Old-T

At least IB is consistent. It is always the fault of the inferior darker skinned people. I am surprised we don't see you quote in lots of white supremacist papers. But who knows, maybe they ARE written by you. Except northern whites--everyone knows they are dark skinned people after being bleached.

The more you post, the more you are laughed at. In that was you're better than the Sunday comics.

Just the same old same old, it was not any whites breaking treaties, or raiding villages. It was no white immigrants bringing any disease just Africans. Sperm bank the inbred chimp is a racist.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Just the same old same old, it was not any whites breaking treaties, or raiding villages. It was no white immigrants bringing any disease just Africans. Sperm bank the inbred chimp is a racist.

Post the verifiable name, as you so hypocritically insist, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, or STFU.

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

All of the "bobing and weaving " that EKIM does on here must be good training for his work down at woomby's KansASS franchised gloryholes !

+1

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Post the verifiable name, as you so hypocritically insist, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, or STFU.


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I asked first, fuck off chimp.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

I asked first, fuck off chimp.

Post the verifiable name, as you so hypocritically insist, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, or STFU.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Let's be clear, and get a little back on track. The white Europeans conquered this land. They defeated the Native Americans. That's the way conquest works. We have to live with that. Where the government stole land was by breaking bona fide treaties with the Native Americans. These were legal documents, and accorded status as the "law of the land". Yet when they became inconvenient, the government ignored them. Those are the crimes against the First Nations. The Black Hills and other lands are still theirs. They should get them back.

Yes, they should get them back. Let's see how liberal old Ted Turner is when he has to give up his land.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Post the verifiable name, as you so hypocritically insist, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, or STFU.

One of the 1300 men who accompanied Bertolomeo Columbus to Hispaniola in 1493 from Spain. Close enough for you? 90% of the native population died from disease resulting in bringing African slaves to work in 1503.