America: #1 globally in mass shootings

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Why would "they" stage this? What is the purpose behind it? What agenda is advanced by this?

Why would they stage it? Well because they can. There was a time not so long ago that there was a ban against the news media to use propaganda to further political agendas. In recent years that ban has been lifted. It's perfectly legal for the media to use propaganda. The use of propaganda enables to media to have full control over a story in terms of the initial story line, people involved and their lives before the incident. Even if an event is totally legit the use of propaganda enables the media to alter particulars of that event to meet a political agenda. This event in Virginia, has all the makings of a psyop. I know I said it was staged, and it could very well be, but even if it's not and the shooting is legit they're elements that are being utilized to further public opinion. The most noticeable is the firearm. We need to consider gun control. Secondly we have victimization. Black guy shoots white former coworkers because of racism at work. Third sign of a psyop is the victimized individual had a diary or manifesto which illustrates his disgruntlement. Think back a little bit on Elliot Rogers. His diary illustrated his dissent towards women. He felt victimized. Women didn't like him they treated him like shit. So he decided to go on a shooting spree. Dylan Roof same thing. His dissent was all about black people so he goes to a church and kills nine black people. Whether an event is legit or orchestrated the media has the ability and support to present to us a narrative that supports a political or social agenda. We are under the guise that the media is always right and they would never deceive us. Which of course isn't' true.

Jim

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Why would they stage it? Well because they can. There was a time not so long ago that there was a ban against the news media to use propaganda to further political agendas. In recent years that ban has been lifted. It's perfectly legal for the media to use propaganda. The use of propaganda enables to media to have full control over a story in terms of the initial story line, people involved and their lives before the incident. Even if an event is totally legit the use of propaganda enables the media to alter particulars of that event to meet a political agenda. This event in Virginia, has all the makings of a psyop. I know I said it was staged, and it could very well be, but even if it's not and the shooting is legit they're elements that are being utilized to further public opinion. The most noticeable is the firearm. We need to consider gun control. Secondly we have victimization. Black guy shoots white former coworkers because of racism at work. Third sign of a psyop is the victimized individual had a diary or manifesto which illustrates his disgruntlement. Think back a little bit on Elliot Rogers. His diary illustrated his dissent towards women. He felt victimized. Women didn't like him they treated him like shit. So he decided to go on a shooting spree. Dylan Roof same thing. His dissent was all about black people so he goes to a church and kills nine black people. Whether an event is legit or orchestrated the media has the ability and support to present to us a narrative that supports a political or social agenda. We are under the guise that the media is always right and they would never deceive us. Which of course isn't' true.

Jim

You're pulling a crawdaddy already. It might be staged now. You were sure as shit yesterday. Do you ever stop and consider there are just some fucked up people out there? We need to have a discussion about gun control, do you deny that?


Who is 'they'? Every news organization in America is lying? You think they can orchestrate that?

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Of course it's normal to have onlookers walking around while a news team is filming. But that's only normal when a news team is aware of people in the vicinity of the filming and you can bet they are fully aware of what's around them. If you go back and view the original video you'll notice the cameraman is filming what's below the deck. He pans his camera in all directions to give viewers a good overall idea of what Bridgewater Plaza looks like. You should notice there is absolutely no activity what so ever. No cars in the parking lot, no people walking around. Then a figure shows up on the deck. None of the three show any signs through eye contact or any other body language that another person is in their presence. The shooter approaches way to close to the filming for the three to behave so oblivious. Doesn't make sense to me.

Jim

There's no one there because it was goddamn early in the morning. This was a morning show. They don't make eye contact because they're filming a live TV shot. They're professionals. They're not going to be looking around like idiots. You keep coming back to things not making sense to you or not being logical. Things aren't always GOING to make sense to you or be logical. That's the nature of things. If you try to look at every occurrence in life and square it with what you think is logical, that's a long unhappy life my friend.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

They are mostly fags, so they don't see women anyway......LOL

True, they're all mostly giving each other reacharounds. Then they come on here and call everyone else gay because they're so deep in the closet they'll never get out.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

True, they're all mostly giving each other reacharounds. Then they come on here and call everyone else gay because they're so deep in the closet they'll never get out.

Pot meets kettle !

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

There's no one there because it was goddamn early in the morning. This was a morning show. They don't make eye contact because they're filming a live TV shot. They're professionals. They're not going to be looking around like idiots. You keep coming back to things not making sense to you or not being logical. Things aren't always GOING to make sense to you or be logical. That's the nature of things. If you try to look at every occurrence in life and square it with what you think is logical, that's a long unhappy life my friend.

That strengthens my point even further. It was an early broadcast with no reason to believe anyone would be around. Then someone does enter their space with no valid reason to be there. But because they are professionals they just simply pretend not to notice. Not even a glance. What's even more unusual an ex-employee who has been gone for two years and left under less than amicable circumstances. Professional or not, that still should have been a red light.

Jim

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Why would they stage it? Well because they can. There was a time not so long ago that there was a ban against the news media to use propaganda to further political agendas. In recent years that ban has been lifted. It's perfectly legal for the media to use propaganda. The use of propaganda enables to media to have full control over a story in terms of the initial story line, people involved and their lives before the incident. Even if an event is totally legit the use of propaganda enables the media to alter particulars of that event to meet a political agenda. This event in Virginia, has all the makings of a psyop. I know I said it was staged, and it could very well be, but even if it's not and the shooting is legit they're elements that are being utilized to further public opinion. The most noticeable is the firearm. We need to consider gun control. Secondly we have victimization. Black guy shoots white former coworkers because of racism at work. Third sign of a psyop is the victimized individual had a diary or manifesto which illustrates his disgruntlement. Think back a little bit on Elliot Rogers. His diary illustrated his dissent towards women. He felt victimized. Women didn't like him they treated him like shit. So he decided to go on a shooting spree. Dylan Roof same thing. His dissent was all about black people so he goes to a church and kills nine black people. Whether an event is legit or orchestrated the media has the ability and support to present to us a narrative that supports a political or social agenda. We are under the guise that the media is always right and they would never deceive us. Which of course isn't' true.

Jim

I have one last question for you Jim, when they hold the funerals will you STFU? Get off this (staged) fake shooting.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

That strengthens my point even further. It was an early broadcast with no reason to believe anyone would be around. Then someone does enter their space with no valid reason to be there. But because they are professionals they just simply pretend not to notice. Not even a glance. What's even more unusual an ex-employee who has been gone for two years and left under less than amicable circumstances. Professional or not, that still should have been a red light.

Jim

So, if it's all staged, why didn't they look at the gunman? The interview itself was being beamed on a live feed, so that much of it was real. They aren't going to glance when they're on TV.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

I have one last question for you Jim, when they hold the funerals will you STFU? Get off this (staged) fake shooting.

It depends on the degree of coverage. If they show people viewing an open casket most likely this incident is authentic and I would admit to being wrong. On the other hand if the caskets remain closed my initial outlook stands.

Jim

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

It depends on the degree of coverage. If they show people viewing an open casket most likely this incident is authentic and I would admit to being wrong. On the other hand if the caskets remain closed my initial outlook stands.

Jim

Why would they show an open casket? Even then, it could be an actor holding their breath. You're fucking bonkers.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Meanwhile in Distractionville...



UN Plot to Confiscate American Guns Just Took a Giant Step Forward - Thanks Congress!


http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/un...anks-congress/

Trapped within the fanfare Chinese Black Monday and the American stock market plunging almost 600 points yesterday, suspicious explosions in China and on an American military base, there has been a very important, but quiet development ,which is escaping the attention of both the American people and the Independent Media.

The Corker Bill Spells the End of the Second Amendment

We are safe from the ravages of the UN Small Arms Treaty, aren’t we? In fact, many Senators have openly stated that they refuse to ratify this controversial treaty. Well, that is not exactly true. There is a new process established by the new Corker bill may very well have changed the way treaties are passed from here on out.

Under our Constitution, a full two thirds vote from senators for ratification to approve any kind of a treaty. This provision of the Constitution is very clear on this point and it is designed to prevent a treasonous subversion of the Constitution. However when one is living under a criminal enterprise, such as the one presented by the present criminal enterprise in power, who worries about following the rules? As a case in point, under the Corker bill, in order to have stopped the Iran nuclear deal, a two thirds vote to stop it from being implemented by the White House. This is not what the Constitution says and this out and out treason against the people of the United States as the Corker bill is a back door to taking our guns while nullifying the second Amendment.

Under the Corker bill, the following paragraphs describe what we are in for.

The Plot to Disarm America Is Commencing

The evidence is mounting that Obama and his colleagues at the United Nations are preparing for complete gun confiscation of civilian owned American guns. There is a new document, previously held secret, which has surfaced and clearly signals the intention of the United Nations to engage in gun confiscation in the relatively near future. The document is damning, however, the existence of the document is not even needed to prove the point that there is a major confrontation brewing between the American people and an international peace-keeping UN force, and it’s coming right around the corner.

Another Nail In America’s Coffin

The following is a smoking gun document that presents seven sequential steps designed to culminate in the total disarmament of the American nation. For those of you that know your history, you will note that there were 17 genocides in the 20th Century and in each case, these genocides were preceded by gun confiscation by the host government. According to the Democide Project located at the University of Hawaii, governments killed far more people, an estimated 26o million victims, than even war. History shows that if we ever allow government, the UN, or the U.S., to ever be able to seize our guns, we are signing our death warrant!

The following document is a declaration of war against the United States people. For those who find the document to be on the blurry side, scroll down to the Appendix to view a clearer copy.


The UN and its cohorts have accomplished steps 1-5 (see below). They are now working on steps 6 and 7 which would constitute complete disarmament of the American people.

The UN and its cohorts have accomplished steps 1-5 (see below). They are now working on steps 6 and 7 which would constitute complete disarmament of the American people.

If one examines the first five steps of the plot, it is easy to ascertain the pattern of gun confiscation that Obama has attempted to follow. I do not believe that Obama has to completely implement steps 1-5 before moving to enforce steps 6 and 7. Therefore, even though Obama has not completely implemented the first five steps across the country, he has done enough to usher in Steps 6 and 7 in this United Nations disarmament plan. Steps 6 and 7 are listed below:

“6. Finally, codification of laws to completely makes any and all firearms illegal to own, possess or use outside of military and law enforcement usage.

7. Creation of a United Nations Police Taskforce with the specific mission of assisting member nations with the collection of weaponry from civilian hands”.

The proof for the validity of the intentions signaled by this document does not lie in the authenticity of any single document. The smoking gun evidence that Obama is progressively moving towards seizing all 300,000,000 civilian guns in this country, lies in the ubiquitous manner in which Obama has pursued sequential and progressive steps toward the disarming of the American people. As it has been said, “Judge a man by what he does, not by what he says”. The cases in point would be what Obama has tried to accomplish after the Boston Marathon Bombing, the Batman Aurora, CO. shootings and the Sandy Hook event. With some very sloppy bootstrapping steps following these events, Obama has progressively attempted to make guns more difficult to obtain and he has greatly expanded what is defined as “military grade weapons” and to limit what is considered to be “appropriate” for hunting as he has tried to block Americans from obtaining as many of these weapons as possible.

“1. Classification of military grade weapons to be made illegal for possession”.

“4. Codification of laws to begin the restricting and strict licensing of hunting grade firearms.”

I am certain that most people familiar with present Second Amendment debates will recognize the various and omnipresent “gun buy-back” programs funded with your tax money designed to remove guns from civilian hands.

“2. Creation of programs to provide reasonable compensation for voluntary surrender of said arms”.

How many times have we witnessed Obama standing before the cameras and national press corps and threaten to take unilateral action against our gun rights following each one of the false flag events mentioned above? In each instance, Obama has used thinly veiled excuses that he only wants to take away guns that “military grade weapons”.

“1. Classification of military grade weapons to be made illegal for possession.

5. Codification of laws to restrict the sale of, and possession of ammunition and components to manufacture ammunition”.

Connecting the Dots for Gun Confiscation

Even if the the UN document designed to disarm America, listed above, was not genuine (and it is), the following, very public document has been proven to be very authentic.

Under the heading, “Hiding in plain sight”, the United Nations has been advertising for the following position for over a year:

Posting Title: Disarmament, Demobilization and Reintegration Officer, P4
Job Title Code: DISARMAMENT, DEMOBILIZATION AND REINTEGRATION OFFICER

Department/Office: Department of Peacekeeping Operations
Duty Station: New York

Job Description: A minimum of seven years of progressively responsible experience in disarmament, demobilisation and reintegration or related area. Experience working within peacekeeping, peace-building or development programmes operations is desirable. Experience with small arms control, conflict/post-conflict crisis management, economic recovery is desirable. Experience coordinating multiple partner agencies, funds or programmes is desirable.


Secretary of State, John Kerry, signing away America’s freedom, security and longevity as he signs the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.

There is even more fuel to throw on this raging fire as we consider the fact that, at the behest of President Obama, Secretary of State John Kerry illegally, and in direct violation to the Constitution of the United States, signed the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The UN Arms Trade Treaty contains all 7 provisions listed above in the Disarmament Commission of the United Nations.


We should also be focusing on the military invasion that is about to unfold in this country. This will be the military invasion that will be UN sponsored and it will be the one that seizes our guns. Take a look at the following images of UN military vehicles spotted and photographed in our country in the past 14 months.

Conclusion

Thanks to Congress, Obama has found a backdoor way around the Second Amendment by subverting our treaty process. The stealth in which this is occurring is mind-boggling. I hope that many of the readers will share this information with friends and neighbors. Americans cannot comply with the treason that will arise out of this act.

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/un...SQV2DBeQKKb.99

[Budman]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Great defense Budman.

You offer no facts, just vitriol and more personal attacks. And, as is your way, you insist on making it personal.

Do you deny the OP? Do you deny that more people have died from gunfire since 1968 than all US wars combined?

Drink up, asshole. This one's for you.

I have no idea if that is true or not. I find it hard to believe but I'm not arguing that point right now. This was not mentioned in the article linked to in the original post.

Do you agree that you made up the statement that the US is the most dangerous country in the world?

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

Why would they show an open casket? Even then, it could be an actor holding their breath. You're fucking bonkers.

Talk about bonkers. You fair better as a sheeple.


Jim

[Budman]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

You have pointed out nothing. You have no facts on your side. Where have you cited ONE thing? We are the most dangerous civilized country in the world. You have made nothing but nonfactual statements, so by your own account, you are a stupid motherfucker. Good day. Go hit a little ball with a bunch of other dudes, queen.

Bullshit. I pointed out that the article was disingenuous in the way it reported the facts. Every mass shooting is tragic. Comparing the US with 320 million people to countries with less than half (far less in some cases) and claiming how bad we are is bullshit. The article was nothing more than a liberal attempt at rallying the base for gun control.

I play with my own balls while you on the other hand play with someone else's balls. I'm sure that is while you have his dick in your mouth.

[Budman]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

In your rush to judgement, you have gotten the title wrong. We are the leader in mass shootings globally. You're getting hung up on semantics and not addressing the real issues here. Why do you do that? You have nothing to say about the issues? You're ok with the way things are? What is it?

You're right that more mass shootings happen in the US compared to other countries. If you break it down to mass shootings per 100,000 people we would not be on the top of the list. Using your logic then how about this, more whites are killed by police than blacks. I already know you argument that their are many more whites in the country than blacks. No shit Sherlock.