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Old 11-30-2024, 11:40 PM   #106
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... Really? ... And how do YOU know?

#### Salty
Because I’m not an idiot. How about using some common sense. Threatening your neighbor with a 25% tax on all your business is likened to extortion.

Are you saying that Trump is so charismatic that he can threaten to tax Canadians and Americans billions of dollars on their exports and imports then convince them that it’s a friendly act?

That’s just delusional.
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Old Yesterday, 06:45 AM   #108
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Because I’m not an idiot...
Best not to suggest you run a poll on that.
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...How about using some common sense...
Bingo! Now you're on to something. You still think of a tariff as a discreate tax, while ignoring all of the offsets to other taxes. That's fine, many make the same mistake, i.e. only looking at the tariff, not the opportunities they create to jettison other taxes and produce a net reduction to the US taxpayer. So the question becomes: Where do your loyalties lay? In the US or other countries?

But the bigger picture is something altogether different. Tariffs have been a thing, world wide, for a very long time. Ever hear of "dumping"? That's where a country decides to flood a market with subsidized goods to crater a specific industry to later jack prices for their ultimate gain and industry dominance. Another tariff example.

And then there's the cudgel: That's where you do this, we do that. Basically, the bigger picture scenario. Trying to sell things to us built from slave labor, as an example. Should we accept that? What about flooding our country with interlopers and contraband, while try to sell us products? So the question becomes: Where do your loyalties lay? In the US or other countries?
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Best not to suggest you run a poll on that.Bingo! Now you're on to something. You still think of a tariff as a discreate tax, while ignoring all of the offsets to other taxes. That's fine, many make the same mistake, i.e. only looking at the tariff, not the opportunities they create to jettison other taxes and produce a net reduction to the US taxpayer. So the question becomes: Where do your loyalties lay? In the US or other countries?

But the bigger picture is something altogether different. Tariffs have been a thing, world wide, for a very long time. Ever hear of "dumping"? That's where a country decides to flood a market with subsidized goods to crater a specific industry to later jack prices for their ultimate gain and industry dominance. Another tariff example.

And then there's the cudgel: That's where you do this, we do that. Basically, the bigger picture scenario. Trying to sell things to us built from slave labor, as an example. Should we accept that? What about flooding our country with interlopers and contraband, while try to sell us products? So the question becomes: Where do your loyalties lay? In the US or other countries?

And often the same people that scream tariffs will cause inflation totally ignore the inflationary costs of regulations with often the only benefit being someone in the government gets a job.
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Because I’m not an idiot. How about using some common sense. Threatening your neighbor with a 25% tax on all your business is likened to extortion.

Are you saying that Trump is so charismatic that he can threaten to tax Canadians and Americans billions of dollars on their exports and imports then convince them that it’s a friendly act?

That’s just delusional.
... Hmmmm... So, IF we follow yer-own logic, Trump is now
doing extortion to Trudeau and Canada, yes?

So, then Trudeau - who must be fraught with anger and
offence - heads straight to Mar-a-Lago to confront
another nation's next leader?

From the photos they're showing - Trudeau surely seems
to be having a good time. ... ...

So, SEE? - It was a friendly act. ...

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Because I’m not an idiot. How about using some common sense. Threatening your neighbor with a 25% tax on all your business is likened to extortion.

Are you saying that Trump is so charismatic that he can threaten to tax Canadians and Americans billions of dollars on their exports and imports then convince them that it’s a friendly act?

That’s just delusional.
This is Trump’s modus operandi. His tariff threats are used as a jumping off point for negotiations over the current thing. They almost never happen but do bring the other side to the table, which is exactly what they’re intended to do.
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... Hmmmm... So, IF we follow yer-own logic, Trump is now
doing extortion to Trudeau and Canada, yes?

So, then Trudeau - who must be fraught with anger and
offence - heads straight to Mar-a-Lago to confront
another nation's next leader?

From the photos they're showing - Trudeau surely seems
to be having a good time. ... ...

So, SEE? - It was a friendly act. ...

#### Salty
Yeah, all leaders frown and grump in photo ops.

How simple!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Trudeau likes fucking the Ice Queen. (Someone’s gotta do it)
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Default Let's rewind and review the tape...

Trump threatens 25% tariffs on Canada if'n they don't clean up the border of illegals and contraband. Truedope does the math, i.e. ~80% of their exports ship to the USA. Within 48 hours, he is knocking at the door to Mar-a-Lago with hat in hand.

Knock-knock
Who's there?
Truedope
Truedope who?
Truedope we be closing up the border bruddah.
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Old Yesterday, 09:18 PM   #114
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... INDEED SO! ....

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Hope Mr. Trump's ideas for the 2nd term turn out better than the first time around.


Last time around he was telling everyone Mexico would pay for a border wall....which Mexico never did. Then Trump saw the chance to raise money and donations to pay for it. Unfortunately his chief strategist is facing criminal charges for taking that money.


There is a very good chance tariffs like these would stagnate the economy. Currently the markets just made a
47th all time high. But we don't want to give the Biden administration too much credit for that.
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