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HedonistForever · 10-29-2020, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SecretE

Think there are too many links that need to be connected to get the average person to understand the depth of corruption of the Bidens. There is no single Joe Biden caught "red-handed" moment revealed that can summarize it. Then again, even if they could link them all together effectively, 95%+ of the media will not cover it anyways.

Yes there is, it is in the Bobulinski interview I posted in the thread "SURREAL". Watch it if you want to see and hear many more than one single moment.

But you are right, albeit your number is wrong, 99% of the media will not cover this story. The FBI and DOJ now have all this evidence and whether they will do anything with it is in doubt.

HedonistForever · 10-29-2020, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sportfisherman

Y'all still discussing the Rudy G. Ukranian Spy Shopped Around Laptop ?

The one supported by BoBo Belinsky ?

Was that in the new Borat movie ?

I know Rudy G. was.

I think the Rudy G. star turn is getting more traction than the laptop thing.

I know your preference for pithy, so a simple yes or no will do. Did you watch the interview with Bobulinski that I posted? Are you even aware of the evidence presented since it has not been covered by any news media other than Fox?

royamcr · 10-29-2020, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SecretE

Think there are too many links that need to be connected to get the average person to understand the depth of corruption of the Bidens. There is no single Joe Biden caught "red-handed" moment revealed that can summarize it. Then again, even if they could link them all together effectively, 95%+ of the media will not cover it anyways.

I guarantee Biden is less than 10% as corrupt as Trump is if any at all... Trump pretty much brags about all his dealings cause he is a dumb fuck.

HedonistForever · 10-29-2020, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by royamcr

I guarantee Biden is less than 10% as corrupt as Trump is if any at all... Trump pretty much brags about all his dealings cause he is a dumb fuck.

Can we expect to see that in a campaign ad or bumper sticker?

"Joe Biden is only 8% as corrupt as Trump"!

Of course somebody is going to ask that they prove the accuracy of the 8 % figure....... well, probably not, who cares after all.

Me, I'm perfectly willing to accept both are corrupt and let's talk only about policy issues.

Both men are accused of being sexual predators. Both accused of corruption and lying about it. Both accused of nepotism.

Biden has a history of dealing with a virus outbreak mush less lethal than Covid and his Chief of Staff says they did everything wrong and it was a miracle that more people didn't die because their response was so bad and Biden is going to be the one to better handle Covid when there is very little a President can do "at this point" to combat the virus?

Biden is "finally" admitting there is very little he can do but to "try" and convince Governors and Mayor's to mandate masks and shutdowns and can only mandate those things at a federal not a state level.

There literally, at this point in time, isn't a damn thing Joe Biden can do that Trump isn't doing other than the gloom and doom of a "dark Winter".

A majority of Americans continue to believe that Trump could better handle the economic recovery than Biden.

Ad to that, there is nothing Biden can do on Covid that Trump isn't doing.

And there are good reasons to re-elect Trump.

nevergaveitathought · 10-29-2020, 10:52 AM

I'm wondering what kind of guarantee that is? will he make up the 90% difference to us?

speaking of corruption

there are all kinds, some worse and more consequential to the nation than other sorts

using your office and betraying your office and country for mammon as you lie directly to the nation to fill your belly already excessively full has to rank right up there as exceedingly bad

not to speak of being beholden to china and everywhere else

and that's where biden is, not trump

rexdutchman · 10-29-2020, 11:23 AM

Oh yeah, 50 in guberment livin off the people / 4 years , all the rest as a businessman NO COMMON SENSE LEFT IN THIS COUNTRY

sportfisherman · 10-29-2020, 12:29 PM

I did not watch the interview.

I used to read the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers comic books a long time ago.

BoBo Belinsky was a character in them.

Is it the same guy ?

I did watch a clip of Rudy G. in the new Borat movie.Does that count ?

Did you guys watch the documentary "Totally Under Control" ?

I'm sure you all have heard the old election axiom "It's the economy Stupid".

Well this election year is "It's the Virus Stupid".

Laptop Craptop !!

Why_Yes_I_Do · 10-29-2020, 03:52 PM

Appears we won't get to see more Hunter Pecker pics for a bit. Instead, they are shifting gears to show whao was where doing what and paying who. Fine, but so long as we get back to watching Hunter dogging one of the Obamma girls before too long I guess.

Hunter Biden Met CNOOC during Bohai Shareholder Conference Trip in Beijing

Dear brothers-in-arms! Everyone’s attention must have been attracted by the videos and photos exposed over the past few days. Now, the brainstorming time is coming! Are you ready? What follows are evidences as solid as gravity, showing what harms and threats the Chinese and American kleptocrats are imposing to the whole of mankind and disclosing their ignorance to law and order, total humiliations to females, and their complete loss of humanity.

In fact, most videos on the hard drives are extremely sensitive and extremely inhumane, with extremely cruel pictures that cannot be broadcasted, so they will be processed later...

BTW: For those with a clue - seems this leaker is essentially asking for help with an internal overthrow of the CCP. Makes sense that 95%+ of the indigenous population would not be a fan of CCP. Imma guess Trump will gladly assist once he gets to the other side of the election. If Joe-mentia does, they we are only slightly less fooked than they are.

HedonistForever · 10-29-2020, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sportfisherman

I did not watch the interview.

As I suspected but thanks for your honesty. You are afraid of the evidence, don't care if Biden is as or more corrupt than Trump. So why lecture the people voting for Trump since you don't exactly stand on the moral high ground?

And FYI, an attempt at humor/ ridicule, is not a substitute for intelligent debate.

Speaking of the economy, the 3rd quarter numbers are out. After the worst 2nd quarter in history, we saw the best 3rd quarter at 33.1% growth while still in a pandemic. You better hope people are stupid enough to blame Trump for not having the solution that Governors controled on Covid and not go with the man who can best deliver a fast recovering economy and FYI, the scientist, not Trump are saying that an emergency use vaccine could be ready by Xmas. I'd call that soon and I'd call that "turning the corner" on Covid, not "turned the corner", not a cure but definitely "turning the corner" with a ways to go. That is my opinion, you are welcome to yours.

Munchmasterman · 10-29-2020, 08:16 PM

It is an interview. He isn't under oath. He isn't being cross examined.

What it isn't is evidence.
Why did the shop owner not give the drive to law enforcement? The chain of evidence has been broken on the drive. They've shown an image of an email. Not the email itself.

Speaking of the economy, read the following article. One quarter does not a year make. The economy has a long way to go.

When Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth data for the third quarter of 2020 is released on October 29, it will almost certainly break records. Many analysts project growth over 30 percent at an annual rate – roughly twice as high as any quarterly growth rate since World War II.

Jay Shambaugh
Nonresident Senior Fellow - Economic Studies
@JayCShambaugh
Yet despite this phenomenal-sounding growth, the economy will still be in a considerable hole, is actually slowing down, and presents a strong case for concern. Some basic math and data can help pierce through the mirage.

One reason 30 percent growth doesn’t mean the economy is healed stems from how percentage changes work when going down and then up. If you own a stock priced at $100 and it drops 30 percent, it is now worth $70. If it gains back 30 percent, it is then worth $91 (the gain is just $21 because 30 percent of 70 is 21). In the same manner, the large drop in output in the second quarter followed by similar sized increases in the third quarter will still leave a large hole. Even if GDP growth is 30 percent at an annual rate in the third quarter, output will still be more than 4 percent below its level at the end of 2019, which is more than the farthest the economy ever was from its prior peak in the Great Recession.

In addition, in the United States, we typically report growth numbers at an annualized rate. This way of reporting tells you how much the economy would grow or shrink if it kept up that pace for a full year. When there are huge swings up or down (like now) that can be a bit misleading. It made the drop in the second quarter seem larger than it was, and now makes the rebound seem larger as well.

It is also important to recognize that rapid third quarter growth does not mean the economy has strong momentum now. Third quarter growth measures the average level of output in July through September compared to the average in April through June. The very low level of output in April and May set a low baseline, meaning almost any bounce back at all would generate a huge growth rate for the third quarter.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...in-a-big-hole/

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Originally Posted by HedonistForever

As I suspected but thanks for your honesty. You are afraid of the evidence, don't care if Biden is as or more corrupt than Trump. So why lecture the people voting for Trump since you don't exactly stand on the moral high ground?

And FYI, an attempt at humor/ ridicule, is not a substitute for intelligent debate.

Speaking of the economy, the 3rd quarter numbers are out. After the worst 2nd quarter in history, we saw the best 3rd quarter at 33.1% growth while still in a pandemic. You better hope people are stupid enough to blame Trump for not having the solution that Governors controled on Covid and not go with the man who can best deliver a fast recovering economy and FYI, the scientist, not Trump are saying that an emergency use vaccine could be ready by Xmas Do you have a link for this?. I'd call that soon and I'd call that "turning the corner" on Covid, not "turned the corner", not a cure but definitely "turning the corner" with a ways to go. That is my opinion, you are welcome to yours.

matchingmole · 10-29-2020, 09:36 PM

Hunter Biden 'dossier' pushed by right-wing conspiracy theorists, including Trump's close associates, seems to be fake according to NBC. Martin Aspen who "authored" the report does not exist.

Why_Yes_I_Do · 10-30-2020, 07:34 AM

And now the FBI wants to have a 2nd chitty-chat with Mr Bobulinski. Maybe they just liked his coffee-chat game or something. Doubt it has much to do with adding more corroboration upon more corroboration from the previous 4 years of investigating Hunter's business partners and putting them in prison. But I could be wrong. Wonder where Hunter is these day. Come to think of it, where is Chris Heinz and Paul Pelosi Jr.? these days.

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Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Yes there is, it is in the Bobulinski interview I posted in the thread "SURREAL". Watch it if you want to see and hear many more than one single moment.

But you are right, albeit your number is wrong, 99% of the media will not cover this story. The FBI and DOJ now have all this evidence and whether they will do anything with it is in doubt.

LexusLover · 10-30-2020, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

[COLOR="Blue"]It is an interview. He isn't under oath. He isn't being cross examined.

Neither was Bitten when he was asked about what he knew of Hunter's bribery and extortion ... and said he knew nothing about it.

Now here's a relevant question:

Who would want someone to be President who didn't know his son was extorting money from foreign governments?

Answer: The same person who would vote for someone for President who didn't know her spouse was getting blow jobs in the same house with her .... downstairs and down the hall!

Would that be YOU, MUNCHIE?

HedonistForever · 10-30-2020, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

It is an interview. He isn't under oath. He isn't being cross examined.

You don't have to be under oath when you talk to the FBI. Lying to the FBI is a crime, period. You seem to be suggesting that the FBI doesn't cross examine/ ask questions of people who bring them evidence. Is that your position?

What it isn't is evidence.

You seem to be making a distinction with out a difference. Information presented to the FBI is evidence. Whether it is good or bad ( material to a case ) is another thing. Information does not have to be presented in a court of law to be considered evidence. When you make a statement as a third party with documents and phones, that is presenting evidence. Then the FBI will decide whether that evidence is useful or not in bringing or not bringing a case.

Why did the shop owner not give the drive to law enforcement?

He did, he also gave it to Guiliani. Why? Anybodies guess but the FBI has the laptop, they have said so.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/lawyer-delaware-shop-owner-fbi-initially-turned-down

Lawyer for Delaware shop owner: FBI initially turned down purported Hunter Biden laptop

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The family of the Delaware shop owner who says he came into possession of a laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden first tried to turn over the computer to the FBI in summer 2019 but was rebuffed, only to have agents return months later during President Trump's impeachment proceedings, his lawyer said Thursday night.

In a lengthy statement to Just the News, attorney Brian Della Rocca provided a detailed timeline of the actions his client, John Paul Mac Isaac, says he took in trying to get authorities to investigate the laptop.

The lawyer also decried public figures on both sides of the aisle for politicizing the episode and for attacking the Delaware computer repairman without having the facts.

Something you seem to have done in your post.

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"Around mid-July of 2019, news of Hunter Biden's business dealings with the Ukraine were coming more into focus and John Paul started to get uncomfortable with the information he had seen. He was unsure if the hard drive contained information pertinent to the legal investigation.
At that point, he reached out to his father, a retired Colonel in the U.S. Air Force, for advice about what he should do. They both decided that going to the FBI and handing over the Mac and the drive was their best course of action. Soon thereafter, John Paul's father took a copy of the hard drive to an FBI field office in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The FBI turned John Paul's father away."

"In mid-October of 2019, an FBI Agent reached out to Colonel Mac Isaac and wanted to discuss the Mac and drive. At that point, Colonel Mac Isaac passed along John Paul's contact information. The FBI then reached out to John Paul and met him at his house to discuss John Paul's concerns. On December 9, 2019, the FBI served a Subpoena on John Paul for the computer, the hard drive, and all related paperwork. He willingly gave it to the FBI and was happy to see it go."

"Out of an abundance of caution, John Paul made a copy of the drive in case he was ever thrown under the bus as a result of what he knew. As John Paul watched the impeachment trial, he wondered why there was no reference to the information he had provided to the FBI. As a result, starting in February of 2020 and until July of 2020, John Paul reached out to several members of Congress to notify them of what he had in his possession. His requests fell on deaf ears.

Out of frustration, in the beginning of September, John Paul reached out to someone he thought would be able to provide the information directly to the President. That person was Rudy Giuliani. A day after John Paul reached out to Giuliani's office, Robert Costello, Rudy Giuliani's lawyer, contacted John Paul to discuss the information and John Paul's concerns.

On September 24, 2020, John Paul then submitted information about the drive to Senator Ron Johnson through the whistleblower link on Senator Johnson's website. After that submission and while Giuliani's office was still trying to verify the information, Senator Johnson released the Senate report on the Biden business dealings."

What Mac Isaac claims to know for certain:
1. "We know it is Hunter Biden's laptop because we have his signature on the Repair Authorization and Hunter Biden's attorney has reached out to John Paul about the computer."

2. "Hunter Biden never returned to retrieve the information rendering it abandoned property or, in other words, junk. We know that once you throw something into the trash, you relinquish your privacy rights to it, which is why so many investigations include a search of a person's trash."

3. "The FBI confiscated the computer and the external hard drive and left John Paul with a receipt."

4. "The information on the drive was leaked by someone prior to the New York Post exposé. John Paul has not released any information as he is cooperating with law enforcement and to do so could hurt the investigation."

And that as Paul Harvey use to say "is the rest of the story" that anybody interesting in finding out the rest of the story, could have but as SF has demonstrated, some people do not want to hear anything beyond what they want to hear and believe.
I'm sure there is a name for persons who are unwilling to take in any information that does not comport with their pre-concieved notions. I think they call it "close minded".

The chain of evidence has been broken on the drive.

I think I'll leave that up to the FBI and possible court of law to decide if you don't mind.

They've shown an image of an email. Not the email itself.

Which the FBI has.

Speaking of the economy, read the following article. One quarter does not a year make. The economy has a long way to go.

It does but it is heading in the right direction. To hear Biden and Pelosi tell it, it is "not enough".

oeb11 · 10-30-2020, 10:21 AM

Classic DPST denial, delusion and coverup of their own corruption!
Pelosi, biden and DPST will hand the country to Chairman Xi to control due to Biden's corruption - he is bought by the CCP!,