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01-07-2016, 03:28 PM
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Explain to us again how high oil prices were directly attributable to the Iraq War, you retarded simpleton. Another intelligent fagboy comment!
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Jesus H Christ...if you do not understand supply and demand by now. Me explaining it to you will not help at this late date.
I guess had we went to war with Iran in the last 6 months you'd predict the price of oil would not be effected.
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01-07-2016, 03:43 PM
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call it a truce on childish personal attacks, and we can debate as the adults we are supposed to be.
What say you?
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OK but only if I can still call you SUCKCLOWN... I like the sound of your name too much.
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01-07-2016, 03:50 PM
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OK but only if I can still call you SUCKCLOWN... I like the sound of your name too much.
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hahaha, no. . . that would be violating the terms of the cease fire.
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01-07-2016, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
Jesus H Christ...if you do not understand supply and demand by now. Me explaining it to you will not help at this late date.
I guess had we went (sic) to war with Iran in the last 6 months you'd predict the price of oil would not be effected.
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You're a fool... go back and read my post #67 and then give me your analysis based on "supply and demand" since you pretend to understand it.
The impact of the Iraq War on oil prices was the opposite of what you claimed. It resulted in increased supplies from the country. That means lower prices, holding other factors constant. Think before you post.
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01-07-2016, 04:10 PM
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the effects of the Iraq war has almost certainly been a net negative on oil prices. as horrible as Saddam was to his people, he kept the oil flowing for the most part. in the chaos of the war oil was looted and wells were set on fire. Markets don't like instability and the war brought instability.
Oil prices have dropped a lot recently because the Saudis have increased oil production for whatever reason. Probably in an effort to fuck with Iran.
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01-07-2016, 04:38 PM
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as horrible as Saddam was to his people, he kept the oil flowing for the most part.
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No he didn't. In the years prior to the 2003 invasion, Saddam's ability to export oil was crimped by UN sanctions imposed because he kept thumbing his nose at weapons inspections, etc. The sanctions were only partly eased in 2006 under the UN Oil for Food Program, allowing Iraqi output to recover until that program was tainted by corruption, kickbacks and scandal.
Go back to my post #67. In 2003 when the war started, Iraq produced 1.3 million bpd. Production rose steadily and a decade later it reached 3.0 million bpd. Those are FACTS. More Iraqi oil reached the market once Saddam was ousted.
http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.asp...aph=production
Meanwhile, during the same period (2003-2013) world oil consumption increased from 80 million bpd to 90 million bpd. So what happened in Iraq was overwhelmed by other supply/demand factors that - on balance - drove global oil prices higher. Only a simple-minded idiot, blinded by partisan hatred and eager to blame Bush for everything, would claim, as your libtarded butt buddy WTFagboy did, that high oil prices were "directly attributed to the Iraq War".
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01-07-2016, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
No he didn't. In the years prior to the 2003 invasion, Saddam's ability to export oil was crimped by UN sanctions imposed because he kept thumbing his nose at weapons inspections, etc. The sanctions were only partly eased in 2006 under the UN Oil for Food Program, allowing Iraqi output to recover until that program was tainted by corruption, kickbacks and scandal.
Go back to my post #67. Iraq produced 1.3 million bpd in 2003 when the war started. Production rose steadily and reached 3.0 million bpd a decade later. Those are FACTS. More Iraqi oil reached the market once Saddam was ousted.
http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.asp...aph=production
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So the UN sanctions in large part worked, and Iraq didn't have the WMD's we were made to fear so much. . . which begs the question, why go to war?
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01-07-2016, 05:04 PM
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So the UN sanctions in large part worked, and Iraq didn't have the WMD's we were made to fear so much. . . which begs the question, why go to war?
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You're deflecting to a topic that has been hashed and re-hashed here. Tell fagboy we're still waiting for his supply and demand analysis.
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01-07-2016, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by southtown4488
So the UN sanctions in large part worked, and Iraq didn't have the WMD's we were made to fear so much. . . which begs the question, why go to war?
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Saddam provoked a response when he invaded Kuwait, suck-clown.
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01-07-2016, 05:12 PM
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You're deflecting to a topic that has been hashed and re-hashed here. Tell fagboy we're still waiting for his supply and demand analysis.
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But isn't the big picture the Iraq War. . . whether or not the war caused oil prices to rise or fall somewhat is really a side issue for me. If u have a valid point about post war oil production, then so be it. The fact that tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people killed and died in a war largely based on lies is far more important to me.
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01-07-2016, 05:39 PM
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But isn't the big picture the Iraq War. . . whether or not the war caused oil prices to rise or fall somewhat is really a side issue for me. If u have a valid point about post war oil production, then so be it. The fact that tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people killed and died in a war largely based on lies is far more important to me.
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And the doctor in the delivery room lied to your momma when he told her you were healthy and sound in mind and body, suck-clown.
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01-07-2016, 05:47 PM
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you don't want to give Ronald Reagan any credit for winning the Cold War.
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I gave Reagan credit. Read below. I've always given him credit for cutting and running
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I gave Reagan credit for cutting and running after Beirut.
He could have countered and spent trillions in region like Bush. He did not...very smart.
I give him credit for raising taxes on SS to cut our debt. It looks like another President will have to do the same in the future as no one seems willing to cut/pay for our current rate of spending towards the military.
Hell i give him credit for dealing with the Iranians and sell them arms!
I will deal with the rest of your distortions whether i get to my computer.
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Originally Posted by lustylad
You spout your stupid and simplistic lies because you want to blame Bush for everything that goes wrong and you stupidly refuse to let facts stand in your way. The Iraq War INCREASED global oil supplies, thereby EASING upward pressure on prices, not vice versa.
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We did not have to go to war with Iraq to increase their global output! Fuck man....we could have just lifted the sanctions....like Obama did with Iran.
Now are you starting to see the point?
Probably not.
I don't have time to explain a very complex region but your neoconic liberal view of trying to nation build has backfired....
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01-07-2016, 05:52 PM
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And the doctor in the delivery room lied to your momma when he told her you were healthy and sound in mind and body, suck-clown.
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01-07-2016, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
I can out pick you in college football with one of my chimp nuts in your mouth are you one of those silly fucks who thinks nation building is a conservative endeavor?
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prove it. post in my football thread in the sandbox. i had one perfect post, predicted every game. you try that retard.
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01-07-2016, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
No he didn't. In the years prior to the 2003 invasion, Saddam's ability to export oil was crimped by UN sanctions imposed because he kept thumbing his nose at weapons inspections, etc. The sanctions were only partly eased in 2006 under the UN Oil for Food Program, allowing Iraqi output to recover until that program was tainted by corruption, kickbacks and scandal.
Go back to my post #67. In 2003 when the war started, Iraq produced 1.3 million bpd. Production rose steadily and a decade later it reached 3.0 million bpd. Those are FACTS. More Iraqi oil reached the market once Saddam was ousted.
http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.asp...aph=production
Meanwhile, during the same period (2003-2013) world oil consumption increased from 80 million bpd to 90 million bpd. So what happened in Iraq was overwhelmed by other supply/demand factors that - on balance - drove global oil prices higher. Only a simple-minded idiot, blinded by partisan hatred and eager to blame Bush for everything, would claim, as your libtarded butt buddy WTFagboy did, that high oil prices were "directly attributed to the Iraq War".
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" corruption, kickbacks and scandal. " So the Clinton's where over there advising them ?
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