Why is Trump President Anyway?????

[Austin Ellen]

What are you talking about?? My major concern is our veterans. I have personal experience in this - the V.A. is horrible... all I can do is shake my head at people like you
.. my goal is to make America great again.. and that starts with our veterans.

Originally Posted by FirePhoenix

Let her enjoy her moment. The shame,embarrassment, and disgust that Ellen and others will feel in time to come will hopefully put a spur under their asses to do the right thing in the end. You can't talk to a cult like attitude and behavior.

[FirePhoenix]

You do realize that the start of the veterans decline of benefits started with Reagan presidency. What does the V.A. have to to do with Trump? The issues with the V.A. has been passed down from presidency to presidency. Trump never has been or will be a vet and has very little respect for them or their needs. Do some fact checking.

[FirePhoenix]

I worked in my first V.A. hospital back in N.C., Winston Salem I believe in 2001. The conditions there were like none I had ever seen before- extremely horrid is an understatement to say the least. Basically take a bad nursing home, Xs by 100 and make it a hospital. Little staff, no current equipment, almost no supplies,ect. At the time I didn't understand politics and didn't about politics. So where have you been Ellen all this time? Me- I was growing up and learning more about what was going on.

[Austin Ellen]

Really, I mean really. I'm from Fort Hood/Killeen- the vets that I help love Trump. Where do you get your info???

Originally Posted by FirePhoenix

You do realize that the start of the veterans decline of benefits started with Reagan presidency. What does the V.A. have to to do with Trump? The issues with the V.A. has been passed down from presidency to presidency. Trump never has been or will be a vet and has very little respect for them or their needs. Do some fact checking.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Milly23

Trump won't nominate some one right away, but if he does what he said he would do, he will be naming one sooner rather than later. Ask Obama how controlling the White House works when it comes to SC nominations. If they block the nomination for 2 years and then win control of Congress in 2018, then Trump could lose the opportunity to get a nominee appointed. And since there's no rule on how many justices sit on the Court and Republicans just gave them cover by letting the seat be vacant for a period of time, they could let the fight drag on until they 2018 (get Congress) and then let it drag on until 2020. So there's some reasons to nuke it to prevent that. But when 2020 comes and the lost Congress, they would be in a position where they could bite them, especially with the ages of Republican justices and Ginsburg likely retiring if Democrats win in 2020.

Scalia died less than a year ago. We were in the middle of a Presidential election year. Republicans simply followed the “Biden Rule” when they delayed consideration of Obama's replacement nominee (Merrick Garland) until after the election. They acted pursuant to a dictum articulated and espoused by Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid - no votes on SCOTUS nominees in a Presidential election year. This hardly gives anyone “cover” to delay a vote on a SCOTUS nominee that a President makes during his FIRST year in office. Get real, ok? If the Democrats even tried that, they would be doing exactly what you admonish the Republicans NOT to do – setting a terrible new precedent that would boomerang against them later.

And you are missing my point on the filibuster. If Democrats were to gain control of the Senate in 2018, then it wouldn't matter whether or not Republicans nuked the filibuster since the Dems wouldn't need it. Bottom line - Republicans can't be “screwed” for nuking the filibuster (on SCOTUS nominees) until 2021 at the earliest, and then only if they lose the White House. Get it now? Again, the whole question is academic because Republicans aren't planning to do it anyway.

By the way, it is far more likely that Republicans will GAIN Senate seats than lose them in the 2018 midterms. Why? Because 23 out of the 33 Senate seats up for re-election are currently held by Democrats, with another 2 held by independents who caucus with the Dems.

[Milly23]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Scalia died less than a year ago. We were in the middle of a Presidential election year. Republicans simply followed the “Biden Rule” when they delayed consideration of Obama's replacement nominee (Merrick Garland) until after the election. They acted pursuant to a dictum articulated and espoused by Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid - no votes on SCOTUS nominees in a Presidential election year. This hardly gives anyone “cover” to delay a vote on a SCOTUS nominee that a President makes during his FIRST year in office. Get real, ok? If the Democrats even tried that, they would be doing exactly what you admonish the Republicans NOT to do – setting a terrible new precedent that would boomerang against them later.

And you are missing my point on the filibuster. If Democrats were to gain control of the Senate in 2018, then it wouldn't matter whether or not Republicans nuked the filibuster since the Dems wouldn't need it. Bottom line - Republicans can't be “screwed” for nuking the filibuster (on SCOTUS nominees) until 2021 at the earliest, and then only if they lose the White House. Get it now? Again, the whole question is academic because Republicans aren't planning to do it anyway.

By the way, it is far more likely that Republicans will GAIN Senate seats than lose them in the 2018 midterms. Why? Because 23 out of the 33 Senate seats up for re-election are currently held by Democrats, with another 2 held by independents who caucus with the Dems.

Whoa whoa whoa. So you don't think it will happen? Then why did you initial respond to me telling me what's good for the goose is good for the gander? When in the comment you responded to, I said I don't think they will do it.
Also I love how almost every one of your responses has a get it now, you're confused, etc. Like you are teaching me something.

I know Scalia died less than a year ago but the Republicans preventing a hearing on the nominee gave us one of the longest periods with an empty seat on the Court. It also forced the Court to avoid taking certain cases in fear of a party 4-4 vote. So Republicans decided to take when Biden talking about a hypothetical vacancy said the President should not name a nominee until after the election, correct. But then they ignored his statement in the same speech where he pledged to consider a nominee if President consulted with Congress. So seems like they ignored a key part of the "Biden Rule". The whole considering the nominee part. A nominee that they were praising before since he's a moderate. But now they want to get back to doing things they are swore to do. Yeah what's good for the goose is good for the gander though so I'm all for blocking the nominations since it was ok to do it for 11 months. What's another 23 or so.

And I think you are missing the point. If the Democrats win the Senate in 2018, the Republicans want to be able to filibuster. The only way they don't have a need for it is if the Democrats gain a ridiculous amount of seats. They are at 48(including independents), the odds are more likely that after midterms, the Democrats are closer to 52-54. So they won't have the number of seats needed to stop it all together, unless the Republicans nuke the filibuster. Get it now? Again I ask, why are you talking about how it's academic and not going to happen with me when I said in my original post that it's not going to happen?

As for the seats up for grabs, 23 are Democratic seats yes. If you look at the seats up for the taking, the ones held by Democrats were mostly won with over 50% of the vote. While some of the Republicans were won with 49% of the vote. So yeah there is a good chance they win the Senate. Also I would say look at what happened this past election. You normally see the party of a president winning office for the first time getting a bump in Congress. But you didn't really get that this past election. Republicans lost 2 seats in the Senate and some in the House. So with 2018, the Democrats are in a better position than they should be to take control of Congress. You could see a Presidential Referendum in the midterms in 2018. Similar to what happened with the Tea Party when they help the Republicans take Congress. And judging from the rallies this weekend, there is a base to start that push for the midterms.

[FirePhoenix]

Ellen, it's called years of working in the V.A. hospitals. So again where have you been? The decline of V.A. befits started in the Reagan presidency. If you have been worried about the vets then you would have been all this time working for their rights,benefits, healthcare,ect. In all of yours posts I see none of those issues being raised. To me it shows you don't know what your talking about other than being a parrot of regurgitated tag lines.

[Austin Ellen]

Yes, but it got worse under Obama. I was up at the Veteran's Benefits Office in Waco a couple of weeks ago - I can only state what I see and hear. And what I heard and saw at the V.A. office was excitement that we have a President - finally-who cares for them and will help them.
When I help veteran's at Fort Hood - the same thing - lots of excitement for President Trump. You are not making any sense here.

Originally Posted by FirePhoenix

Ellen, it's called years of working in the V.A. hospitals. So again where have you been? The decline of V.A. befits started in the Reagan presidency. If you have been worried about the vets then you would have been all this time working for their rights,benefits, healthcare,ect. In all of yours posts I see none of those issues being raised. To me it shows you don't know what your talking about other than being a parrot of regurgitated tag lines.

[Milly23]

Originally Posted by FirePhoenix

Ellen, it's called years of working in the V.A. hospitals. So again where have you been? The decline of V.A. befits started in the Reagan presidency. If you have been worried about the vets then you would have been all this time working for their rights,benefits, healthcare,ect. In all of yours posts I see none of those issues being raised. To me it shows you don't know what your talking about other than being a parrot of regurgitated tag lines.

FirePhoenix I think you should just give it up. For a lot of Trump fans, it's not about facts or figures. It's about the feeling he gives them. I mean because she's been to one base and one office, she knows that every single person in the military feels good about Trump and trust he will fix things. Your experience at another base isn't true. The idea that yeah things were about a 6 before but now they are an 8 under Obama is ridiculous. They shouldn't have been bad in the first place and one president doesn't owns the mess. In 4 years if those thinks aren't fixed, will it all be on Trump? No because he didn't create the massive mess. But if people want to place blame on one president, then the new one will take the blame for not fixing it.

[FirePhoenix]

Ellen=Polly the Parrot. Enough said. BTW, it was originally a Republican idea of Obama Care and then they blocked every way to fix it. You blocked your own ideas and made the system worse because NO action could be taken. Have you even taken a look at the benefit plans of trumps business hiring since the 80s? Well you can't talk to a doorknob and I should know this lesson but apparently I needed to learn it again. Lesson learned.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Milly23

I mean because she's been to one base and one office, she knows that every single person in the military feels good about Trump and trust he will fix things. Your experience at another base isn't true.

No, not every single person, just an overwhelming majority. Exit polls show Trump won military veterans by a 2-to-1 margin.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ates/21603486/

[FirePhoenix]

Just about every person in the military will tell you that the way Obama handled military affairs was badly done. I have no argument with that because it's true. It's still no excuse to hire the Russian spokesmen.

[veedub63]

You are actually saying that the Republicans birthed the ACA and then refused to modify it accordingly in order to "fix it"?

I seriously believe you might have a penis lodged into your cerebral cortex causing massive interference with your ability to process thoughts. Either that or you are suffering a severe sperm overdose and exhibiting the symptoms. Reality is over here honey; on the RIGHT side of the room. Damn.

Originally Posted by FirePhoenix

Ellen=Polly the Parrot. Enough said. BTW, it was originally a Republican idea of Obama Care and then they blocked every way to fix it. You blocked your own ideas and made the system worse because NO action could be taken. Have you even taken a look at the benefit plans of trumps business hiring since the 80s? Well you can't talk to a doorknob and I should know this lesson but apparently I needed to learn it again. Lesson learned.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by FirePhoenix

BTW, it was originally a Republican idea of Obama Care and then they blocked every way to fix it. You blocked your own ideas...

That's a baseless, tired old Democrat lie. If Obamacare was a "Republican idea", then why did Obama feel such a need to shut them out of the deliberative process in 2009-10? And why didn't a single Republican vote in favor of it?

Republicans had plenty of good ideas, such as allowing insurers to compete across state lines, capping medical malpractice awards, etc. Those ideas were not even considered, because Dems controlled both Houses of Congress at the time.

Only after Obamacare became an unpopular political albatross did the Dems start circulating their canard about it being a "Republican idea". They're too cowardly and dishonest to own it.

Originally Posted by veedub63

I seriously believe you might have a penis lodged into your cerebral cortex causing massive interference with your ability to process thoughts. Either that or you are suffering a severe sperm overdose and exhibiting the symptoms. Reality is over here honey...

[FirePhoenix]

Go back and do some real fact checking. It is a Republican idea. I'm neither a Republican or a Democrat. Both parties are useless and due to this election hopefully both will either change or will no longer be a political party.