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Old 08-29-2015, 12:26 AM   #76
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Criminals steal guns from law-abiding citizens...
That's one way. They also burglarize sporting good shops that sell guns. They obtain them in a number of ways that don't involve buying them over the counter.


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Old 08-29-2015, 01:01 AM   #77
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The thing different about this is it became a media event with his filming and posting live. I'm chalking this up to gay black privilege.

Get ready...soon we will see an attack by someone with a weaponized drone...maybe shooting an Ar15 take out folks and post it to twitter as it happens. Keep those domed stadiums closed.
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Old 08-29-2015, 01:06 AM   #78
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Lanza, the shitbird that killed 20 kids in Newtown got his assault rifle by stealing it from his mother who purchased it legally and killed her with it. First of all, assault rifles should only be in the hands of the military an law enforcement. Second, his mother should have gone through training before being allowed to own any gun.
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Old 08-29-2015, 02:34 AM   #79
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there is no solution to prevent ALL murders, there are plenty of things we can do to reduce them. Its like saying we cant prevent all traffic deaths so why should we enforce seat belt laws. its not a zero-sum game.
Aren't you making my point? This clown in Virginia should never have passed a background check. What the hell went wrong with the system? Still, the vast majority of gun violence is committed by people who have not obtained their guns through legal channels. Why punish the good guys for what bad guys do? This guy was going to kill. It didn't matter how or who. I'll agree he should never have gotten a gun. If the background check didn't flag him, then we need to improve the background check. If he slipped through, those responsible should be prosecuted for their error. But this guy was going to kill.


Also, I think gun owners should be held responsible for keeping their guns secured. If someone steals a gun not properly secured, I think the owner should be charged as an accessory to any crime committed with that gun. If you leave a gun out and a kid finds it and injures or kills another, you are guilty of manslaughter.


I've never owned a gun. I enjoy target and skeet shooting, but I have never had a gun in my house. But I totally support responsible gun ownership and the Second Amendment. But gun owners need to police their ranks.


The problem is not people having guns. The problem is irresponsible, or crazy, or criminals having guns. I know people I'd trust with a nuclear weapon, and I know people I wouldn't trust with a nail clipper. I believe you have an absolute right to open or concealed carry, but not if you are irresponsible, crazy, or criminal.
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Old 08-29-2015, 04:50 PM   #80
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They have his gun now died in '08.
who died in 08 Heston or the gun?
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Old 08-29-2015, 04:54 PM   #81
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Who died in 08 Heston or the gun?
Only a hillbilly would have to ask that question.
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Old 08-29-2015, 05:05 PM   #82
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Aren't you making my point? This clown in Virginia should never have passed a background check. What the hell went wrong with the system? Still, the vast majority of gun violence is committed by people who have not obtained their guns through legal channels. Why punish the good guys for what bad guys do? This guy was going to kill. It didn't matter how or who. I'll agree he should never have gotten a gun. If the background check didn't flag him, then we need to improve the background check. If he slipped through, those responsible should be prosecuted for their error. But this guy was going to kill.


Also, I think gun owners should be held responsible for keeping their guns secured. If someone steals a gun not properly secured, I think the owner should be charged as an accessory to any crime committed with that gun. If you leave a gun out and a kid finds it and injures or kills another, you are guilty of manslaughter.


I've never owned a gun. I enjoy target and skeet shooting, but I have never had a gun in my house. But I totally support responsible gun ownership and the Second Amendment. But gun owners need to police their ranks.


The problem is not people having guns. The problem is irresponsible, or crazy, or criminals having guns. I know people I'd trust with a nuclear weapon, and I know people I wouldn't trust with a nail clipper. I believe you have an absolute right to open or concealed carry, but not if you are irresponsible, crazy, or criminal.

I don't disagree with most of what you said but holding gun owners responsible for the actions of someone that steals your gun is ridiculous. I don't have kids in my home. Both myself and my wife are CHL carriers. I leave my pistol on the counter many times. If not there it is in the night stand. I have others that are in a safe. The thing is my home is a secure environment. If I have children in my home the guns are put up so that they cannot access them. All that said if someone breaks into my home and steals a gun then they alone are the ones that should be punished for not only the crime of breaking into and stealing from me but for any other crimes they commit.
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Old 08-29-2015, 05:11 PM   #83
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Lanza, the shitbird that killed 20 kids in Newtown got his assault rifle by stealing it from his mother who purchased it legally and killed her with it. First of all, assault rifles should only be in the hands of the military an law enforcement. Second, his mother should have gone through training before being allowed to own any gun.

What is it about an AR or AK that scares the shit out of liberals? It's a fucking gun. It's not a fully automatic machine gun. Hell I have pistols that hold 15 bullets. You people need to get over this "assault gun" phobia.
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Old 08-29-2015, 05:25 PM   #84
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What is it about an AR or AK that scares the shit out of liberals? It's a fucking gun. It's not a fully automatic machine gun. Hell I have pistols that hold 15 bullets. You people need to get over this "assault gun" phobia.
I ain't scared of either and would be willing to bet that I know more about both than you.

But, if you are trying to equate the lethality of an AR15 or an AK with your Glock or Beretta, it's clear you don't know shit.

1. Standard AK and AR mag holds 30 rounds.
2. AK is .30 caliber. AR is .223/5.56mm. These rounds compared to 9mm, .40SW or .45ACP hit harder, are more accurate, have much much more range and tear a much larger hole through a human being.
3. Semi-auto fire from any assault rifle is almost always more effective than full-auto in the hands of somebody who knows what they are doing. It is more accurate. Full auto fire from an M4 or AK is inaccurate after the first aimed round or two.
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Old 08-29-2015, 09:07 PM   #85
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Only a hillbilly would have to ask that question.
only a 3rd grader would post it
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Aren't you making my point? This clown in Virginia should never have passed a background check. What the hell went wrong with the system? Still, the vast majority of gun violence is committed by people who have not obtained their guns through legal channels. Why punish the good guys for what bad guys do? This guy was going to kill. It didn't matter how or who. I'll agree he should never have gotten a gun. If the background check didn't flag him, then we need to improve the background check. If he slipped through, those responsible should be prosecuted for their error. But this guy was going to kill.


Also, I think gun owners should be held responsible for keeping their guns secured. If someone steals a gun not properly secured, I think the owner should be charged as an accessory to any crime committed with that gun. If you leave a gun out and a kid finds it and injures or kills another, you are guilty of manslaughter.


I've never owned a gun. I enjoy target and skeet shooting, but I have never had a gun in my house. But I totally support responsible gun ownership and the Second Amendment. But gun owners need to police their ranks.


The problem is not people having guns. The problem is irresponsible, or crazy, or criminals having guns. I know people I'd trust with a nuclear weapon, and I know people I wouldn't trust with a nail clipper. I believe you have an absolute right to open or concealed carry, but not if you are irresponsible, crazy, or criminal.
Where is your data to support the highlighted portion?
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What is it about an AR or AK that scares the shit out of liberals? It's a fucking gun. It's not a fully automatic machine gun. Hell I have pistols that hold 15 bullets. You people need to get over this "assault gun" phobia.
What is it about gun control that scares the shit out of conservatives? No one is scared, dumbass. We simply feel that not enough is being done to curb the gun violence in this country. Do you think we are doing enough? What you and other conservatives are basically saying is that you don't give a shit about people's lives because upholding the second amendment is more important to you. And you will probably feel that way right up until it happens to someone you care about, as evidenced by the father of one of the Virgina victims. He is now vowing to fight for stricter gun laws. Everything is different once it is personal. It's easy for you to sit on here and offer platitudes, but it's an entirely different game when you are personally affected by the choices of others.
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States with stricter gun control laws have fewer deaths from gun-related violence. This runs contrary to the old tagline 'guns don't kill people' bullshit.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...-deaths/69354/
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Old 08-29-2015, 09:32 PM   #89
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What is it about gun control that scares the shit out of conservatives? No one is scared, dumbass. We simply feel that not enough is being done to curb the gun violence in this country. Do you think we are doing enough? What you and other conservatives are basically saying is that you don't give a shit about people's lives because upholding the second amendment is more important to you. And you will probably feel that way right up until it happens to someone you care about, as evidenced by the father of one of the Virgina victims. He is now vowing to fight for stricter gun laws. Everything is different once it is personal. It's easy for you to sit on here and offer platitudes, but it's an entirely different game when you are personally affected by the choices of others.
You're the faggoty-assed, scaredy-cat jackass that's afraid of the status quo and whining for change and greater government intrusion, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. And there's the husband of one of the victims in Virginia who is convinced that Flanagan would of used a knife or machete if he didn't have a gun, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

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Mr. Gardner offered a different view, saying that Mr. Flanagan had been fixated on harming his former colleagues.

Whether it was a gun or machete or ax, it doesn’t make any difference,” Mr. Gardner said. “He was determined and he was crazy. He was going to kill her, and he waited until he was on air to do it that way. Place the blame on the individual and not with the tool he used.” (NYT)
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