Why would a gent want to keep his P411 and Eccie accounts separate?

[daveindallas]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

<<<< wonders if "skull palming sessions" would be considered legal.

Legal scmeagle

If you will palm my skull while between your creamy thighs, who's going to care and call the fuzz?

[Guest060214]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

I told you the sun was coming up tomorrow.

I knew the *noogie* would work! It always warms things up and gets the gears going again. You're welcome.

[Guest092216]

I thought u didn't like the n word?

[TexasDave555]

Could be any number of reasons, from shady to wise self-preservation. I see nothing wrong with it as I can see its benefits in keeping things separate.

For example, someone who only posts or uses this place for recon, then books via P411 with its beneficial screening options.

A married guy cheating on his wife uses a burner... same concept applies to an eccie handle. You don't think of that as deceitful or shady?

In those cases the guy may or may not offer up that information once a business relationship has started. That's his choice really.

Originally Posted by Reese Foster

I would assume that anyone who keeps the two separate might have something to hide. Maybe questionable posting history or on board persona.

Hey! I've toned it down a bit BTW... I have several loads of clothes and a pile of dishes ready for you.

[Guest060214]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

I thought u didn't like the n word?

well, it almost always works. Maybe you didn't do it correctly the first time. Get a friend to help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B0BQA_VZi0

[Guest092216]

Originally Posted by TexasDave555

Could be any number of reasons, from shady to wise self-preservation. I see nothing wrong with it as I can see its benefits in keeping things separate.

For example, someone who only posts or uses this place for recon, then books via P411 with its beneficial screening options.

A married guy cheating on his wife uses a burner... same concept applies to an eccie handle. You don't think of that as deceitful or shady?

In those cases the guy may or may not offer up that information once a business relationship has started. That's his choice really.

I can see the need for outside discretion as far as not posting reviews or not posting at all ("but baby, I was just looking"). Linking the two accounts to others who are already in the hobby is what I can't see a problem with. Why not have full disclosure for the safety of everyone in the community?

From within the hobby, discrection is a matter of ettiquette. Just because I may know that you fucked providers A, B & C last month doesn't mean I need to know anything about yalls session - just that it took place without incident.

I'm with Jules on feeling violated. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen LickHer, but the fact that he is trying to flaunt the notion that he was able to see me against my wishes is disturbing. If I didn't know better that would have been VERY unsettling to read.

I think everyone can agree that NO MEANS NO. If a lady has denied seeing someone from ECCIE for any reason, she may feel very mislead - and yes violated - if he got to see her on the sly as "another person". Its like the difference between chosing to see someone in a normal state of mind vs agreeing to see someone in an "altered" state of mind.

There really is something wrong with that. And those who can't understand why it's wrong are the same people who have no respect for the word "No!". If a lady says no to someone on here it should carry over to any other account they have control of.

[Guest060214]

If it is a concern, here is your solution. Only book appointments from an eccie PM and throw P411 out. Problem solved, nobody feels "violated".

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

I can see the need for outside discretion as far as not posting reviews or not posting at all ("but baby, I was just looking"). Linking the two accounts to others who are already in the hobby is what I can't see a problem with. Why not have full disclosure for the safety of everyone in the community?

From within the hobby, discrection is a matter of ettiquette. Just because I may know that you fucked providers A, B & C last month doesn't mean I need to know anything about yalls session - just that it took place without incident.

I'm with Jules on feeling violated. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen LickHer, but the fact that he is trying to flaunt the notion that he was able to see me against my wishes is disturbing. If I didn't know better that would have been VERY unsettling to read.

I think everyone can agree that NO MEANS NO. If a lady has denied seeing someone from ECCIE for any reason, she may feel very mislead - and yes violated - if he got to see her on the sly as "another person". Its like the difference between chosing to see someone in a normal state of mind vs agreeing to see someone in an "altered" state of mind.

There really is something wrong with that. And those who can't understand why it's wrong are the same people who have no respect for the word "No!". If a lady says no to someone on here it should carry over to any other account they have control of.

[Guest092216]

Originally Posted by Jarvis

If it is a concern, here is your solution. Only book appointments from an eccie PM and throw P411 out. Problem solved, nobody feels "violated".

Or vice versa. Which is certainly an option at this point. I'd feel much safer only booking through p411 if I had to choose.

Fact is they serve two different purposes for screening and selection. Trying to circumvent their combined result is deceitful. If a lady was registered here as one provider who offered shitty service, bad hotels, fake pics, upcharging etc then had an alter ego on p411 who gave good service would the guys not find that deceitful? Or how about if u booked a provider on here then a while later booked a lady on p411 and they turned out to be the same person. How would that go over???

[Guest060214]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

Or vice versa. Which is certainly an option at this point. I'd feel much safer only booking through p411 if I had to choose.

But that P411 appointment you are booking may be LickHer.

[johnnylongcaulking]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

I can see the need for outside discretion as far as not posting reviews or not posting at all ("but baby, I was just looking"). Linking the two accounts to others who are already in the hobby is what I can't see a problem with. Why not have full disclosure for the safety of everyone in the community? Linking the two profiles will add zero safety for the client. It MIGHT open a few doors with some providers OR it might save him from drama from a provider who "get butt-hurt" when he visits a provider she doesn't like. This has happened in the past and is searchable on these forums. I'm not going to dredge up old crap in public.

Additionally, when you link accounts you expose yourself a bit more to potential RL discovery. It's the nature of cyber security.

From within the hobby, discrection is a matter of ettiquette. Just because I may know that you fucked providers A, B & C last month doesn't mean I need to know anything about yalls session - just that it took place without incident. Glad you aren't involved in drama. It's one of the reasons so many people here actually like you. Unfortunately for you and many other class acts, a few nutjobs have ruined it for you.

I'm with Jules on feeling violated. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen LickHer, but the fact that he is trying to flaunt the notion that he was able to see me against my wishes is disturbing. If I didn't know better that would have been VERY unsettling to read. If he did see you and the session went well then who gives a damn? If he did see you and the session didn't go well, you probably did not repeat the session and we arrive at the who gives a damn. I'm sure you've seen clients in the past without P411 accounts. Many of them were probably good experiences, some of them might have been bad experiences which drove you to increase your screening requirements. Good on you. Be safe.

I think everyone can agree that NO MEANS NO. If a lady has denied seeing someone from ECCIE for any reason, she may feel very mislead - and yes violated - if he got to see her on the sly as "another person". Its like the difference between chosing to see someone in a normal state of mind vs agreeing to see someone in an "altered" state of mind. I'm sorry you feel this way but the reality of the situation is that Eccie and P411 while loosely associated are not partner entities. It's the reality of the market you choose to engage in. Different people will go to different lengths to ensure their RL identities are not on the public hobby radar. Personally, if I hobbied, I would respect a provider's screening requirements. If she said no to my eccie handle, I would not attempt to schedule with my P411 handle (if I had one). But that's just me. Thin veneer of chivalry...let's face it, real chivalry doesn't engage in flesh-peddling.

There really is something wrong with that. And those who can't understand why it's wrong are the same people who have no respect for the word "No!". If a lady says no to someone on here it should carry over to any other account they have control of.

If I offended you by my post then accept my apologies as it was not my intent.

[DarthDVader]

Its very well known that some guys separate their eccie handles from p411 because if they were linked together, no girl in her sound mind would see him ...
Some of the posts of such characters are entertaining? But disturbing ... I wouldnt see as well a lady that he has reviewed ... Its maybe me ... there are some that want to die early I guess ...
I posted private a quote of someone aknowledging the "enlightning" fact why he keeps separate his P411 and Eccie handle ...
I bet Gina wouldn't appreciate such behavior ...

PS Im pretty sure he is not the only one ...

[TexasDave555]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

I can see the need for outside discretion as far as not posting reviews or not posting at all ("but baby, I was just looking"). Linking the two accounts to others who are already in the hobby is what I can't see a problem with. Why not have full disclosure for the safety of everyone in the community?

From within the hobby, discrection is a matter of ettiquette. Just because I may know that you fucked providers A, B & C last month doesn't mean I need to know anything about yalls session - just that it took place without incident.

I'm with Jules on feeling violated. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen LickHer, but the fact that he is trying to flaunt the notion that he was able to see me against my wishes is disturbing. If I didn't know better that would have been VERY unsettling to read.

I think everyone can agree that NO MEANS NO. If a lady has denied seeing someone from ECCIE for any reason, she may feel very mislead - and yes violated - if he got to see her on the sly as "another person". Its like the difference between chosing to see someone in a normal state of mind vs agreeing to see someone in an "altered" state of mind.

There really is something wrong with that. And those who can't understand why it's wrong are the same people who have no respect for the word "No!". If a lady says no to someone on here it should carry over to any other account they have control of.

You are assuming the worst... and that an appt was denied here. You not read the part where I said posting and recon and P411 for setting up of appoints?

Seriously.. I get the deceit thing.... however the question was posed as is there a viable reason someone would do this? My response was to that question. There are viable and real-life reasons why someone would choose to do it. You'll notice I did not mention anything about dismissing the way it could be abused for those are valid concerns too. Ultimately the whole thing comes down to why they would do it and how they would or do use it. But putting a blanket negative light on it from the get go automatically dismisses the positive reasons why someone would choose to do it.

[Guest092216]

@ jarvis he said he doesn't have a p411. I think maybe he used to but no longer does if he is who I think. In that case I know for a fact I have not seen him.

@jlc I am not offended. You bring up some good points. As far as "flesh-peddling" goes, if we dismiss the need to respect boundaries bc of the industry we are in then it becomes a slippery slope of what is or is not acceptable. And I can understand wanting to avoid drama from territorial crazies but why not just use that as an opportunity to weed out the halfwits who can't seem to grasp the fact that variety is driving force behind this industry.

[Guest092216]

Originally Posted by TexasDave555

You are assuming the worst... and that an appt was denied here. You not read the part where I said posting and recon and P411 for setting up of appoints?

Seriously.. I get the deceit thing.... however the question was posed as is there a viable reason someone would do this? My response was to that question. There are viable and real-life reasons why someone would choose to do it. You'll notice I did not mention anything about dismissing the way it could be abused for those are valid concerns too. Ultimately the whole thing comes down to why they would do it and how they would or do use it. But putting a blanket negative light on it from the get go automatically dismisses the positive reasons why someone would choose to do it.

Good point. I see what you are saying. However if you were to disclose it only to the ladies you booked appts with then how would that compromise your RW security? I'm not understanding that part.

[Guest062124]

Originally Posted by TexasDave555

Hey! I've toned it down a bit BTW... I have several loads of clothes and a pile of dishes ready for you.

Yes, you have and I am proud of you for it.


Hey, I'm still packing over here…could you give me a break, just once? I'm not your Superwoman!

( You sure you still want me to move in? I've got the whiny, nagging thing down to an art.)


*Back on topic*

Most of my p411 guys don't post on Eccie.. so its not much of a concern to me. However, if I found out that I had seen someone who I had originally declined to see for whatever reason... I more than likely wouldn't see him again…even if it turned out ok.