When you and a client *really* disagree

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by Wwanderer

At this point I should perhaps mention that I have a "friend" who has been a little way down this road with a few escorts and very very far down it with one. And I can assure you, or rather my "friend" can assure you, that it can become hellishly complex and confusing...a difficult navigation of dangerous waters with neither map nor GPS, so to speak. Also, I/he would have to say that it can be worth the major effort involved, at least sometimes.

Word!

[WTF]

All I know is that the girls I admire do not have to ask questions such as these.

They know what is right for them, asking others is nothing more than idle chit-chat.

[Wwanderer]

Originally Posted by WTF

All I know is that the girls I admire do not have to ask questions such as these.

They know what is right for them, asking others is nothing more than idle chit-chat.

Given that Natalie initiates threads rarely (only five total and no other ones recently...I just checked) and that most of her posts are rather brief compared to the two in this thread (including the IP), I strongly suspect that you are wrong in this case. In other words and to be clear, I'd wager that she has (or had) a significant real interest in hearing some other opinions and discussion and was not just trying make conversation for the sake of conversation, as you seem to imply.

Of course, there is no need to speculate; Natalie can tell us which of us is correct, if she pleases.

With apologies for repeating myself slightly, in my experience at least, these gray area situations (somewhere between p4p and np4p) can be really confusing and make issues that would otherwise be simple and obvious seem perplexing. My guess is that such is the case here, for Natalie's "friend".

-Ww

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Wwanderer

I strongly suspect that you are wrong in this case. In other words and to be clear, I'd wager that she has (or had) a significant real interest in hearing some other opinions and discussion and was not just trying make conversation for the sake of conversation, as you seem to imply.

Did you read my first sentence?
That said, I do think 'philosophical discussion' instead of idle chit-chat would have been a better choice of words.
Soooooooo, I hope she is capabable of making choices like these on her own and it was in fact a 'philosophical discussion' but if not, no biggie.

Originally Posted by WTF

All I know is that the girls I admire do not have to ask questions such as these.

They know what is right for them, asking others is nothing more than idle chit-chat/'philosophical discussion'.

[Guest042611]

Thank you for weighing in everyone (and nice to see you Wwanderer!). Human relationships are always complex—there's almost no one in the world whose company doesn't offer me happiness in some ways, and also no relationship is perfect. If the lady in question point-blank hated the gentleman in question, it wouldn't be much of a question at all.

The perfect courtesan is supposed to be able to intelligently and diplomatically converse on a wide array of topics (on how many websites have we seen this phrase?). The advice/experience I was looking for was more along the lines of—is it worth it to engage with someone at all when you find yourself in the position of my friend? Is it reasonable to ask that certain topics not be mentioned? How does one balance being a paid companion and a real person with opinions, and what are you actually being paid for (your true self/mind/personality, or who someone wants to believe you are, particularly when this is antithetical to your own values)?

Anyway, my questions have been more than answered and I appreciate everyone's advice. I'll spend the rest of the day mourning the loss of WTF's admiration, if I ever had it in the first place.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Natalie

. I'll spend the rest of the day mourning the loss of WTF's admiration, if I ever had it in the first place.

LOL....well it wasn't you, it was a friend that was having the trouble.

You appear to just be having a 'philosophical discussion'.

Everyone of us are different, I like to engage others and am not easily offended, God I still have a mind to post on herfacechair's thread, so my point was that this is in the realm of some Cosmo article concerning 'What should I do', you ladies are more advanced than that.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by WTF

I like to engage others and am not easily offended

God knows I've tried.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

God knows I've tried.

PJ, are you saying you're a failure??

[Wwanderer]

Originally Posted by WTF

Did you read my first sentence?

Yep, but I chose to ignore it rather than draw the inference that you do not admire Natalie's "friend".

That said, I do think 'philosophical discussion' instead of idle chit-chat would have been a better choice of words.
Soooooooo, I hope she is capabable of making choices like these on her own and it was in fact a 'philosophical discussion' but if not, no biggie.

Fwiiw, I am extremely confident that both Natalie and her "friend" are more than capable of making such choices for themselves and were looking to this thread for input and alternative perspectives, not for instructions on what to do.

Anyway, my apologies if I appeared to jump on you; I have less than zero interest in online bickering. My work involves me in more than enough tempests in teapots, leaving me with no appetite for more. Anyway, you are right, "philosophical discussion" would not have evoked the same (or any) reaction from me.

-Ww

[Wwanderer]

Originally Posted by Natalie

nice to see you Wwanderer!

Thanks and great to "see" you too, Lady Hunter.

there's almost no one in the world whose company doesn't offer me happiness in some ways

This seems to me an amazingly bold and implausible claim, but the fact that you can tolerate my company is fairly convincing evidence!

-Ww

[Guest042611]

Originally Posted by WTF

LOL....well it wasn't you, it was a friend that was having the trouble.

Ah, yes, but since I asked on her behalf, I assumed the non-admiration extended to me as well. My friend unfortunately lost all of her limbs in a bizarre gardening accident that rendered her unable to type, and so I offered my assistance as a liaison to the community.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

God knows I've tried.

God told me to tell you to try harder!

Originally Posted by Wwanderer

Anyway, my apologies if I appeared to jump on you; I have less than zero interest in online bickering. ...

... Anyway, you are right, "philosophical discussion" would not have evoked the same (or any) reaction from me.

-Ww

No apologies necessary. Bad choice of words on my part. It is the internet, happens all the time.

Originally Posted by Natalie

Ah, yes, but since I asked on her behalf, I assumed the non-admiration extended to me as well. My friend unfortunately lost all of her limbs in a bizarre gardening accident that rendered her unable to type, and so I offered my assistance as a liaison to the community.

Hot Damn your friend lost her arms and legs! ....and she is worried about a suitors' bigoted comments?

I say she resort to humor and show up in black face at their next encounter.

Ww has vouched for ya, to late now to declare anything other than 'philosophical discussion'

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by WTF

God told me to tell you to try harder!

Oh shit!!! You know what happened when I used that smiley.

[Wwanderer]

Originally Posted by WTF

No apologies necessary. ...



Hot Damn your friend

Hey, WTF - how come your font is bigger and stiffer looking when you are talking to Natalie than when you are talking to me...hmmmm??

-Ww

[atlcomedy]

I heard WTF hasn't gotten a stiff since Nixon was President