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04-27-2014, 04:59 PM
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Double Standard
I will start out by saying that I do not condone what was allegedly done, and I would not intentionally take advantage of anyone like that in the hobby or outside.
That being said, I think there is a double standard here. When a provider takes advantage of a guy, everyone jumps on the guy for being stupid and letting it happen. Now that a guy is taking advantage of a provider, everyone is jumping on the guy for taking advantage of her and not on her for letting it happen.
I in no way am saying that I understand what it is like being a new provider and not knowing all the rules to the hobby, but you need to have a certain amount of common sense in any business you chose. If this had been one of my coworkers and they had been taken advantage of like that, I would slap him/her in the back of the head and tell them they should have had more common sense.
Not trying to be mean...but trying to be realistic.
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04-27-2014, 05:12 PM
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+100 sir.. Well said
Proof will set you free and I have proof. What she said to the man and its not very nice at all. That's all im going to say.
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I will start out by saying that I do not condone what was allegedly done, and I would not intentionally take advantage of anyone like that in the hobby or outside.
That being said, I think there is a double standard here. When a provider takes advantage of a guy, everyone jumps on the guy for being stupid and letting it happen. Now that a guy is taking advantage of a provider, everyone is jumping on the guy for taking advantage of her and not on her for letting it happen.
I in no way am saying that I understand what it is like being a new provider and not knowing all the rules to the hobby, but you need to have a certain amount of common sense in any business you chose. If this had been one of my coworkers and they had been taken advantage of like that, I would slap him/her in the back of the head and tell them they should have had more common sense.
Not trying to be mean...but trying to be realistic.
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04-27-2014, 06:58 PM
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+100 sir.. Well said
Proof will set you free and I have proof. What she said to the man and its not very nice at all. That's all im going to say.
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The worst part about this whole thread is NO PICTURES
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04-27-2014, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeHead
I will start out by saying that I do not condone what was allegedly done, and I would not intentionally take advantage of anyone like that in the hobby or outside.
That being said, I think there is a double standard here. When a provider takes advantage of a guy, everyone jumps on the guy for being stupid and letting it happen. Now that a guy is taking advantage of a provider, everyone is jumping on the guy for taking advantage of her and not on her for letting it happen.
I in no way am saying that I understand what it is like being a new provider and not knowing all the rules to the hobby, but you need to have a certain amount of common sense in any business you chose. If this had been one of my coworkers and they had been taken advantage of like that, I would slap him/her in the back of the head and tell them they should have had more common sense.
Not trying to be mean...but trying to be realistic.
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I totally agree with you. I don't fault newbie guys when a lady suckers them into something, just like I won't fault a girl new to the business.
The problem with people piling on some guys getting suckered by ladies is that those guys know better because they're supposed to be "seasoned hobbyists." Do I feel bad for them? The first time I do, if they keep going back and repeating the mistake, then I say they deserve what they get.
If a lady was taken advantage of like the OP said, I hope she finds a mentor to help her out. Hell, at this point a pimp would be better than nothing for her because she's at risk in this business. A lady like myself or Jewel or Sins has be to careful in mentoring new girls because it puts us at risk with LE even more than usual.
A lot of girls that get into this business do it because they think its easy money and basically a lot of girls that do get into the biz think that just because they have boobs and a pussy believe that they're going to do great. That's not the case as some reviews will tell you.
There's always going to be good and bad hobbyists and providers. We just have to keep our eyes out for them and call them out if need be.
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04-27-2014, 09:08 PM
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+100 sir.. Well said
Proof will set you free and I have proof. What she said to the man and its not very nice at all. That's all im going to say.
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Then just say it. Don't call me up and scream at me about sticking my nose in other people's business, and then come on here and act as Petruchio's mouthpiece.
If he has a story to contradict her story, let him say it. If he doesn't have the guts to say it himself, then by all means, act as his spokesperson. Just don't lecture me about getting involved where I don't belong while you do it.
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04-27-2014, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeHead
I will start out by saying that I do not condone what was allegedly done, and I would not intentionally take advantage of anyone like that in the hobby or outside.
That being said, I think there is a double standard here. When a provider takes advantage of a guy, everyone jumps on the guy for being stupid and letting it happen. Now that a guy is taking advantage of a provider, everyone is jumping on the guy for taking advantage of her and not on her for letting it happen.
I in no way am saying that I understand what it is like being a new provider and not knowing all the rules to the hobby, but you need to have a certain amount of common sense in any business you chose. If this had been one of my coworkers and they had been taken advantage of like that, I would slap him/her in the back of the head and tell them they should have had more common sense.
Not trying to be mean...but trying to be realistic.
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If you slap another co-worker upside the head thats assault brotha... and most likely a lawsuit.
Can't we all just get along and not freak out on everyone trying to keep this thread alive?
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04-27-2014, 09:33 PM
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What happened to I love you when we hungup yesterday after you said I screamed at you. There was a person in the car that hurd us talking about this guy last night Stacy. You are fake as hell... friend to your face but then you talk about them behind there back. Also you told me that a mod told you to post this on here.You told me not to say anything. Come on now. If you guys don't belive me you can ask the hobbyist that was in the car with me. He will tell you. You were her mouthpiece. Whats the difference here.. hmmmmm? Please explain
Im done here. Fake fake
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Then just say it. Don't call me up and scream at me about sticking my nose in other people's business, and then come on here and act as Petruchio's mouthpiece.
If he has a story to contradict her story, let him say it. If he doesn't have the guts to say it himself, then by all means, act as his spokesperson. Just don't lecture me about getting involved where I don't belong while you do it.
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04-27-2014, 09:41 PM
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Maybe I'm missing something, but if she had done her research as some suggest she should have. How would that have kept him from doing what he did?
I mean if she had done her research and decided to see him with the hope of getting a nice review how would that have stopped him from not paying for her services?
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04-27-2014, 09:44 PM
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If you slap another co-worker upside the head thats assault brotha... and most likely a lawsuit.
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Actually it is battery, not assault. Assault is the act of threatening or intend to do harm and battery is the actual physical harm done.
Either way, it would most likely be laughed at in my office. It is kind of a madhouse and I have never seem as much racial remarks, blatant sexual harassment and horseplay, (pushing, slapping, hitting) in one place before, but it is all in good fun and I am in the office maybe once a month which is probably a good thing.
Also, if one of my coworkers gave away free services, they would most likely be the ones being sued and fired, so a slap on the head would not really be as big a deal when they are suddenly out of work.
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04-27-2014, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeHead
Actually it is battery, not assault. Assault is the act of threatening or intend to do harm and battery is the actual physical harm done.
Either way, it would most likely be laughed at in my office. It is kind of a madhouse and I have never seem as much racial remarks, blatant sexual harassment and horseplay, (pushing, slapping, hitting) in one place before, but it is all in good fun and I am in the office maybe once a month which is probably a good thing.
Also, if one of my coworkers gave away free services, they would most likely be the ones being sued and fired, so a slap on the head would not really be as big a deal when they are suddenly out of work.
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I was kidding and quoting a movie at the same time, but fair enough.
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04-27-2014, 09:59 PM
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Thanks for the early version of judge judy.
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04-27-2014, 11:02 PM
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What happened to I love you when we hungup yesterday after you said I screamed at you. There was a person in the car that hurd us talking about this guy last night Stacy. You are fake as hell... friend to your face but then you talk about them behind there back. Also you told me that a mod told you to post this on here.You told me not to say anything. Come on now. If you guys don't belive me you can ask the hobbyist that was in the car with me. He will tell you. You were her mouthpiece. Whats the difference here.. hmmmmm? Please explain
Im done here. Fake fake
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Hey this is going to become another Kaylen drama thread. Grab the popcorn!!!
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04-27-2014, 11:31 PM
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To hell with the Petruchio issue, who the hell is the babe whose picture is above Judge Judy's? Anyone have HER contact info?
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04-27-2014, 11:36 PM
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To hell with the Petruchio issue, who the hell is the babe whose picture is above Judge Judy's? Anyone have HER contact info?
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Hey man, that's my mom, stop looking at her like that until I get the money LOL.
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04-27-2014, 11:40 PM
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Well I'll be a mother fucker!!!
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