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Old 11-12-2016, 11:28 AM   #46
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If we want to direct our anger someplace- I'd say aim it at each of the party committee leaders who failed to bring forth good options to choose from.
The RNC and DNC don't really give a hoot what we think. The RNC originally wanted Jeb even though his own party didn't want him. The DNC was all about getting Hillary nominated. Dems were getting Hillary whether they liked it or not.
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I would also urge crybabies, male lesbians, retards, and weirdos not to worry too much about any anticipated form of macroeconomic policy destroying their lives or interrupting their prosperity to practice patience. The impact of public policy is really difficult to anticipate and generally isn't going to be the primary factor influencing your economic well-being.

I can't imagine myself, for example, possibly being undermined by anything any president thinks or feels.

I do believe the new president feels strongly about immigration reform and protecting the borders, which as a devoted long-term enemy of sharia law, I am extremely happy about. I would think women and men-with-vaginas would feel the same way if they haven't been blinded by hatred toward The Donald.

From the point of view of a voyeur and a lover of the misery of people I don't like, I'm enjoying this more than maybe I should.

I've tried implementing sports analogies to people who are distracted to the point of being unable to work, or as I said earlier cycling through the stages of grief and in severe need of crisis counseling, but I can't find a true equivalent.

Closest I can come with is imagining a Cowboy vs Jet Super Bowl, and trying to imagine which winner would annoy me more.
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Old 11-12-2016, 07:05 PM   #48
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The RNC and DNC don't really give a hoot what we think. The RNC originally wanted Jeb even though his own party didn't want him. The DNC was all about getting Hillary nominated. Dems were getting Hillary whether they liked it or not.
Good point- but that may now start to change. Both want to field a winner for one thing. And if we have a couple more election cycles line this, the fracturing of our nation could lead to irreversible consequences- none good for our global competitiveness. Neither party wants that.
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Old 11-12-2016, 10:34 PM   #49
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We survived eight years of Obama.
We can do anything!!!
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after eight years of Dubya - which included 9-11, and Iraq All for the pleasure of exxon mobil et al. Even he or the former first lady couldn't vote for this "president elect". Says a lot.

what wars have we started for big oil in the past 8 yrs?

you were saying?
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Old 11-13-2016, 12:17 AM   #51
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plastic man ...be busy drinkin liberal ...tears an hearin moanin from the butt ...hurt
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Old 11-13-2016, 12:31 PM   #52
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what wars have we started for big oil in the past 8 yrs?

you were saying?
This is clearly loaded language.

Of course our primary interest in becoming involved with these savages is our dependence on petroleum based fuel.

Regardless, the United States became re-involved in Iraq in 2014, after withdrawing in 2011.

Not part of a war we "started", but stil a major military action commenced under bullshit-artist Obama.
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Old 11-13-2016, 01:18 PM   #53
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This is clearly loaded language.

Of course our primary interest in becoming involved with these savages is our dependence on petroleum based fuel.

Regardless, the United States became re-involved in Iraq in 2014, after withdrawing in 2011.

Not part of a war we "started", but stil a major military action commenced under bullshit-artist Obama.
Apparently you don't know what a major military action is
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Old 11-13-2016, 02:07 PM   #54
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I'm not sure if you're one of the stupid people or not because I don't believe I have ever posted back and for with you, but as a general rule I try not to get into great depth on politics or history with stupid people.

If you're a Democrat, I would be even more surprised if you think what's going on over there is OK.

Just take a quick look at the military commitment in terms of money and time and explain to me what it is if it isn't a major conflict. You can probably find something on wikipedia or something like wikipedia if you don't have much time.
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Old 11-13-2016, 02:22 PM   #55
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I'm not going to sit and wait for anyone to chime in so I'll say what I think and if anyone cares to answer as intelligently as they may be capable of they can of course go right ahead.

I believe that we (the United States government) attempted to destabilize (actually unseat) an unfriendly government led by a genocidal individual, and collaterally popped the cork on a millineum old holy war between a couple of groups of religious maniacs who have zero respect for human life. Actually, these folks glorify martyrdom and seem to get off on it the way the male lesbians on here get off on currying favor from fat hooks.

I think that during the course of this action, the bad guys have demonstrated a willingness, really an eagerness, to play fast and loose with human life.

I believe at least 2 million people have been killed during the course of this mess. I believe the United States has actually killed a microscopic percentage of these people. Most of them have been victimized by fellow shiite and sunnis who have no compuction about murdering people, because their iron-age warlord shithead bodification of the holy spirit said this was ok a thousand or so years ago. Why did the scumbag muhammad say it was ok? Because god told him so.

I feel the US government (when led by either a republican or democrat as commander in chief) has essentially zero responsibility for the vast majority of these deaths.

Fuck them if they want to kill eachother. I hope they succeed.
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Old 11-13-2016, 02:48 PM   #56
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One silver lining is undesirables from every country,especially the US,join up with isis and are being eliminated making things safer on the home front
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Old 11-13-2016, 02:58 PM   #57
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I'm not going to search for facts but a couple of deaths in a war doesn't constitute a major conflict historically.Vietnam was called a police action.As for money spent it's minor compared to what is wasted by our military every year.
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I believe that we (the United States government) attempted to destabilize (actually unseat) an unfriendly government led by a genocidal individual, and collaterally popped the cork on a millineum old holy war between a couple of groups of religious maniacs who have zero respect for human life.

I think that during the course of this action, the bad guys have demonstrated a willingness, really an eagerness, to play fast and loose with human life.

I feel the US government (when led by either a republican or democrat as commander in chief) has essentially zero responsibility for the vast majority of these deaths.

Fuck them if they want to kill eachother. I hope they succeed.
I'm sorry, but your first statement in your diatribe clearly contradicts your last. So the US government attempted to destabilize a foreign entity, yet has zero responsibility. Hmmmmmmm. As to your dismissal of my original comment. Our involvement in Iraq was due to dubya/cheney. If things needed to be re-upped - it was on those cretins and exxon mobil/chevron/texaco that we were involved in the first place. the Bush legacy with big oil is notorious.

but them i'm sure you will come up with some word crafted bs response. Go ahead pooh bear

edit add: Oh yeah - and who is the bad guys? The people we invaded or us. Your thesis is flawed
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I'm sorry, but your first statement in your diatribe clearly contradicts your last. So the US government attempted to destabilize a foreign entity, yet has zero responsibility. Hmmmmmmm. As to your dismissal of my original comment. Our involvement in Iraq was due to dubya/cheney. If things needed to be re-upped - it was on those cretins and exxon mobil/chevron/texaco that we were involved in the first place. the Bush legacy with big oil is notorious.

but them i'm sure you will come up with some word crafted bs response. Go ahead pooh bear

edit add: Oh yeah - and who is the bad guys? The people we invaded or us. Your thesis is flawed
It has zero responsibility for the overwhelming majority of the deaths.

It is responsible for taking advantage of a politicized climate to usurp a government run by a piece of shit.

The bad guys are the regressives who take the word of a sixth-century moron warlord as the literal word of god.

I would think any leftist would be more than repulsed by the day to day practices of these people, particularly the way they view women under sharia law, to tolerate someone who likes to grab a little pussy when he can, especially on a whore board.

There is no contradiction there. You simply have to read the entire post.
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Let me be very very clear here.

What I am saying is that sunnis kill more shiite and shiite kill more sunni than the US military kills, and it's not close.

What anti-American propagandists would like you to believe is that the US is responsible for all the deaths, as if we shot, bombed, macheted, sawed off the heads of, and molotov cocktailed all of those terrorists, wives of terrorists, sisters, brothers, mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles, neices, nephews, goats, chickens, attack dogs,and whatever else of terrorists, by our own hands.

This is flat-out BULLSHIT.

These animals have been killing eachother for trivial matters that were outgrowths of mythology for centuries.

Wake up people.
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