Big Ben

[cabot]

Originally Posted by eaglehorse

Remember it the other 10 guys who play too.

Totally true, which is why I think guys blame the QB (and credit him!) way too much for the wins/losses. In fact, he needs 21 other players to win anything. Give me the greatest QB of all time - then put him on the Jaguars and he'd look like a bum.

Eagle, you played with Marino? Were you on offense, and if so, could you tell us what that was like?

He's the perfect example of why I think it's utterly ridiculous to assess a QB on Super Bowl wins. The guy was amazing, but unfortunately, that TEAM was never good enough. In his prime, I'd take him over Ben every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

[eaglehorse]

Cabot, I did not play football at Pitt. That was a pun on big Dan. You bet I would take Danny over Ben.
Well I don't want excuses on the game today, so I will not say told you so, and yes we always play down to losing teams, today the Jets had their way. Interesting and great to see 2 old men on defense show those youngins how to play. Harrison and Beard.

[kngslmn]

eagle, i will be the first to eat crow....uughhhh...at least i got to go outside early and blow leaves

[OMGitsHuge]

As bad as they played, and the players played badly, I'm putting this on Tomlin. How long do we have to suffer through loses to the bottom feeders in the NFL???? To quote Bum "He can take his'n and (get) beat (by) your'n and take your'n and (get) beat (by) his'n." ....... or something like that.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by OMGitsHuge

As bad as they played, and the players played badly, I'm putting this on Tomlin. How long do we have to suffer through loses to the bottom feeders in the NFL???? To quote Bum "He can take his'n and (get) beat (by) your'n and take your'n and (get) beat (by) his'n." ....... or something like that.

Here's how bright Tomlin is. They win the opening coin toss and elect to play defense like it's the 70's. We have the hottest QB in the league against the worst secondary. I don't get it.

[snakebit]

Tomlin is an ass but if You criticize him they label You a racist.