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jfree1337 · 01-12-2011, 09:52 AM

never mind, found some professional statements, I think the community will find it enlightening.
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Ch...x/show/1360760

also check out the related discussions on the topic

jceeman · 01-12-2011, 10:27 AM

The risk is very very low! Even giving BBJCIMNQNS the risk would be very very low. It would make a lot more sense to worry about getting killed every time you go somewhere by motor vehicle.

azianbell · 01-13-2011, 06:49 AM

I am glad that this is taken up on the board...either I have miss read or can anyone explain one more time for ALL what the out come from CIM, not just BBBJ?
Thank you for bringing it all up!!

guest010313 · 01-13-2011, 10:41 AM

Um, thats great for men, but does not address the risks of women contracting STDs from CIM, regardless of spit or swallow.

http://www.cdc.gov/hpv/WhatIsHPV.html

CDC fact page, you can follow various links but HPV is associated with increased risk of throat/mouth cancer. And this is really just one example.

Exposure to diseased semen is exposure to diseased semen and you CAN get most STDs orally.

azianbell · 01-13-2011, 12:56 PM

Thanks SG, that's what I thought too, but I do like to ask dumb question to get others knowledge of it and more info, thanks again...muah

seductivesarah · 01-13-2011, 12:58 PM

WELL YOU WILL RUN YOURSELF IN THE POOR HOUSE IF YOU COVER BUT JUST DONT CIM IT DOESNT TAKE AWAY FROM THE RISK SO IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT RISK GET INTO ANOTHER LINE OF WORK THIS IS A RISKY BIZ

guest010313 · 01-13-2011, 03:41 PM

I would also like to note that somehow I missed the first couple of pages of this thread, and my response was based on this page only.

But the whole "if you so worried you should quit" mentality is silly. From what I was reading it seems like people are super concerned about men's health and not so much about women's. Was just doing a little balancing of the scales there as well.

Still have not read the first 2 pages ;p

guest011313 · 01-26-2011, 09:35 PM

I havent even seen anyone mention syphilis . That can be transmitted through oral sex.

threepeckeredbillygoat · 01-27-2011, 03:25 AM

I think bbjs and cim and nqns have all been going on in this hobby for so long, and we all know how old this hobby is and how many people have participated in it, that if it was an issue it would have reared its ugly head by now. It would already be all over these boards and the news. Just like the hiv virus was in the 80's with the homosexual community. There has never been such an issue with this come out in the hobby that I know of. If the men or the ladies who indulged in such activities were coming down with stds they would quit doing it, but they obviously are not. You can not believe everything you hear, sometimes you need to just look around and see what's really going on. And its been going on for a long time.

London Rayne · 01-27-2011, 05:16 AM

I have said it before and I will say it again...IF you are providing BBBJ, you may as well CIM and Swallow as well because your risk is the POINT OF CONTACT, not what you do with it after.

It is always more risk on the girl than the guy...why do you think they are so determined to bully every girl into doing it lol.

As someone in Health Care for the better part of my life, take this for what it's worth...the risk with oral sex is always increased big time on the one giving it.

If you are a provider who sees more than one guy a day and does these services, you are at the most risk because you have to brush your teeth after each client. That causes scrapes even when you can't see them. If someone has a disease it is in the pre-cum which is normally released instantly when you insert his wee wee in your mouth.

CIM just gives you more of it, but whatever he has....you had it the minute you started. The theory of swallowing is also another misconception, as nothing gets past your stomach acids....you had it from contact before it ever got to your stomach.

threepeckeredbillygoat · 01-27-2011, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by London Rayne

I have said it before and I will say it again...IF you are providing BBBJ, you may as well CIM and Swallow as well because your risk is the POINT OF CONTACT, not what you do with it after.

+1+1+1+1
I couldn't agree more, you might as well. Lol

guest011313 · 01-27-2011, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by London Rayne

I have said it before and I will say it again...IF you are providing BBBJ, you may as well CIM and Swallow as well because your risk is the POINT OF CONTACT, not what you do with it after.

It is always more risk on the girl than the guy...why do you think they are so determined to bully every girl into doing it lol.

As someone in Health Care for the better part of my life, take this for what it's worth...the risk with oral sex is always increased big time on the one giving it.

If you are a provider who sees more than one guy a day and does these services, you are at the most risk because you have to brush your teeth after each client. That causes scrapes even when you can't see them. If someone has a disease it is in the pre-cum which is normally released instantly when you insert his wee wee in your mouth.

CIM just gives you more of it, but whatever he has....you had it the minute you started. The theory of swallowing is also another misconception, as nothing gets past your stomach acids....you had it from contact before it ever got to your stomach.

Yup, thats what it all boils down to....what feels better to them (bbbj) and its more risk to the woman. Pretty low n sad if you ask me.

Fastcars1966 · 01-27-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Atxitalianbella

Yup, thats what it all boils down to....what feels better to them (bbbj) and its more risk to the woman. Pretty low n sad if you ask me.

It is pretty low risk for you as well. I know you assume more risk than the men, but ask the women that provide it and I am sure they will tell you the same.

Fastcars1966 · 01-27-2011, 01:28 PM

Life is full of risk. We all know what could happen, but how much risk are YOU willing to assume. This is a decision made between two consenting ADULTS.

topsgt38801 · 01-27-2011, 03:48 PM

Only complete way to be safe is to be celibate. Everyone runs a risk regardless of cover or not, because they do break and other accidents can happen. We all assume a risk with every encounter and we all feel the risk is worth the pleasure and enjoyment we receive from each other. We can all use whatever means we feel will increase the safety factor, but it is really a false feeling of security because of the many different partners and never knowing who or what anyone may have been exposed to. I can in most cases be agreeable to whatever the provider feels most comfortable with and will in some cases ask especially if I feel the need is there. I will not give the provider a bad review because they do not want to do BBBJ. There has been another state forum covering BBFS, and I have met one provider who said she had no cover, but in that situation, I always carry a spare or two just in case. That is especially one area I would not go bare and could possibly impact my review. I always want the ladies to feel as comfortable as I want to feel and will defer to their wishes.

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