OMFG TEXAS guy kills escort and aquitted

[Codybeast]

Originally Posted by greymouse

I avoided reading it for a while, maybe because of the red thumbs down someone slapped on it - what is that supposed to mean? That it is about a particularly horrible crime or that the criminal should not be criticized because he has one swinging and is therefore a member of the Blue Team and must be supported no matter what by all his "brothers"?

This is a vicious murder of a woman sex worker by a customer guy. Any one who defends the murdered is making himself an accessory to the violent crime wave against women and particularly sex workers by men that has been going on forever and looks to continue until our deeply flawed species takes its pace on evolutions' discard pile. It is dangerous being a woman in world ful of violently misogynistic men and much more dangerous to be a woman in the commercial sex business.

The truth of that is why I have no objections to the means women use to attempt to avoid finding themselves naked and alone in a locked room with a man who hates women (all of them), is larger and stronger than they are, is experienced with violence and may have armed himself. The means, screening, are not very good but some Customer Guys object to any effort at all to determine whether they might be psycho killers and prefer to rave about their supposed risk : "My wife might find out!!!"

While I appreciate Gneiss Guy's efforts to explain to the more stupid why they really do not want to attempt to "Pull an Ezekiel" the next time they are unhappy with a session, the fact it was necessary is appalling. That is was necessary was quickly established by the Band of Brothers who self posted alerts on themselves.

I would disagree with the nearly always reasonable GG about the sacredness of "jury nullification" as always an effective means of restraining government power. Juries that enforced a law other than the one in the law books protected a reign of terror for a hundred years throughout the former confederate Sourh against people the jury men hated and feared. A lot of people hate and fear sexworkers.

I very much hope the "Feds" bring deprivation of civil rights charges against the San Antonio murderer- subjecting the victim to seven months paralyzed torture on a ventilator until the consequences of the wound he chose to inflict finally killed her would seem to qualify. Not that is not very likely given the passive nature of the present Administration but perhaps the Federal Prosecutor for San Antonio is feeling as humiliated by the state jury's actions as I am.

As was stated I don't believe he should have resorted to violence but this hardly falls under the crimes against sex workers profile implying that he premeditated, hired her and attacked without provocation.

Yes he is a murderer in as much as none of us would resort to physical violence in this case but the point is she was also a criminal in the process of ripping him off which in turn set him off.

I doubt a jury of twelve which included women would have let him walk if they viewed him as an attacker of sex workers.

If my opinion is considered self alert worthy then fine. Let all providers who intend to rip me off be alerted that while I have never raised a hand to a woman in my life, I do empathize with any individual man or woman who won't just lie down and let someone blatantly rip them off.

These thieves are counting on the fact that clients are afraid of the law when they pull this crap. Victims my ass.

She was a Thief who was shot for stealing. She was not simply another poor fallen victimized sex worker.

[rockerrick]

Dude just pass him a tampon for his vagina !

[Codybeast]

Originally Posted by rockerrick

Dude just pass him a tampon for his vagina !

I hear that!

[greymouse]

I'd like to thanks the boyz for so speedily proving my point that for some men loudly proving to themselves that they are ultra manly by consciously choosing to behave like someone whose entire personality is containing within his rectum is always Job One, far exceeding trifles like justice and the safety of the women upon whom the site depends for its existence.

However, now that they have gone all hormonal they are highjacking the thread. This one is about a murder and what happened then. A murder of a real woman who was in this business.

If the boyz want to argue about who has the biggest hanging apparatus and to throw feces to prove it, to themselves, they really should open a separate thread.

[rockerrick]

Blah Blah fucking Blah Blah ! We discussed the justice dealt out , you just don't like it ! So while my head is up my rectum , at least it's not up my vagina!
And guess what , the court is on our side ! Not murder , justifiable homicide of a thief ! So if you wish to keep crying , might I suggest you write a Lifetime movie script !

[fun2come]

Do I need to read any of this? Cause it's Friday night and I just shot a few loads into mouth and covers....

[Randall Creed]

If you condone that shit in any capacity....FUCK YOU.

And mods, I don't give a shit about points for saying that. Knock yourselves out if you feel the urge. This is about the bullshittest thing I've ever heard. I hope karma catches up to the piece of shit.

Yeah, ripoffs, cash and dashers and the like help fuck up the business just as much as the guys who don't pay, pretend to be cops, etc, but she didn't deserve that, especially not to suffer for months after before dying. Maybe getting a flat tire in pouring rain is some measure of justice for a ripoff, or maybe losing the money herself in some fashion, but not getting killed like that.

Oh, and saying some douchebaggy shit and liking your own post doesn't make it any more credible.

[rockerrick]

I more than condone it , I'm getting my permit to carry oh and I'm middle aged and white , care to test me ?

[boobs mcgee]

The judge was female. And obviously the jury rendered the not guilty verdict not the judge.

That being said, I do agree with Cody - had she chosen not to steal the money, and/or simply given the money back and left, I bet none of this would have happened with the gun.

I believe it is something most guys would not do - they would just sit there and let the girl walk out with the money. That is what she was banking on, probably because her pimp told her to do it.

While I agree the verdict was very close, and I don't have all the information to read, I do believe that there are several culpable parties:

1. The pimp - probably trained her to go in, get the money, and leave.
2. The girl - went to a man's residence, where he may be armed, and attempt to take his money without any thought he just might fight to get his money back. Because her shitty pimp was there to protect her, and I bet he ran like hell.
3. The customer - for assuming she was legit, inviting an unknown to his house, handing her money, and the resorting to a gun to get it back.

To me it appears no one person was innocent.

Originally Posted by Codybeast

10 to 1 the judge is a hobbyist who's been burned before.

[boobs mcgee]

I'd think his DNA would be on/in her. And she may have made an admission since she did not die for several months. I'd assume the police interviewed her and got a statement of some sort.

Vigilante action based upon this decision would only be valid in that particular district court.

And I hate to say it, but it may just remind those dishonest women who plan to grab the cash and run that some other guy may be just as determined to get his money back.

Personally I think he didnt need to do it, and I bet he paid a lot more to his attorneys to defend him in court.

Much cheaper in my opinion to be ripped off 20 times. But some people don't like thievery and this guy evidently didn't.

Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Hold on for just a minute again.... As I, and others, have pointed out, what makes us so sure that she didn't fulfill her end of the bargain? We don't know what deal they made. Is there video? Audio? Did the driver/pimp testify he sent her into steal? Did she admit to stealing? Did she take anything OTHER than her fee? (That kind of belies the theft argument. Why didn't she grab something else on the way out? She was already there to steal, supposedly, so seems a waste to just walk off with $150.) Quite frankly, without further research, this sounds like any other he said/she said.

I guess we all ought to read the transcripts, huh?

But despite the alleged nefarious nighttime "heist," she didn't warrant a death sentence. I stand by my statement that she deserved to be punished appropriate to the crime.

This was a gross overreaction and rewarding it by letting him go is basically opening the door to more vigilante action. It's a slippery slope.

[boobs mcgee]

The defense did not argue protection of his home, only theft during the night time and that the money was not recoverable by any other means.

The verdict given by a jury of his peers acquitted him. You may disagree with him, but he is not a murderer since he was acquitted.

You are presenting a series of "what-if's". There is no proof of fact of what you allege. Do you know how many men and women were on this jury? How can you label this jury "misogynist"?

Speak with facts not assumptions. The man was acquitted, he is NOT guilty of anything including murder, whether you agree or disagree.

Just make sure you don't rip that guy off.....although if I was him is stop hobbling. This ought to be a wake up call for him, as well as any provider who had ever planned to rip a client off.

Sad way to die, sad all around, but he was declared innocent.

Originally Posted by sue_nami

I would like to say again, that fbsm is probably considered escort by court. who's to say that for that paltry price it was not supposed to be rub and tug only and he is the one who was trying to force her into more services than she offered. if she was in her car when it happened, he can't claim he was defending his property or home. he is a vigilante and murderer. shameful that our Texas juries are so misogynist and allowed this wrong decision to happen. Regardless of the true facts, her behavior didn't warrant a death penalty.

[Randall Creed]

Originally Posted by rockerrick

I more than condone it , I'm getting my permit to carry oh and I'm middle aged and white , care to test me ?

LMAO.

Someone cue up one of those 'internet tough guy' pics, will ya?

He's in the 'getting his permit' stage. Impressive.

[rockerrick]

What's the matter Rambro , I just tipped one for your dead homie ? lol

[JennsLolli]

I hope the women on this board are reading carefully and taking note. It is a true shame that the men here can be so utterly disrespectful and disgusting. Luckily I know from experience that the opinions voiced here are in the minority of boys turning to P4P, but damn...do y'all really hate women this much? I shudder at the realization that I have previously accepted donations from men who would shrug their shoulders let alone condone such an account (or outcome of one).

Believe me, as many times as any of you boys have been ripped off, any provider has been ripped off at least twice as much. Consider it a risk of dealing within an informal market. It's scary and shady as fuck out there so show a little love for the women who welcome strangers into their incalls day after day. If you get scammed, just be happy you didn't get arrested. Right?

Pro-tip: the more you love women and the harder you work to respect them, the more rewarding your sex-life will be. Want to be a better lover? Be a goddamn feminist.

[rockerrick]

Hahaha you feminazi's keep making it about a woman , it's about a thief ! Don't care if it's a man , woman , or a hermaphrodite , thieves are as low as murderers and rapist , and whatever they get taking advantage is deserved ! And anyone reading about this case , won't be worried about what happens if LE catches me , instead what if someone else catches me ?