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Old 06-29-2012, 06:01 AM   #31
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My insurance hasnt gone up and I am glad I can cover my kids till they get their shit together. Kids think they are invinceable and then if they get sick they find themselves tens of thousands of dollars in debt. just a few days in the hospital easily goes into 5 figures. How is that bad?

Pre-existing conditions not being a reason to let people suffer and die... hmmm how is that bad?
+1

My gf has a pre existing condition since she was 18 or so, it has to be treated soon so she can have kids, but not covered by insurance. Could develop into something much more serious if not treated.

So those of you who want to maintain the status quo, fuck off.

Maybe it is all a cunning plan. The whackos don't want health care, so they can keep a constant supply of hookers and strippers who work (reluctantly) to pay medical bills.

The price of a BJ has just gone up. Market supply has fallen. The sky is falling down.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:09 AM   #32
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In other words, you got nothin'.
No. You "got nothin'".

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Old 06-29-2012, 09:13 AM   #33
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BULLSHIT. You are either a liar or stupid about the cost of your healthcare. If your premiums did not go up, it is because your coverage went down.




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My insurance hasnt gone up ..........
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:44 PM   #34
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BULLSHIT. You are either a liar or stupid about the cost of your healthcare. If your premiums did not go up, it is because your coverage went down.
Or, the company he works for covered the increase without passing it on to him.
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:43 PM   #35
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Or, the company he works for covered the increase without passing it on to him.
Maybe. I won't know will I? You know who isnt bitching about obamacare? United healthcare, Aeta, BCBS. They make billions upon billions in profits every year and know the young and healthy can easily cover the ones they hated covering.

Preventative care saves them money,

from Forbes:

UnitedHealthcare, the nation’s largest private health insurance company, has announced its intent to continue allowing parents to keep their kids under the age of 26 on their insurance policies while also sticking with the concept of providing their customers with preventative medical care without need for co-pay or other additional out-of-pocket charges, no matter what the future of Obamacare may be.


Apparently, UnitedHealthcare has discovered that—in both the short and long term—health care reform had it right when it comes to the savings to be accomplished when encouraging customers to take care of themselves before they fall ill. The approach also saves the insurance company money by fostering patient practices designed to discover disease early, thereby avoiding the far higher costs that attach when illness becomes more serious and expensive to treat.


The company additionally intends to continue its ACA required policy of not placing lifetime caps on benefits, thus protecting insured customers from using up their coverage should they encounter a serious, long-lasting illness. This is a particularly interesting development in that there is no financial upside to an insurance company in electing to continue this practice were the Court or Congress to take them off the hook with regard to this obligation. This decision would seemingly make it clear that UnitedHealthcare anticipates a strong, negative public reaction were they to revert to their old ways of capping health insurance benefits.
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:44 PM   #36
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Profit is theft. Corporations are supposed to go into business to provide jobs and benefits, not to make money. I'm sure if Obama forces the health insurance companies to operate at a loss, they'll stay in business just to make him happy.
how is profit theft?

and where did you get the idea that corporations were created to provide jobs & benefits, not to make money???
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:51 PM   #37
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how is profit theft?

and where did you get the idea that corporations were created to provide jobs & benefits, not to make money???

I WAS KIDDING. IT'S A JOKE. It's called satire. I was stating the liberal's stupid view of capitalism.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:49 AM   #38
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I was stating the liberal's stupid view of capitalism.
And he thought it was stupid enough to actually be your true viewpoint.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:10 AM   #39
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And he thought it was stupid enough to actually be your true viewpoint.
Oh, the irony of it all!
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:06 AM   #40
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Or, the company he works for covered the increase without passing it on to him.
His employer may absorb the cost for now. In the long run, the employee is actually paying for his own health insurance, even if his employer provides it. The health insurance, provided by an employer is part of the worker's compensation package.

If the employer provides health insurance, that's money he doesn't have to increase wages; nothing is free. The real benefit, to the employee, of receiving health insurance provided by his employer, is that it's not considered as taxable income. Self employed people, that have to buy their own health insurance, get screwed, because they can't take the expense as a complete right off on their income taxes.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:40 PM   #41
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I WAS KIDDING. IT'S A JOKE. It's called satire. I was stating the liberal's stupid view of capitalism.
sorry, I missed that satire.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:46 PM   #42
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And he thought it was stupid enough to actually be your true viewpoint.
actually, I was wondering why he did a 180 on his view points. I did not pick up his satirical joke. there are some satire that fly over my head. guess his is almost one of them since I didn't get his joke.
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