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Old 06-11-2021, 09:41 AM   #31
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TRB correct they only see what they want , To answer the Bambino NOBOBY is watching over the media the censorship and brainwashing continues
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Old 06-11-2021, 09:43 AM   #32
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Paranoid fantasies?
Russia, Russia, Russia
Ukraine phone call
gassing the turds outside the church
holding children in cages
the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine
Russian bounties
the Chinese threat
and there's more!!!

Disliking AOC, Omar, and Harris has nothing to do with their vaginas and everything to do with their politics. You have a word for that? I do. It's called patriotism.

As for crazy posts, I'm answering one.
Yep.

Although I will state txdot has some sense. He seems to have it together and will post a good argument/viewpoint at times. I think he likes fried pies so hes an all right guy.
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Old 06-11-2021, 09:47 AM   #33
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TRB correct they only see what they want , To answer the Bambino NOBOBY is watching over the media the censorship and brainwashing continues
Isn’t that protections guaranteed first amendment, RDM?
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Old 06-12-2021, 10:33 AM   #34
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You know, sometimes I think you try to be obtuse as hell.
Nothing you said has anything to do with what I was pointing out. Yes, you have to be a US citizen but how to prove it. Everything you listed is fungible. The root of everything is how do you identify yourself. That you refuse to address. A utility bill? A bank statement? Give me a break. Even then, they can't identify the person casting the ballot.
It's been a long time since I registered to vote in the state of Texas but my guess is I filled out a form, submitted it to the county election office, and people checked my answers to verify my answers were correct. Here is the form:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jRC...nHFtweyyn/view

As it shows, I am asked to check a box as to whether or not I am a U.S. citizen. It asks for no proof.

The form used "Federal Only" voting is very similar and requires a 3rd party to check the application for correctness, just as in the state. The same requirements exist for proving citizenship at the state and federal level.

Point is, registration to vote requires one to be a U.S. citizen. There is no reason to believe that anyone who registered to vote using the "Federal Only" registration process and was approved is not a U.S. citizen. Unless you can prove otherwise.
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Old 06-12-2021, 10:42 AM   #35
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Funny how the first thing 1 AD , from the people that are suppressing , and no Lies and fake narratives to brainwash the masses are not the meaning just saying
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Old 06-12-2021, 10:43 AM   #36
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You still don't get it do you. You ASSUME that everyone who wants to cast a "federal only" ballot is a US citizen and needs no proof? Everyone in the US capitol on January 6th was a house member and you don't need proof otherwise. Since they were also voting in a state election, where is their proof of residency?
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Old 06-12-2021, 11:13 AM   #37
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You still don't get it do you. You ASSUME that everyone who wants to cast a "federal only" ballot is a US citizen and needs no proof? Everyone in the US capitol on January 6th was a house member and you don't need proof otherwise. Since they were also voting in a state election, where is their proof of residency?
What I'm saying is everyone who submits a form requesting a "federal only" registration goes through the same validation process as anyone who registers through the state, including that they are in fact a U.S. citizen.

Here are the requirements to be able to vote in Arizona:

Qualifications for Registration

To register to vote in Arizona you must meet the following qualifications (A.R.S. § 16-101(link is external)):

Be a United States citizen

Be a resident of Arizona and the county listed on your registration

Be 18 years of age or older on or before the day of the next regular General Election

For information regarding proof of citizenship and the ability to vote in federal, state, county, and local elections, visit our Proof of Citizenship Requirements page.


Accepted Proof of Citizenship Information

If you have an Arizona drivers license or non-operating identification card issued after October 1, 1996, you will only need to list the license number on box 9 of the voter registration form.

If you do not have an Arizona license you may need to provide one of the following documents to establish proof of citizenship:

Supporting legal documentation (i.e. marriage certificate) if the name on the birth certificate is not the same as your current legal name

A legible photocopy of the pertinent pages of your passport

U.S. naturalization documents or fill in your Alien Registration Number in box 11 on the voter registration form

Your Indian Census Number, Bureau of Indian Affairs Card Number, Tribal Treaty Card Number, or fill in your Tribal Enrollment Number in box 10 on the voter registration form

A legible photocopy of your Tribal Certificate of Indian Blood or Tribal or Bureau of Indian Affairs Affidavit of Birth


So what you stated in your OP, The problem arises that Arizona allows people to vote without proof of US citizenship. A bank statement or something similar was all that was necessary to vote in federal elections."is incorrect.
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Old 06-12-2021, 02:46 PM   #38
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A driver's license...and what's does it take to get a license?
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Old 06-12-2021, 03:45 PM   #39
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You don’t have to be a citizen to get a drivers license.
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https://helloskip.com/blog/can-i-get...a-u-s-citizen/
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Old 06-13-2021, 08:56 AM   #41
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A driver's license...and what's does it take to get a license?
Same rules as in Texas. Here is the Texas voter registration form:

https://www.sos.state.tx.us/election...th-receipt.pdf

In Arizona, in order to get a drivers license:

Before you visit your local MVD office, you will need to obtain acceptable forms of identification in order to prove your age, identification, and legal presence in the United States.

So having a drivers license in Arizona requires proof that you are there legally and can subsequently be used in voter registration. The application for voter registration then goes to the board of elections which is responsible for validating the application.
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Legally present ≠ citizen
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Old 06-13-2021, 06:51 PM   #43
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Exactly. So no state that only requires a driver license to register to vote (50 of them) doesn’t require proof off citizenship. So your entire argument claiming Texas is somehow better than AZ is false. Proof of citizenship is validated in all states the same way. At another time and place and stage of the process.
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Old 06-14-2021, 10:08 AM   #44
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Same rules as in Texas. Here is the Texas voter registration form:

https://www.sos.state.tx.us/election...th-receipt.pdf

In Arizona, in order to get a drivers license:

Before you visit your local MVD office, you will need to obtain acceptable forms of identification in order to prove your age, identification, and legal presence in the United States.

So having a drivers license in Arizona requires proof that you are there legally and can subsequently be used in voter registration. The application for voter registration then goes to the board of elections which is responsible for validating the application.
The fatal flaw, being here legally does not make you a citizen with voting rights.
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