what is GFE

[Kaysunshine]

Originally Posted by Invisible1

What is DFW GFE?

GFE: fresh breath, hugging, touching, passionate lfk & dfk, bbbj (cim optional), daty/dato, cfs, msog w/hr+, realP or IOP, nice personality/conversation and enjoys the time together. Trimmed or shaved bush w/o scratchy stubble is a good thing..... So are shaved/smooth legs, A towel and access to a shower should probably be part of GFE too.

The guy wanting GFE should be clean, smooth shaved or have beard groomed, have fresh breath, and be polite. Trimmed or shaved privates w/o scratchy stubble is probably a plus.

+1

Originally Posted by Bob Soldios

By my definitions...

GFE - Kissing, including DFK, BBBJ, conversationally proficient enough I feel like I'm with someone who honestly enjoys time with me, capable of either enjoying herself with me, or good enough to convince me she is. Feels like a good hook up you'd have with a girl you were dating. Feels familiar and comfortable and fun fucking.

PSE - Dirtier, little to no kissing, fucking as a sporting event. Often includes greek, fouler mouth and louder dirtier talking the better.

TWE (The Wife Experience) - Walks past you and tells you to fuck off and considers that the intimacy for the day. At most lays still and spreads legs pondering what color to paint the ceiling until you finish.

+1 and a laugh for the TWE



As far as you guys jumping down David's back here's the thing. I understood what he meant to say in his first post and he was in no way stating that it is OK to rape anyone. What I got from his post (after reading it once) was standard transaction practices. I always ask what their definition of GFE includes, and that's so I can know whether or not I want to book the session or not. That way neither of us will in anyway have any hurt feelings about the session. A true GFE all starts with a conversation. If you can't have a conversation about expectations before booking the appointment, then how can you say you can provide a GFE session honestly.

[pyramider]

I hear GFE usually includes BBCR ...

[Sir Lancehernot]

See, that's the problem with the world. Apparently, girlfriends don't swallow; only porn stars and hooker-porn-star-wannabes do.

Gotta love the courtesy and respect.

[chicagoboy]

Originally Posted by Torre Tames

BELOW ARE THE ASSHOLE AWARDS OF THE DAY
and THE HEROS --

Is this going to be a regular feature in Dallas Coed? Will there be an awards ceremony?

[Guest122922]

ROFLMAO - yes yes!

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by Kendall4U

Dammit man! Stop with that shit already.



This is spot on! I love me some Eva

I wub me some Kendall4U!

Originally Posted by davidfree986

Yep, and it is the ATTITUDE that effects the ACTS.




Of course not and you did misread it. When a provider does not agree with a hobbyist's definition of GFE, then she can simply refuse to see him and hopefully, they both move on. So it has nothing to do with forcing a provider and her HAVING to give into any hobbyist's requests she is not comfortable with that wants to see her.

When a hobbyist lets a provider clearly know what he is seeking (what his definition of GFE is) and IF the provider knowing that agrees to set the appointment and does a session she gets paid for and does not perform to his satisfaction, that is what typically is called a NO recommendation on the review he writes and has every right to do so.

Other than getting a nut, most guys know and want what they like in a session and then there are others who just set an appointment, go with the flow and hope they get what they want. A guy who does not let a provider know what he wants in a session has absolutely nothing to bitch about if he is not satisfied because providers are not mind readers.

I appreciate your agreement. However, why must you always have the last word and puff conclusions up with so many additives? Either one sucks a cock passionately(GFE) or ferociously (PSE)...attitude. Simply put.

[rexdutchman]

+100%to INVISIBLE 1 he got it , just saying

[Guest110416]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

Either one sucks a cock passionately(GFE) or ferociously (PSE)...attitude. Simply put.

I wish those were the only two options providers chose from. If that were true, then there would be far less "NO" recommendation reviews and the drama on this site would have a big bite taken out it.

The other attitudes that you left out are the "I do not give a shit, you are nothing but a wallet", scripted/go through the motions and my favorite, "You want me to be more of an active participant in the session and not just lay there like a blow up doll?"

[Guest122922]

David - I am sorry you've had bad experiences while in the hobby.

Perhaps, if you used your charm and wit in a more positive way, you might get more willing participants that can do wonderful things for you....and I don't just mean stroke your dick, they can stroke your mind and intellect as well. Sometimes that can be very stimulating foreplay.

Try to be nice and drop the mike on being shitty and degrading to women.

You would be amazed the experiences you can have when a mutual respect is achieved.

I wish you the best my friend.

[Guest110416]

Degrading to women? How is letting a provider know what I like in a session and having the guts to tell the truth about lack luster experiences that I pay for being shitty and degrading? That is why guys fill out a profile and what this site is for.

If I was in RL picking a girl up at a bar or any other social activity, took her home or to a hotel to do BCD services, then I am inclined to let the evening takes its course and HOPE that she does what I like. But if not, then I can leave and not see her or have anything to do with her again.

In the hobby, things are different with the screening, reviewing, ect., and that difference is I am paying for a service, so I feel I can choose. If not, then maybe a hobbyist should just go down the list of providers in alphabetical order and hope for the best each time he see a provider. It has nothing to do with being shitty or degrading.

[Guest122922]

Maybe we can smoke a peace pipe some day and discuss it...

xxoo
T

[Vic Kosslovich]

It seems to me that if we try and come up with a definitive list of activities then:
a) we're never going to reach agreement
b) BBFS is a no=go for many of us. If you are offering that to others, I'll stay away
c) a lot of providers who are and should be considered GFE are going to suddenly find themselves missing one or two qualifications and then will be chastised if they still advertise as GFE without providing the full list.

To me (one man's opinion), in line with it being an attitude more than an act is the whole IOP issue. Regardless of what acts are performed if the IOP is missing or weak, then it's not GFE.

But again, I don't even expect everyone to agree that IOP is part of GFE. It's no BFD to me as long as my IOP includes some serious DFK.

EIEIO

Vic

[dianaares_x]

GFE is what each individual defines it as. It's as simple as that.
YMMV.

[Invisible1]

Originally Posted by dianaares_x

GFE is what each individual defines it as. It's as simple as that.
YMMV.

So how do you define it? Simple as that..... Or do you define GFE as YMMV?

[pyramider]

If that is not GFE then nothing is ...