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Old 12-21-2014, 04:24 AM   #31
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It's all a freakin illusion. What is your illusion, er, reality?
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:06 AM   #32
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Tune in next week to the ToYz style channel when we discuss collectable Coogi sweaters...of which I have five.
Speaking of Bill Cosby...

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Old 12-21-2014, 08:35 AM   #33
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Sure~as long as they don't smell all foo-foo. I've got about 8 different colognes, from green, blue, black, Armani, Hugo Boss, Alexander Julian, etc...and most new ones smell like a derivative of a citrus garden with cloves...new doesn't neccesarily mean better.
Toyz, don't you know nothing gets a woman going better than the distinctive fragrance of Hai Karate? I received a case back in the early 70s and still have a few bottles left, as I only break it out for "special" ladies.
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:44 AM   #34
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I agree with Toyz and Jane Doe. I have had three or four appointments in the last couple of years that have just fell spectacularly flat. As I was reading all of this, I was thinking of the reasons why. One of them we had tried to set something for quite some time. During this time, I would continually get one and two word emails late at night when I had continually told him that I am not a late night person. And, when I responded I would not get anything back until the next late night B call. I don't know how other ladies feel, but general politeness is big, big deal to me. I'm a consumer half my life as well, and I am always polite. At any rate, I mention all of this because I realized afterwards that instead of my anticipation building, my irritation had been building. I should have realized this and shut off communication after the first few communiques, but I didn't. When he got there, it was just a total flat line. Also, he was balding and was over-compensating by having extra hair in the back which he had in a pony tail. What's happening, Sonny Crockett? That shit just pissed me off, I'm not sure why.

Conversely, I have had a few dinner dates, extended appointments with men much older than I with whom I would have never have given a second glance to. But, they were so charismatic and lovely and charming that it did the trick and our BCD time was great. Charm goes a long way on both sides of the fence, I think. It's hard to completely reconstruct chemistry if there is none, but a little effort will usually get ya halfway there. Also, what Toyz said about smell. I loooove a good, subtle scent. Gets me going.

You can find something sexy in almost every man. If I'm having a hard time in that regard, I try and remind myself that its not about me. It's about making someone else feel aroused and special,etc. When I am really turned off to such a degree that the whole thing just kind of falls apart, its been because of something energetic. Their ego is pressing up against mine, and I find I'm getting into a whole mental eye roll situation.

I don't know it's a strange thing to do, you know. Just kind of inviting all of this diverse and unknown energy into your space and then then almost immediately engaging in something very intimate. I'm learning to pay a lot more attention to interactions before a meeting is ever set. Never did the course of true love or passionate pay for play run smoothly.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:47 AM   #35
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I couldn't agree more. Mutual esteem which can lead to true passion is often established in the tone and manner of the initial contact. Nothing kills a concupiscent womans lady boner faster than a crass, entitled, or time wasting man. For me, never wishing to speak for other ladies, one can add fumblers, vacillators, betas and cheapos to the list.

Ergo:

"Let's talk about how I don't wish to pay the cost of lovely, sexy intercourse with you. Will you possibly take half of your asking price? What would it cost for me to use you as a walking sausage pocket, your face as a receptacle for my never to be born babies for 15 minutes? In fact I'm not certain about if I even want to commit to an appointment right now so I'm just going to send you a lot of emails asking what you do and how it might or might not please me, did I mention I actually don't have to pay for sex? Really, I can get laid anytime I want. Did I mention I have monster in my pants? You girls like em big doncha? I know I requested an appointment and then ghosted. Twice. I'm just certain you want to impale yourself lustily and and authentically (no faking right?) upon my member now. Doncha? Hello?"

I am a naturally tactile, sensuous and passionate woman. I view this, like everything else I do as an art; a discipline in which I am particularly adept. My most bona fide authentically amorous encounters are with men who respect and respond to that fact and take it as seriously as I right from the beginning.

I dont know from experience, but I've been told- Addison, Claire, Mia Christine, Eve Adams, Jennslolli ,and here I CAN speak from experience- the ever exquisite Aphrodite. I understand they are true lovers to the nth degree.

Some women will make you feel like you're in Paradise. Some women will make you feel like you're in Detroit. Sample the above ladies and you cannot go wrong.
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:06 PM   #36
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I appreciate all of the responses but it didn't go in the direction I was hoping. I don't think the lack of IOP in most of my encounters had anything to do with me having bad hygiene or behaving arrogantly or being a selfish lover. While I'm no Fabio, I'm 6' tall, weight 165 lbs and have a lean runners build and do go the the gym a good deal, so I take good care of myself. I ALWAYS shower before each encounter with an escort and use a nice scented cologne . When I'm with an escort I always enjoy starting with some nice convo and its even better if the escort has some above average hosting skills and will offer a glass of wine or at least a drink while conversing, but this is sadly rare (why I don't know since its so cheap and such a fantastic ice breaker). I love to dote on an escort by offering to give them a nice massage if they like. During foreplay and sex the most arousing thing to me is the woman's sexual pleasure, not mine. I usually don't even care if I get a bbbj which is a "must have" for most men. I think I'm extremely considerate of my partner and focused on what pleases them.

So, while I appreciate the escorts chiming in about how it's often the men who are at fault for bad IOP, what I'm really looking for are names of escort FROM MEN who have actually experienced great IOP from an escort so I can expand my options. It would be nice if I could see additional evidence of this in the escorts reviews as well.

Thanks, Rocketeer
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:26 PM   #37
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Toyz, don't you know nothing gets a woman going better than the distinctive fragrance of Hai Karate? I received a case back in the early 70s and still have a few bottles left, as I only break it out for "special" ladies.


Hai Karate....worlds best aphrodisiac...
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:29 PM   #38
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I couldn't agree more. Mutual esteem which can lead to true passion is often established in the tone and manner of the initial contact. Nothing kills a concupiscent womans lady boner faster than a crass, entitled, or time wasting man. For me, never wishing to speak for other ladies, one can add fumblers, vacillators, betas and cheapos to the list ...

Some women will make you feel like you're in Paradise. Some women will make you feel like you're in Detroit. Sample the above ladies and you cannot go wrong.
Okay, so furst off, yer sayin' Ah ain't gots a sno-balls chance in hell o' puttin' in yer butt.

Fair enuff.

But as far as Paradise an' Dee-troit, Ah'll have yew know thet the 'rigin'l Robocop wuz one o' mah fav'rite movin' pitchers. It's a laff riot!
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:29 PM   #39
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Ah, well..if we have all responded thus it is likely because those who seek and want for passion are so often sadly unaware of what it takes to have such an experience.

But one must take your word that it is your wish to arouse pleasure in your partners and that at least you are cognizant of the basics of how of how to do so.

You have been given a great starting list. There will be very few men who wouldn't agree with the names I have posted though they may be loathe to share their cherished ones and ATFs with a new chap such as yourself. One cannot blame them for their reticence in that regard.

The research now is up to you.
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:36 PM   #40
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Since Miss V is refusing to explicitly toot her own horn I'll gladly go ahead and toot it. I can speak from experience that her IOP was extraordinary with me. .
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:37 PM   #41
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new chap such as yourself. One cannot blame them for their reticence in that regard.

The research now is up to you.
I must echo Dear V's message. Everything you need is in the reviews. Cliff notes "best of on demand" lists are for veterans who have earned those shortcuts. You've made a nice start, keep it up.

Go find some mongers who you think like...
Read their reviews...

But IOP is going to vary greatly. What might be an ATF for ME might be a MEH for someone else. And vice versa... Some like Fords, Some like Benz's...
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Since Miss V is refusing to explicitly toot her own horn I'll gladly go ahead and toot it. I can speak from experience that her IOP was extraordinary with me. .
Aww, that's so very kind. You make me nethers and me heart feel all melty.

Swoon...
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its even better if the escort has some above average hosting skills and will offer a glass of wine or at least a drink while conversing, but this is sadly rare (why I don't know since its so cheap and such a fantastic ice breaker).
Slippery slope for a provider. Not all mongers react equally to alcohol.
Once you break open a bottle with a new stranger in a discreet/intimate setting who knows where the session may go? In a perfect world you would both just relax a little and have fun.
Unfortunately all it takes for a negative personality change for some guys is one drink.
Other guys will keep refilling which definitely cuts into overhead if it's a decent wine.
The key element is here is that it's a private setting with an unknown client which means a vulnerable setting for the provider.

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what I'm really looking for are names of escort FROM MEN who have actually experienced great IOP from an escort so I can expand my options.
I believe that was indirectly addressed however the point they made was IOP with one monger is no assurance of IOP with the next because it is indeed a personal interaction based extra rather than a BBJ vs CBJ sort of thing.

Rather than throw out random names it made more sense to address the subject of how to inspire IOP from anyone you meet.


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I love to dote on an escort by offering to give them a nice massage if they like. During foreplay and sex the most arousing thing to me is the woman's sexual pleasure, not mine. I usually don't even care if I get a bbbj which is a "must have" for most men. I think I'm extremely considerate of my partner and focused on what pleases them.
I don't think a monger being a good or selfless lover is nearly as important to a provider as is his ability to make her feel good about herself.

Bottom line is don't treat her like a "Hooker" and she's less likely to treat you like a "John". That translates to almost guaranteed IOP.
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:51 PM   #44
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Slippery slope for a provider. Not all mongers react equally to alcohol.
Once you break open a bottle with a new stranger in a discreet/intimate setting who knows where the session may go? In a perfect world you would both just relax a little and have fun.
Unfortunately all it takes for a negative personality change for some guys is one drink.
Other guys will keep refilling which definitely cuts into overhead if it's a decent wine.
The key element is here is that it's a private setting with an unknown client which means a vulnerable setting for the provider.

And what if you are the 6th appointment of the day?

Shes all drunk and shit and slurring her words....""Shay babeee, you wanna fugg or just fool around"?

Kills a woody everytime.



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And what if you are the 6th appointment of the day?

Shes all drunk and shit and slurring her words....""Shay babeee, you wanna fugg or just fool around"?

Kills a woody everytime.


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