How many people will die in the USA from the new coronavirus by December 31, 2021??

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

In my non-professional opinion, the vaccine will make it a lot easier to calculate the actual number directly attributable by the deadline.

I'd substitute the word "estimate" for "calculate", and wholeheartedly agree. And happily now we have concrete reasons to believe most Americans who die of this disease will croak before 12/31/2021, the deadline.

[rexdutchman]

Don't scare the snowflakes , Thinking is very HARD

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Bump.



I'm sure Tiny will bump this a few more times.



Shocking to think that almost a third of a million would die in the U.S. alone. Second and third waves of infections and deaths will happen when governors ease restrictions. By New Year's Eve 2021, testing and treatment should finally be routine.

Listening to NPR or something on C-SPAN, I heard a Russian journalist explain the medical practices of physicians diagnosing cause of death. Generally, doctors claim a failure of a major organ or system as cause. Leaving lots of questions about statistics in their country. Maybe also in former Soviet strongholds. Thought it was interesting.

Bump. Tiny, don't you want a bump?



Daily Updates of Totals by Week and State

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

The provisional counts for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) deaths are based on a current flow of mortality data in the National Vital Statistics System. National provisional counts include deaths occurring within the 50 states and the District of Columbia that have been received and coded as of the date specified. It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1–2 weeks.

[eccieuser9500]

United States COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by State


https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...r100klast7days

Total cases are based on aggregate counts of COVID-19 cases reported by state and territorial jurisdictions to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) since January 21, 2020, with the exception of persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China, and Japan. All displayed counts include confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths as reported by U.S. states, U.S. territories, New York City (NYC), and the District of Columbia from the previous day. Counts for certain jurisdictions also include probable COVID-19 cases and deaths. Counts for NYC and New York State are shown separately; data for New York State show total cases and deaths for the state excluding data for NYC. COVID-19 case and death data that are not available to CDC are denoted by N/A.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Of course, like the election, it's all about the counting. A man dies i a motorcycle accident and he tested positive for Covid...a covid death or a motorcycle accident? We know which way the hospitals have been going. Money talks. Here's a neat stat, how many people die each year (and that's multiple years) from medical errors? Answer: about 250,000 every year. That's 4 million dead during Obama's administration and that doesn't even count the VA deaths he was overlooking.
So get back to me when the audit the Covid deaths. Two congressional representatives have submitted a bill asking for just that.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Bump. Tiny, don't you want a bump?

It's depressing eccieuser. You're the front runner, but now it's looking like adavs28 has a chance. If half of the people in this country are too stupid or brainwashed to get the vaccine, we could have a lot farther to go.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Of course, like the election, it's all about the counting. A man dies i a motorcycle accident and he tested positive for Covid...a covid death or a motorcycle accident? We know which way the hospitals have been going. Money talks. Here's a neat stat, how many people die each year (and that's multiple years) from medical errors? Answer: about 250,000 every year. That's 4 million dead during Obama's administration and that doesn't even count the VA deaths he was overlooking.
So get back to me when the audit the Covid deaths. Two congressional representatives have submitted a bill asking for just that.

All you have to do is look at excess death statistics, compare how many people die in 2020 to 2019/2018/2017/2016, etc. This shows the Covid death count is probably reasonable or low.

Yes, however, you can just argue that everyone in the USA dies of cardiac arrest, and there are no deaths from Covid.

[DesWad]

Herd Immunity will probably negate the "I don't care anymore" crowd.

Although IMO, the virus is weakening as we get closer to January 6th for some odd reason.

Whose numbers are the official ones being reported? I don't trust any news outlet. So we better get at least the source out up front. Harris will push for underreporting to strengthen her and Bit

175,000

[Strokey_McDingDong]

Fuck the police. Harris is a cunt.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

My prediction is by EOY 2021 we'll have 70,000 ventilators sitting around in the box, never opened.

It's EOY 2020 and we have 70K ventilators never used. What was once the downfall of the Trump Presidency never mattered. They were built, distributed and never used. Remember when Cuomo said "I don't want to decide who lives and who dies?"

Saw where we shipped 3K off to Malaysia or someplace like that a few days ago.

[The_Waco_Kid]

well ... seems them Russkies were sandbagging their numbers. who knew???


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...times-n1252461


Russia's Covid-19 death toll could be 3 times higher than reported

Questions have been raised about Russia's official Covid-19 death toll — it has the fourth-largest caseload in the world.


"That means the virus-associated death toll is at least 186,000, or about three times previously reported. It would also give Russia the third-highest Covid-19 death toll in the world.


The country's official death toll, reported on a cumulative daily basis by the government's coronavirus crisis center, stood at 55,827 on Tuesday."



anyone believe China's story of < 10,000?

didn't think so.

[Yssup Rider]

Anybody believe that Trump WON'T be moving to Russia immediately after Biden is sworn in?

Hell of a mess Twitler left the country in. But he'll be leaving right away to avoid prosecution.

BAAA BAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

anyone believe China's story of < 10,000?

didn't think so.

I would not be surprised that China is in the 500,000 - 1,000,000 range.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Anybody believe that Trump WON'T be moving to Russia immediately after Biden is sworn in?

Yes.

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

I would not be surprised that China is in the 500,000 - 1,000,000 range.

i'll go for 500,000 Alex.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

It's EOY 2020 and we have 70K ventilators never used. What was once the downfall of the Trump Presidency never mattered. They were built, distributed and never used. Remember when Cuomo said "I don't want to decide who lives and who dies?"

Saw where we shipped 3K off to Malaysia or someplace like that a few days ago.

Originally Posted by gnadfly

My prediction is by EOY 2021 we'll have 70,000 ventilators sitting around in the box, never opened.

Post #116. But I would like to get an article on your current claim before congratulating. Sir.