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Old 10-06-2013, 07:16 PM   #16
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I did read the article and you're still wrong.
It may be "still wrong" in EXNYer world but in the real world that I live in, it is never "wrong" when you capture a most wanted terrorist with long standing ties to al Qaeda ties

From the CNN article found below:

"It's a huge deal to get him," said CNN's Nic Robertson, who has long been covering al Qaeda. "He's a big player in al Qaeda (and) he is in one of the key target areas, the north of Africa."

Beyond any psychological impact on the terrorist group, al Libi's capture could potentially yield a wealth of information about al Qaeda's plans and capabilities. The terrorist network has shown particular strength of late in Africa.


"Clearly, he may have useful information about the strength of al Qaeda and the Islamists in Libya," Robertson said. "He is somebody who is senior within al Qaeda. He was well respected, a good operative."


Al-Shabaab long has been a target of Washington as well: It was designated a foreign terrorist organization in 2008. The group is seeking to turn Somalia into a fundamentalist Islamic state, though it has carried out attacks in other African countries as well.


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attack on Nairobi's Westgate Mall on September 21 thrust Al-Shabaab into the spotlight once again. Washington vowed to support Kenya's government after the bloody raid, which killed at least 67 people.

Way to go America!

U.S. forces strike in Libya, Somalia, capture al Qaeda operative


(CNN) -- In two operations in Africa nearly 3,000 miles apart, U.S. military forces went after two high-value targets over the weekend.

One operation took place early Saturday in the Libyan capital of Tripoli, when members of the elite U.S. Army Delta Force captured Abu Anas al Libi, an al Qaeda operative wanted for his role in the deadly 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.

In the second raid, a team of U.S. Navy SEALs in southern Somalia targeted the home of the top leader of Al-Shabaab, a terrorist group linked with al Qaeda.

Al Libi, 49, was returning to his house after morning prayers around 6:30 a.m. (Friday night ET) when a group of at least 10 men in four vehicles surprised him, his wife told CNN.

Umm Abdul Rahman said some of the men were wearing masks and some weren't. She said the unmasked men looked like Libyans to her and spoke Arabic with Libyan accents. She couldn't say whether the other men were Americans.

The capture was over very quickly, she said.

She disputed reports that her husband of 22 years was reaching for a gun when he was taken. She said he broke with al Qaeda in 1996 and had no role in the embassy bombings two years later, and he had even tried recently to clear his name.

The Saturday operation was conducted with the knowledge of the Libyan government, said one U.S. official. The Pentagon said the U.S. military was holding al Libi in a "secure location" outside Libya.

He eventually will be taken to New York, a source with knowledge of the capture and proceedings told CNN.

The Libyan interim government called the U.S. capture a kidnapping and has requested an explanation from Washington about the raid, the country's state news agency reported Sunday. Libya emphasized its citizens should be tried in Libya if they are facing charges, LANA reported.

President Barack Obama approved the two raids, monitored them closely and was updated regularly by homeland security adviser Lisa Monaco and his national security staff, National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden told CNN on Sunday.

"This operation should be a clear reminder that the United States will seek justice against those who would attack Americans, and never forgets those who are victims of terrorism," the White House said Sunday.

And in a written statement Sunday, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the raids "send a strong message to the world that the United States will spare no effort to hold terrorists accountable, no matter where they hide or how long they evade justice."

"We will continue to maintain relentless pressure on terrorist groups that threaten our people or our interests, and we will conduct direct action against them, if necessary, that is consistent with our laws and our values," Hagel said.

In the Somalia raid, local residents said the compound targeted by the Americans was the home of Al-Shabaab leader Mukhtar Abu Zubayr, also known as Ahmed Abdi Godane. While an Al-Shabaab spokesman has claimed Godane was the target of the attack, the U.S. military has not yet disclosed the target.

An administration official told CNN on Sunday that members of the U.S. Navy's SEAL Team Six -- the same unit that killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan in 2011 -- led the raid. The SEALs came under fire and withdrew before they could confirm whether they killed their target, a senior U.S. official said.

A second administration official said the commandos withdrew to avoid civilian casualties.

The operations were carried out even as polls show Americans are skittish about U.S. military involvement in overseas conflicts. This means others who might be in U.S. crosshairs could have more reason to worry, said retired Lt. Col. Rick Francona, a CNN military analyst.

"One (mission) could have gone without the other," Francona said. "But the fact that they did them both, I think, is a real signal that the United States -- no matter how long it takes -- will go after these targets."

Speaking to reporters at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Bali, Indonesia, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said the raids ought to make clear that the United States "will never stop in its effort to hold those accountable who conduct acts of terror."

"Those members of al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations literally can run," he said, "but they can't hide."

Al Libi, has been on the radar for years. He was on the FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" list, with a $5 million reward offered for information leading to his arrest or conviction.

He is alleged to have played a key role in the August 7, 1998, bombings of American embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. More than 200 people were killed and another 5,000 wounded in the Kenya attack; 11 died in the Tanzania incident.

Al Libi has been indicted on charges of conspiracy to kill U.S. nationals, murder, destruction of American buildings and government property, and destruction of national defense utilities of the United States.

As early as December 2010, Libyan authorities told a United Nations committee that al Libi was living there, even providing a Tripoli address for him.

U.S. officials wanted al Libi to face trial in an American court.

But, counterterrorism analysts told CNN, he may not have been apprehended at the time because of the delicate security situation in much of Libya. There, ex-jihadists -- especially those who once belonged to the Libyan Islamic Fighters Group -- held considerable sway after the ouster of longtime leader Moammar Gadhafi.

"It's a huge deal to get him," said CNN's Nic Robertson, who has long been covering al Qaeda. "He's a big player in al Qaeda (and) he is in one of the key target areas, the north of Africa."

Beyond any psychological impact on the terrorist group, al Libi's capture could potentially yield a wealth of information about al Qaeda's plans and capabilities. The terrorist network has shown particular strength of late in Africa.

"Clearly, he may have useful information about the strength of al Qaeda and the Islamists in Libya," Robertson said. "He is somebody who is senior within al Qaeda. He was well respected, a good operative."

Al-Shabaab long has been a target of Washington as well: It was designated a foreign terrorist organization in 2008. The group is seeking to turn Somalia into a fundamentalist Islamic state, though it has carried out attacks in other African countries as well.

The attack on Nairobi's Westgate Mall on September 21 thrust Al-Shabaab into the spotlight once again. Washington vowed to support Kenya's government after the bloody raid, which killed at least 67 people.


The Navy SEAL raid on Al-Shabaab took place before dawn Saturday (late Friday night ET) in the southern Somalian port city of Barawe. Abdiaziz Abu Musab, an Al-Shabaab spokesman, said at least one Al-Shabaab fighter was killed in the gunfight. But no U.S. personnel were injured or killed, a U.S. official said.

In recent months, Al-Shabaab's haven in south-central Somalia has been been increasingly squeezed as Kenyan forces fight the group from the south and African Union forces come down from Mogadishu, the Somali capital.

At the same time, Al-Shabaab has become even more closely aligned with al Qaeda. The two groups effectively merged last year, said CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen.

"This is a group that has adopted al Qaeda's ideology wholesale," Bergen said. "The reason they attacked the mall was notonly because it was Kenyan, but also because it attracted a fair number of Western businessmen and others living in Nairobi."

'Most Wanted Terrorist' al Libi nabbed in native Libya after years tied to al Qaeda
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Old 10-07-2013, 07:36 PM   #18
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I'm curious if anybody here would mind if the Libyan, Iranian, Somalian, Afgani or any other country's' government sent their special forces to America and killed a few of our innocent people in an attempt to capture or kill an American alleged of committing a terrorist attack in their country without our permission? Would everybody be okay with that?
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:18 PM   #19
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Marine task force on high alert after seizing al-Qaeda leader

By Jim Miklaszewski and Courtney Kube, NBC News

The U.S. has placed placed a beefed-up Marine quick-strike force on high alert to respond to any security threats after U.S. commandos captured a senior al-Qaeda leader during a weekend raid in Libya, a U.S. military official told NBC News on Monday.

Eighty Marines have been moved to Naval Air Station Sigonella on the Italian island of Sicily, bolstering 100 who are already there as part of Special Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response.

The task force — which was created after the September 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans — is designed to deploy rapidly to respond to a threat throughout the region, including attacks on U.S. embassies.

The redeployment is "in direct relation to the raid" Saturday in Tripoli, the Libyan capital, in which U.S. forces captured Abu Anas al-Libi, who had been wanted in the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the official said.

U.S. interrogators specializing in high-value targets will question al-Libi aboard the USS San Antonio, an amphibious helicopter carrier in the Mediterranean Sea, U.S. officials told NBC News, hoping for a better picture of al-Qaeda activities in or outside Libya.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...da-leader?lite

Way to go America!
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:35 AM   #20
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We got a terrorist. That should be the norm. This seems to be the only time that Obama gets to do a victory dance. The military that Obama despises is in the business of making him look good but he won't do shit to back them up. He had to be forced into paying them by the House and he still closed the commissaries around the country. I guess that is Obama's way of saying thanks military.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:57 PM   #21
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Bump, in spite of the above post by JDStupidfuck
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Old 10-09-2013, 01:58 AM   #22
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Now they bring the terrorist to the US, get him a lawyer, put him in pre trial holding for four years, and finally convict him of a criminal charge.

I was hopeful that the Bush doctrine was back. Find them, kill or capture them, interrogate them (if they're alive), and shit can them by letting some other country have them with a real good capital punishment record.
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I was hopeful that the Bush doctrine was back.
Is this the same "Bush doctrine" that you are wanting back that allowed OBL to remain free until he was finally killed and immediately fed to the fishes 27+ months after Bush left office?

How is it that you became known as JD Idiot anyway?
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....this particular al Qaeda terrorist has been on the wanted list since 1998.

capturing a top al Qaeda figure wanted for the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, a U.S. official said."
It's too bad that he with OBL and others .....

............... weren't captured, killed, or otherwise neutralized in 1998.
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Marine task force on high alert after seizing al-Qaeda leader

By Jim Miklaszewski and Courtney Kube, NBC News

The U.S. has placed placed a beefed-up Marine quick-strike force on high alert to respond to any security threats after U.S. commandos captured a senior al-Qaeda leader during a weekend raid in Libya, a U.S. military official told NBC News on Monday.

Eighty Marines have been moved to Naval Air Station Sigonella on the Italian island of Sicily, bolstering 100 who are already there as part of Special Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response.

The task force — which was created after the September 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans — is designed to deploy rapidly to respond to a threat throughout the region, including attacks on U.S. embassies.

The redeployment is "in direct relation to the raid" Saturday in Tripoli, the Libyan capital, in which U.S. forces captured Abu Anas al-Libi, who had been wanted in the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the official said.

U.S. interrogators specializing in high-value targets will question al-Libi aboard the USS San Antonio, an amphibious helicopter carrier in the Mediterranean Sea, U.S. officials told NBC News, hoping for a better picture of al-Qaeda activities in or outside Libya.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...da-leader?lite

Way to go America!
So, irrespective of all the denials and excuses ... it could have been done.
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It's too bad that he with OBL and others .....

............... weren't captured, killed, or otherwise neutralized in 1998.
It's also too bad that OBL wasn't captured, killed or otherwise neutralized in 2001.

It's also too bad that OBL wasn't captured, killed or otherwise neutralized in 2002.

It's also too bad that OBL wasn't captured, killed or otherwise neutralized in 2003. (MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHED!)

It's also too bad that OBL wasn't captured, killed or otherwise neutralized in 2004.

It's also too bad that OBL wasn't captured, killed or otherwise neutralized in 2005.

It's also too bad that OBL wasn't captured, killed or otherwise neutralized in 2006.

It's also too bad that OBL wasn't captured, killed or otherwise neutralized in 2007.

It's also too bad that OBL wasn't captured, killed or otherwise neutralized in 2008.

Bottom Line: OBL was killed in 2011 and now sleeps with the fishes!

End of OBL's dismal story!!!!!!!
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The right bitches if they use Marines they bitch if they use drones they just bitch.
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The right bitches if they use Marines they bitch if they use drones they just bitch.
"The right?" Those who were "CORRECT" about Libya wanted to USE THE MARINES!

They should have been effectively used in 1998 to execute an "arrest warrant."

Or the administration in 1998 ....

....................should have outsourced the task to the Israelis with a green light.
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"The right?" Those who were "CORRECT" about Libya wanted to USE THE MARINES!

They should have been effectively used in 1998 to execute an "arrest warrant."

Or the administration in 1998 ....

....................should have outsourced the task to the Israelis with a green light.


1998 1998 this is 2013 idiot You haven't been correct about anything. If you are a dem why are you jumping in on a comment about the RIGHT?
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I'm curious if anybody here would mind if the Libyan, Iranian, Somalian, Afgani or any other country's' government sent their special forces to America and killed a few of our innocent people in an attempt to capture or kill an American alleged of committing a terrorist attack in their country without our permission? Would everybody be okay with that?

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