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Old 07-23-2013, 12:24 PM   #16
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I dig your style, Tiffani.

The porn-star, jet-setting, enhanced assets and feigned interest in opera (although I actually do enjoy the opera myself) always seemed off, definitely not a fit for my lifestyle. Screw the swanky hotel and Louboutins, I want some modest bohemian love nest with fresh flowers, candlelight, great music, and a signature cocktail. A place to prance around in my vintage lingerie. I've mastered the saucier details but now I'm excited to master the providing of the atmosphere that provides a true escape for both my clients and myself. First things first, though!
Now I didn't say that! You gotta have a couple pair of Loubies in your arsenal. Lol just kidding. But I know a couple of ladies that create that Bohemian feel for their clients at a premium. Everyone has their niche environment.

I think a courtesan recognizes that the best thing to be is yourself. Men are interested in different types of women and experiences. For most, its finding comfort and class in the most unexpected places that makes your experience worth it.
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:13 PM   #17
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No silk stockings and Birks? Heh. I hear what you're saying and totally agree. (I'm also not a Birks girl.)
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:48 PM   #18
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I dig your style, Tiffani.

The porn-star, jet-setting, enhanced assets and feigned interest in opera (although I actually do enjoy the opera myself) always seemed off, definitely not a fit for my lifestyle. Screw the swanky hotel and Louboutins, I want some modest bohemian love nest with fresh flowers, candlelight, great music, and a signature cocktail. A place to prance around in my vintage lingerie. I've mastered the saucier details but now I'm excited to master the providing of the atmosphere that provides a true escape for both my clients and myself. First things first, though!

I would get addicted... instantly!
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Old 07-27-2013, 11:30 AM   #19
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Great post, Zabrina. I think there is room for wigglage, but I prefer the courtesan route myself.

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Now I hate using such cheesy outdated labels such as 'courtesan', but it's still the most well-known way to describe a certain experience

Of course to an inexperienced newbie words such as escort, gfe escort, courtesan can all mean the same thing. It can take several years of "experimenting" to discover the difference ...and there is a wide sky to earth difference

This is a general overview, by no means is it meant to be a hard and fast rule/limiting, but simply a generalization. Neither is it meant to state one is superior than the other. We are all different people with different needs, likes, dislikes, and should respect that



Escorts
- To be very frank, it is about money. main motivation, pleasure, desire, and the more the merrier. Often times, it is not a lifestyle, it is a job, work, with a schedule. Often times, as soon as the goal has been met (financial, educational, etc), they are happy to GTFO. Another word common with escorts is the specific "services" they provide. While there is a wide array of difference in standards and preferences of the lady, the main motivation is still money, in which respect the lady is probably willing to see a wide variety of people, whether there is mutual attraction, chemistry, etc are not the main criteria, it's a business to them. In terms of volume, they do tend to be higher volume, again the number can vary but you get the picture. Length of the "session" can vary from 15 mins - days really, but usually short sessions are the most popular,. There's not much else offered or expected than the physical presence + service. Rates can vary from very low to very high

The type of clients they typically attract can be serial hobbyists - men who prefer to try, dabble in ...something new often as they can. Such clients also empathize the importance of specific "services". Beauty + Services. To conclude we can say this is a relationship of the Atm machine and the Blow up Doll



GFE
escorts - Offer a little more of themselves, and strive to provide what it is called - a girlfriend experience. This can mean showing affection, conversation, a little deeper intimacy... it becomes less about offering/demanding specific "services", but more of an overall experience. Making the most money still has a high appeal, but they are usually a little more choosy and tend to ask a higher price. Volume can largely vary, from low-high

I think the above experiences are both widely sought - mainstream



dun dun dun enter the mysterious and hard to find - the Courtesan experience, well it's more of a lasting relationship than an experience ..

By the very nature, the root of this depends on being low-very low volume. the fewer suitors (notice I didn't say clients) the better in the sense that it is the only way to be able to provide what they offer. Courtesans are obviously known to have very high fees, however I would not refer to it as being a "hdh" which I view as just being high priced escorts.

They really empathize exclusivity and making a connection - mental, physical, emotional - sometimes even spiritual

Courtesans have a certain personality, nature, attributes ....(notice I didn't say looks)
The type of beauty these women have tends to very natural and authentic - which makes them stand out from the large pool of escorts who empathize marketing certain body parts, breast/ass size, how good they are in XXX! etc to draw in clients.

They are not all necessarily the most beautiful women, can be quite average/plain in appearance, yet there is something else there which draws you in

They usually don't market themselves aggressively, yet they do maintain a well-established presence - whether or not they are on vacation, taking some time off from this, they don't want to disappear/cut themselves off from their relationships. In other words, not 'fly by the night'.

Type of patrons they tend to attract are ones who are equally choosy, selective, have a certain standard, know exactly what they're looking for, can see and appreciate it when they find it, don't bother with anything else. Often times the lady will be the only one the gentleman is seeing/in a intimate relationship with (with the exception of the possible wife)

Exclusivity is favored by both parties, for the sake of the growing relationship as well health reasons

Notice how much I'm empathizing relationship. While there is a monetary transaction it is not seen felt to be the main reason why both people come and keep together. It is certainly important but more of the icing on the cake and the gentleman is viewed as playing a supportive role in the lady's life. Mutual respect, understanding is the underlying foundation

Unlike the Fantasy temporary gfe experience, this is often the closest to the real thing you can get - without the drama, commitment, etc

It is a lasting experience, and much like real life relationships, it can be very personal, a high level of trust is there, sharing of each others lives.

And it comes back to the importance of having a few suitors, because this type of relationship can be very draining, yet also deeply rewarding; there is so much invested

There is so much more to write about this, because there is always so much more discover, as far as you wish to take it
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Old 07-28-2013, 06:09 AM   #20
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Great post, Zabrina. I think there is room for wigglage, but I prefer the courtesan route myself.
Haha wigglage.... nice to hear from you again.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:08 PM   #21
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Courtesan...hooker...

Six of one, half dozen the other...

"The funny thing about that little white speck on the top of chicken shit. That little white speck is chicken shit too."
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:01 PM   #22
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Oh contraire........it is grey poupon
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:25 PM   #23
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Courtesan...hooker...

Six of one, half dozen the other...

"The funny thing about that little white speck on the top of chicken shit. That little white speck is chicken shit too."
It's all in how you package the Grey Poupon mon Cherie. You know that.
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:27 PM   #24
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Here we go again. Courteson-Sugar Babe packaged by another name. Let's face it. Some ladies are more than by the hour companions. Regardless of what you call it the results are the same. He is providing funds and material assets and she is providing sex. Fool yourself if you like but the only difference in your definitions is a matter of attitude. I don't think you will find a lady on this board who thinks they are a hooker. The GFE is very often there and there are very few who select only a few gentlemen they enjoy being with and provide for the man's intimate needs without hefty material compensation. The result is that those calling themselves courtesons usually have a few generous men that see them for a couple of hours every week or every other week. The lady will still dump her gentlemen if he either stops the financial gain or stops performing. You won't find much loving pure and chaste from afar here. For many ladies, I felt as if she was my GF for the time I was seeing her. After that, if I didn't provide material and emotional gains my GF would dump me or I would consider myself stalking. Those who know me wouldn't ever consider me a stalker. Therefore, I paid my way. So if you have a good attitude, you are a courteson. If you plan to just lie there and ask when I'm done, you are a hooker or an escort or whatever you would like to call yourself.
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:46 PM   #25
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This is my first time browsing the forums and this post caught my eye. I'd engaged in this kind of post many years ago about the definition. Zabrina's depiction of the differences was well presented and not snarky at least, though I don't agree in ful with it.

I use the expression "courtesan like" because I am somewhere in between GFE and courtesan. It's about making a connection for me and that preferably includes conversation, affection.

The dollars, as Tiffani Jameson suggested, do not a courtesan make.

High volume? What is the definition? Seeing several clients in a day? Seeing several in a week? Seeing several i a month? Some of us have many reviews but have always been fairly low volume by the standard of seeing only few people in a week, or month. and turning many down due to not finding that connection.

I would refute the idea that the relationship is "lasting" It could only be a one time meeting but the conversations, the level of intimacy, and the connection and affection, were present to describe the nuances that make a courtesan.

It becomes more than just the dollars that drive some of us. We truly enjoy the intimacy and the connections made, we don't care to act, wishing to actually make it real for our own pleasure and for pleasing those we are with, getting to know people beyond just the bedroom and as human beings who have interesting lives beyond our own to share with us.
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:04 AM   #26
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The dollars, as Tiffani Jameson suggested, do not a courtesan make.
The courtesans of the 19th century actually had a great deal of money. Many of them lived more comfortable than the bourgoisie. I understand the concept of a "modern day" courtesan, one who is more of a mistress than an escort/paid companion. But agreed, courtesans of our day don't have to charge exorbitantly to provide a courtesan experience.

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It becomes more than just the dollars that drive some of us. We truly enjoy the intimacy and the connections made, we don't care to act, wishing to actually make it real for our own pleasure and for pleasing those we are with, getting to know people beyond just the bedroom and as human beings who have interesting lives beyond our own to share with us.
Well said! The dollars and gifts are nice but the relationships I've forged with my patrons are priceless. I enjoy being a confidante.
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I like to smear peanut butter on my nuts and have my HDH like them clean........is that considered a "courtesan experience"?
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:40 AM   #28
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I like to smear peanut butter on my nuts and have my HDH like them clean........is that considered a "courtesan experience"?
Not unless the peanut butter is organic, and was purchased at Whole Foods.
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Dammit, I suspected as much
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Not unless the peanut butter is organic, and was purchased at Whole Foods.
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