Putting the feelers out for New Orleans!

[Paven]

Originally Posted by pornodave69

Any P411 member with at least a few OK's should not have to divulge any personal information. It defeats the whole purpose of using P411 in the first place. Their system is to verify that the hobbyist is legit and not dangerous based on other providers' experiences. That seems like a more secure and verifiable method of screening than knowing his full name and place of employment or any other screening questions a lady might have with no insight whatsoever as to how he handles himself with a lady.

If you're relying on the OK with the belief that the two of you will be compatible or you'll have a great time or something else, then you're using it wrong. You won't get that info from knowing any personal information either.

What is ok to one lady may not be ok to another. I've dealt with this first hand. When you start providing your time with strange men then you can make your own rules. If all one has is a guys p411 handle and he does a gal wrong how is he supposed to be caught and dealt with accordingly? Just because a guy has 10 OKs on his P411 doesn't mean much if he has bad intentions for the 11th lady. This is our lives at stake with every person that we meet. Take a look outside of yourself and put yourself in our place for a few moments. It will hopefully become clearer to you why some of us take screening as seriously as we do. There are a lot of nut jobs out there for sure.

[Arverni]

She's spot on correct with her screening procedure.

You don't have to give her your employment info if you have references - I just checked her sign up form. The only thing you HAVE to do - is give her your real name and I think that is entirely appropriate.

Ladies need to KNOW who is on the other side of that door before they open it. And, when the client KNOWS she knows his name - there's that much more incentive for him to behave himself.

Guys - if you don't want to comply with the lady's screening procedure then consider the fact that you ARE the exact kind of person she wants to screen out.

With the employment verification ... she looks newbie friendly ... what more could you ask for?

[Paven]

Originally Posted by pornodave69

That seems like a more secure and verifiable method of screening than knowing his full name and place of employment or any other screening questions a lady might have with no insight whatsoever as to how he handles himself with a lady.

That's all I'm going to say about that.

[Simplepleazures]

Originally Posted by pornodave69

Any P411 member with at least a few OK's should not have to divulge any personal information. It defeats the whole purpose of using P411 in the first place. Their system is to verify that the hobbyist is legit and not dangerous based on other providers' experiences. That seems like a more secure and verifiable method of screening than knowing his full name and place of employment or any other screening questions a lady might have with no insight whatsoever as to how he handles himself with a lady.

If you're relying on the OK with the belief that the two of you will be compatible or you'll have a great time or something else, then you're using it wrong. You won't get that info from knowing any personal information either.

I can't figure out this 'multi quote' function, so I will post twice. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Pornodave, you have to see it from the other side of the fence. First, say a guy has 10 OK's. Who's to say that he has seen 3 or 4 Ladies after that, and has not behaved?? How many Ladies has he seen who have NOT given an OK, for whatever reason. What happens if he misbehaves...what is her recourse? Call up one of his P411 references and yell at her? No. She has no recourse except to blacklist his ass all over the place. She may save another provider down the road, but she has no recourse.

Fortunately, for me, neither P411 or D-C is really 'regional' for me, so I don't get much from it. I WILL, however, offer a free trial to either site if we've met. We all have our own methods a of screening and we all have our own comfort zones and boundaries. For every 10 requests I get, only 3 are 'viable'. The other 7 have no interest in their safety, or mine. That's fine..go find someone else who won't ask for info. They better pray they don't walk into the middle of a sting!

For the most part, my visitors are Military or Businessmen, who have no issue with being screened, and I am told often about how they appreciate my attitude towards who comes to my location. They feel safer, I feel safer. Those who have no issue with a quick discrete call to work know I am serious about discretion and my surroundings, and they like that.

Ladies concerned with safety and discretion have much happier visitors. What can be better than that?

Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and opinions, but, you know what they say about opinions!!

[Simplepleazures]

Originally Posted by Arverni

She's spot on correct with her screening procedure.

You don't have to give her your employment info if you have references - I just checked her sign up form. The only thing you HAVE to do - is give her your real name and I think that is entirely appropriate.

Ladies need to KNOW who is on the other side of that door before they open it. And, when the client KNOWS she knows his name - there's that much more incentive for him to behave himself.

Guys - if you don't want to comply with the lady's screening procedure then consider the fact that you ARE the exact kind of person she wants to screen out.

With the employment verification ... she looks newbie friendly ... what more could you ask for?

There ya go..'more incentive to behave himself'. It's a shame more don't see it that way!
And 'newbie friendly' is wonderful! Unfortunately, these days, there are too many 'serial hobbysts' out there who's main objective is to visit and 'compare notes'. Not very attractive, but, it is what it is!

[pornodave69]

I certainly understand your desire to have other information and screening methods and you're entitled to do that any way you so choose. However, see it from our side - there have been numerous psycho ladies, just as there are psycho guys, who take a guy's personal information and stalk him, call his work and his family and make his life hell. What is our recourse for that? You won't give us your personal info, will you? Of course not.

I gave my personal info to the first 2 providers I ever saw because I had no other means of verification or screening. And in 5 years, 50 ladies and 33 OK's later I've never given it out since. There are a few ladies here and elsewhere that I've become very friendly with over the years who know my real name and I know theirs as well. No problem for me at all.

One of the basic premises of this profession is discretion and anonymity. That's why screening services exist. I totally understand the inherent danger and risks taken on your part. You can always contact the providers who gave OK's to get more info on the guy's personality or quirks. You'll get more helpful info from that, I imagine, than just knowing his name.

In the event that the guy with many ok's, or the guy you just screened through your methods, is a danger to you on your visit with him, besides going to the cops and admitting your profession and the events that took place what other recourse is there? True, he could be caught and dealt with, assuming he actually gave you real info, but passing your screening process won't prevent the event from happening in the first place. Crazy is crazy.

At this point, if my P411 status and the number of reviews I have here and being white listed on TER aren't enough to satisfy any lady's concerns or screening, it's not worth it for me to divulge any other information.

[Simplepleazures]

Originally Posted by pornodave69

I certainly understand your desire to have other information and screening methods and you're entitled to do that any way you so choose. However, see it from our side - there have been numerous psycho ladies, just as there are psycho guys, who take a guy's personal information and stalk him, call his work and his family and make his life hell. What is our recourse for that? You won't give us your personal info, will you? Of course not.

I gave my personal info to the first 2 providers I ever saw because I had no other means of verification or screening. And in 5 years, 50 ladies and 33 OK's later I've never given it out since. There are a few ladies here and elsewhere that I've become very friendly with over the years who know my real name and I know theirs as well. No problem for me at all.

One of the basic premises of this profession is discretion and anonymity. That's why screening services exist. I totally understand the inherent danger and risks taken on your part. You can always contact the providers who gave OK's to get more info on the guy's personality or quirks. You'll get more helpful info from that, I imagine, than just knowing his name.

In the event that the guy with many ok's, or the guy you just screened through your methods, is a danger to you on your visit with him, besides going to the cops and admitting your profession and the events that took place what other recourse is there? True, he could be caught and dealt with, assuming he actually gave you real info, but passing your screening process won't prevent the event from happening in the first place. Crazy is crazy.

At this point, if my P411 status and the number of reviews I have here and being white listed on TER aren't enough to satisfy any lady's concerns or screening, it's not worth it for me to divulge any other information.

Just an FYI, it has come to our attention today that a P411 members info got into the 'wrong hands' and the outcome was NOT good. So much for your 'screening services'. Same way the ID was mishandled, the 'sensitive info' of others is also at risk. Think about it.


MANY Ladies are now choosing to back away from those services. Would you rather have your sensitive info 'stored' somewhere (it is 'kept') or would you rather have it deleted? As far as psycho people..it goes both ways. I am blessed to say I have never EVER had a drunken or drugged up psycho show up at my place at 3am. Because I screen well all on my own! If you're seeing Ladies who turn out to be psychos, and abusing your info, you definately seek out thw wrong people..Just my .02!


Stay safe!

[Megan Love]

Originally Posted by LadyBJ

Just an FYI, it has come to our attention today that a P411 members info got into the 'wrong hands' and the outcome was NOT good. So much for your 'screening services'. Same way the ID was mishandled, the 'sensitive info' of others is also at risk. Think about it.


MANY Ladies are now choosing to back away from those services. Would you rather have your sensitive info 'stored' somewhere (it is 'kept') or would you rather have it deleted? As far as psycho people..it goes both ways. I am blessed to say I have never EVER had a drunken or drugged up psycho show up at my place at 3am. Because I screen well all on my own! If you're seeing Ladies who turn out to be psychos, and abusing your info, you definately seek out thw wrong people..Just my .02!


Stay safe!

You nailed it!!! Bravo....

[Arverni]

Originally Posted by LadyBJ

Unfortunately, these days, there are too many 'serial hobbysts' out there who's main objective is to visit and 'compare notes'. Not very attractive, but, it is what it is!

What exactly does that mean? What is a "serial hobbyist"? Is that a guy who sees a different girl each time? What's wrong with that?

I mean - I have heard that some ladies don't like "hobbyists" but when I listen to the reasons - it's mostly because "hobbyists" are networked and get the word out pretty fast on bad providers (as well as the good ones mind you). That's what it almost always boils down to.

And - I can assure you - the "main objective" of EVERY male hobbyist is NOT to take notes and visit. His main objectives are something much more carnal than that.

[Wiley64]

This thread is about Megan Love checking interest on her visiting. If you want to discuss screening start a new thread.

[Simplepleazures]

Originally Posted by Arverni

What exactly does that mean? What is a "serial hobbyist"? Is that a guy who sees a different girl each time? What's wrong with that?

I mean - I have heard that some ladies don't like "hobbyists" but when I listen to the reasons - it's mostly because "hobbyists" are networked and get the word out pretty fast on bad providers (as well as the good ones mind you). That's what it almost always boils down to.

And - I can assure you - the "main objective" of EVERY male hobbyist is NOT to take notes and visit. His main objectives are something much more carnal than that.

A 'serial hobbyst' writes and says 'I have 125+ reviews on xxx-site'. They're the guys who have enough 'disposable income' to see 3 providers a week. Hey, kudos to those who have that kind of $$ in this economy these days. Some Ladies LIKE that, many more don't. Yeah, word gets out on 'bad providers' real fast, that's why they either quit, or reinvent themselves. The reliable and established providers don't. If you don't think providers backchannel and network like you guys do, well, think again.

It comes down to opinions again. I can respect yours, but you have to respect ours.

[Simplepleazures]

Originally Posted by Wiley64

This thread is about Megan Love checking interest on her visiting. If you want to discuss screening start a new thread.

This thread was hijacked in the 3rd or 4th post! Perhaps you have the clout to have it closed if it's not deemed appropriate? A request has already been declined.


I'm just sayin'....

[pornodave69]

Originally Posted by LadyBJ

Would you rather have your sensitive info 'stored' somewhere (it is 'kept') or would you rather have it deleted? As far as psycho people..it goes both ways. I am blessed to say I have never EVER had a drunken or drugged up psycho show up at my place at 3am. Because I screen well all on my own! If you're seeing Ladies who turn out to be psychos, and abusing your info, you definately seek out thw wrong people..Just my .02!


Stay safe!

Right, like we believe you don't keep records? From what most ladies have told me, they have all kinds of info about their clients stored somewhere.

Regardless, I've avoided the crazy ones thanks to boards like this and by not giving out my info. I got in on P411 through a referral by a lady and I've never given them my personal info so I'm good there.

We all have to do what's best for us and what makes us feel safe.

[Wiley64]

Originally Posted by LadyBJ

This thread was hijacked in the 3rd or 4th post! Perhaps you have the clout to have it closed if it's not deemed appropriate? A request has already been declined.


I'm just sayin'....

I'm well aware of the request to close the thread. There is no issue with the original post and there is no need to close a thread as long as you stay on topic.

[Simplepleazures]

Originally Posted by Wiley64

I'm well aware of the request to close the thread. There is no issue with the original post and there is no need to close a thread as long as you stay on topic.

So, does Pornodave get an infraction too? Or just me?

Fwiw, had I KNOWN that you were a Mod, I would not have made that last post, I would have respected your request, AS A MOD. But nowhere does it say you are a Mod, nor have you replied to my PM.

I guess it is what it is.