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Old 05-29-2012, 06:14 PM   #16
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So you're ok with giving classified information to a Hollywood producer to make a propaganda film. Fine. Just checking. Thanks for your input.

How do you know he's not the 6th President to have done it?

You don't.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:39 PM   #17
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Doesn't matter if he is. You're ok with it.

If former presidents have leaked classified information for their own partisan purposes, does that make it ok for Obama to do it?

In your eyes, yes. Obama must be held to the same low standard we have set for others.

You're fine with that. Ok.

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Old 05-29-2012, 08:24 PM   #18
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Doesn't matter if he is. You're ok with it.

If former presidents have leaked classified information for their own partisan purposes, does that make it ok for Obama to do it?
Your interpretation is about as distorted as JD's Planned Parenthood post. They could have just as easily not "leaked" anything, and still received whatever "partisan" benefit you think the movie will provide. So maybe, just maybe, historical accuracy is the prevailing factor.

He hides stuff, you whine about how he's reached a new low. He shows some historical transparency, and you whine about how he's reached a new low.

Consistency is not your strong suit. Check that...when it comes to whining about everything and anything Obama does, well......

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In your eyes, yes. Obama must be held to the same low standard we have set for others.

You're fine with that. Ok.

When it comes to pretty mundane items like this, yeah, i'm ok with it.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:28 PM   #19
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The 3 stooges weigh in.

Anyone else notice their responses are always inversely proportional to the post they respond to?

Time to play Wack-a-Mole.

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Munchie misses the point. Intentionally. The Obamania has become terminal.

I missed a point that you made? Go figure. Could you state your point? Don’t bother. It couldn’t have been much of a point.
Like I said. Not a peep about prior assistance to Hollywood. No examples of released information detrimental to our security. No nothing except an uninformed opinion based on a level of ignorance of the subject matter that equals zero.
To sum up.
You still haven’t read any of the emails. As usual you have no examples or links, only your analysis of the situation made with none of the pertinent facts.

Easy to see how you have 8500+ posts. But as you well know (maybe not) 8500 X 0 = 0.

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Deny, obfuscate, deny, blame Bush, deny...............yada yada.........
Whirly displays his comprehension and reading ability again. While making claims with, as usual, not a single example to back up his statement, whirly proclaims to the world, “I have nothing to say!”
I gave specific examples, I gave an example of a past president’s actions dealing with classification of material, and I denied nothing except JD and cog having any real knowledge of a subject they posted on.
Now I deny you have a clue about the subject and I blame your parents for your ignorance and lack of compositional skills.
OK. Sorry about that. I’m sure your parents tried. As a proponent of personal responsibility I’m sure you have accepted that you are your own fault.

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Munchie afraid to go there. Not that I doubt your service but your attitude and lack of knowledge gives one pause. Of course you were only in long enough to claim you were a vet, not long enough to really be knowledgable.
First you said: "Munchie, more and more I am doubting you were ever in the military". Then as you desperately backpedaled you said: "Not that I doubt your service but your attitude and lack of knowledge gives one pause." Any examples with proof I was wrong? Sorry I’m hung up with that “proof” thing but it’s just so much of what you say is at best, bullshit. I’m sure you recognize my attitude as being the same as your students. You know, that “how the fuck did this guy get this job?” attitude. Your authority and seemingly absolute power of giving a failing grade means nothing to me.
In the real world we require proof when detrimental claims are made. When I claim that your statement, “Of course you were only in long enough to claim you were a vet, not long enough to really be knowledgable.” displays your ignorance on several levels, I will explain why.
First, one day in the service makes you a veteran. I was in for 3 years.
Second, you have demonstrated that being in long enough to retire does not guarantee someone becomes knowledgeable about the military, what compromises security, or common sense in general.
Third, as a teacher of our future generations, you can’t spell “knowledgeable’.

Back to the subject at hand.
Do you have a single example of operational security being compromised by these emails?

I didn’t think so.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:50 PM   #20
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[QUOTE=Munchmasterman;2744890]
Easy to see how you have 8500+ posts. But as you well know (maybe not) 8500 X 0 = 0.

Damn! Wish i'd thought of that one.
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:00 PM   #21
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According to Munchie's previous posts he did three years. I look upon a single enlistment like having a job you can't wait to get away from.
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Of course you do. If someone has reasons different from yours, your "brain" refuses to accept the information and you ad lib. You have demonstrated this many, many times. You miss out on a lot of the experience when you're counting the days. Someone who retired and never saw anyone do their term and move on to different things? Mister observant. Keep talking. Loose lips suck dicks. Someone who has had a chance to be in a leadership position and see the military experience from both sides (obeying and giving orders) has a much better idea of the military life. So? And your point? That you retired in place your first year in the service and had a 20 year "short" calendar? There can be modifiers like combat or emergency duties in a crisis but then again Munchie has never admitted to that either. Admitted? You don't make much sense in your choice of modifying words. I don't know whether is true but from his posts he sounds like a person who wanted to escape from almost the first day he joined up so he has a very different view from the so-called lifer or career soldier.
Something sounding a certain way to you doesn't mean shit to me. I would ask for examples but as you know only too well, a lying coward dies a thousand deaths. You are terrified of defending your statements. You talk shit but can't or won't back it up. A coward.
If only you would prove me wrong.
Please! One example.
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:49 PM   #22
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Ok, we'll make that two votes for leaking classified information to a Hollywood producer for partisan advantage as being ok.

Next?
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:07 PM   #23
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I think he got the point. The point is, you're little more than a boy crying wolf.

Every little thing you read about, you bring here, wave your arms in tired indignation and rant and rave. If that's not bad enough, most of the stuff you ramble on about is stuff that is so minor that it, or something like it, has probably been done by every Presidential administration for the last 240 years. We just didn't have the internet, and blogs, and 25,000 news sources making these mountains out of every mole hill until recently. And because of that, now all of a sudden, it all means the pending end of the Republic unless we get rid of this commie, fascist, socialist dictator. Just like it meant the pending end of the Republic if we didn't get rid of the last fascist dictator war criminal. Or the commie, fascist, socialist womanizer before him. And on and on and on.

Your schtick is long past getting pretty tired.
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:18 AM   #24
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Ok, we'll make that two votes for leaking classified information to a Hollywood producer for partisan advantage as being ok.

Next?
And those same two votes for you being an oblivious buffoon.
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:56 AM   #25
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Ok, we'll make that two votes for leaking classified information to a Hollywood producer for partisan advantage as being ok.

Next?
Look out 10000!

(10000 X 0 = 0)
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:49 AM   #26
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Well I can't be expected to strain through all the shit you put out so make it easy for me; tell in one concise statement what it is that you want me to prove or disprove without commentary or insult. Do you think you can do that? In a day or two when I get to it I will answer you.

By the way, I don't back pedal. It is called sarcasm. You might try looking it up.
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:11 PM   #27
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Munchie afraid to go there. Not that I doubt your service but your attitude and lack of knowledge gives one pause. Of course you were only in long enough to claim you were a vet, not long enough to really be knowledgable.
I have responded to this. You ignored my requests for proof.
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According to Munchie's previous posts he did three years. I look upon a single enlistment like having a job you can't wait to get away from. You miss out on a lot of the experience when you're counting the days. Someone who has had a chance to be in a leadership position and see the military experience from both sides (obeying and giving orders) has a much better idea of the military life. There can be modifiers like combat or emergency duties in a crisis but then again Munchie has never admitted to that either. I don't know whether is true but from his posts he sounds like a person who wanted to escape from almost the first day he joined up so he has a very different view from the so-called lifer or career soldier.
I responded to this. You ignored my requests for proof in statements in which I pointed out you wouldn't know the truth if it bitch-slapped you for telling it once.
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Well I can't be expected to strain through all the shit you put out so make it easy for me; tell in one concise statement what it is that you want me to prove or disprove without commentary or insult. Do you think you can do that? In a day or two when I get to it I will answer you.

By the way, I don't back pedal. It is called sarcasm. You might try looking it up.
You're deflecting the fact you don't answer claims you are a liar. You make statements that are false, you are called some type of flaming asshole, and then you are asked for any proof or example that you are not the liar you seem to be. Now you act like I have not made any "concise" statements requesting proof from you.
So add stupid to your resume. No, no don't thank me. You've earned it.

BTW Since I provided an example of you backpedaling, I stand by my claim.

I know sarcasm and you don't get to use it. Because for sarcasm to work, you have to be correct often enough that it is obvious that an apparently out of character statement or reversal of a previous stance is in fact, sarcasm. And not you being wrong......again.

I will admit that you are not that stupid if you answer previous claims you are a liar.
Until you prove otherwise, you are a lying POS.
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:14 PM   #28
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The US Public cannot see these documents, but if you are going to make a film that paints the President in a positive light, you apparently have access to anything you want. I know some of you will disagree, but I think the public should have first right to these documents if they are going to be released for other than national security.

Even if we have to replace this guy with Romney (God forbid), he simply must be replaced.

http://truththeory.com/2012/05/28/ob...opaganda-film/



If you got online you could buy the blue ray version from China.
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:01 PM   #29
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I have responded to this. You ignored my requests for proof.


I responded to this. You ignored my requests for proof in statements in which I pointed out you wouldn't know the truth if it bitch-slapped you for telling it once.


You're deflecting the fact you don't answer claims you are a liar. You make statements that are false, you are called some type of flaming asshole, and then you are asked for any proof or example that you are not the liar you seem to be. Now you act like I have not made any "concise" statements requesting proof from you.
So add stupid to your resume. No, no don't thank me. You've earned it.

BTW Since I provided an example of you backpedaling, I stand by my claim.

I know sarcasm and you don't get to use it. Because for sarcasm to work, you have to be correct often enough that it is obvious that an apparently out of character statement or reversal of a previous stance is in fact, sarcasm. And not you being wrong......again.

I will admit that you are not that stupid if you answer previous claims you are a liar.
Until you prove otherwise, you are a lying POS.
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:13 PM   #30
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Munchie, you've already been recorded as favoring the leaking of classified information for partisan purposes. That answers the only the question on this thread. Time to move on unless someone else wants to take a stand.
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