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Jackie S · 03-08-2012, 08:20 PM

Having a Hooker buy me something would be like my one of my kids, (years ago), buying me something. Hell, I gave them the money in the first place.

Hey, keep this shit in perspective. They furnish the product, we pay for the product.

So you say, "well, what did your ATF do for you that was so darned good".

She did what she is supposed to do. She Fucked me silly.

Guest041413-2 · 03-08-2012, 08:31 PM

What made you my ATF, stay that way (best gift ever).
Don't let yourself go!
Keep the passion.
Stay sexy. Remember how I met you and how you looked. Don't forget that nor take it for granted.
Stay in shape. Take care of yourself physically, emotionally and financially. If you don't, no way you will remain ATF material.
Hygiene. Hygiene. Hygiene.
Distance and time builds fondness. Don't take me for granted. Don't hawk me.
Be honest. If you want me to do something new, differently or better, coach me. But, be honest.
Know my desires and respond to them. Remain open. Butt, most importantly, always be a Freak! with me. I love women. Nothing is disgusting. You are beauty!
As stated above, we came to fuck. Never forget that! Fuck me silly. I love that.

Wakeup · 03-08-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Old-T

Quite a different pair of views. Why do I have the distinct feeling Willen has a higher percentage of good sessions? Hmmm....

It's really a shame when some folks refuse to acknowledge that some people in this corner of the world actually DO like each other, and can mix respect, friendship, etc., and still keep things professional.

So why would you assume that? Is there some reason I can't have those things one hour at a time instead of continuing them throughout the rest of my life?

tonytiger4u · 03-08-2012, 10:21 PM

Yes. All the time!

the.namssa · 03-08-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycz

If your ATF does not make you feel special then what in the hell is she doing being your ATF! There are some out there who really do care and that is no BS. Sure it a biz but we are freakin people and not all only care as long as the cash is there.

Now that is something special in a ATF!

Agree 100% with jimmycz on this matter.

The answer to the question is "Yes!", and for quite some time.

Old-T · 03-08-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Is there some reason I can't have those things one hour at a time instead of continuing them throughout the rest of my life?

Of course you can. Nothing wrong with that at all. You have every right to forget the lady's name & face 30 seconds after you leave. No one--including I--said there was anything wrong with that.

The only thing I find "wrong" is your seeming belief that since you have/desire no connection with the ladies you have seen, then there can't be/shouldn't be a connection between others. That every "act of kindness" in this business is a sham. That you feel the need to take a positive topic/thread and essentially say "How can you be so stupid to think any lady gives two shits about you!"

Put this business aside, you imply--no, you say--that any nice gesture that costs less than what a someone has paid out is clearly an insincere gesture on her part. If a car dealer sends me a bottle of whisky it's insincere because it costs less than the car. If a grown child gives a parent a present costing less than the college tuition the parent paid for, the child clarly doesn't have any real feelings for the parent.

That cynical attitude is what I was commenting upon.

cumalot · 03-08-2012, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Old-T

Of course you can. Nothing wrong with that at all. You have every right to forget the lady's name & face 30 seconds after you leave. No one--including I--said there was anything wrong with that.

The only thing I find "wrong" is your seeming belief that since you have/desire no connection with the ladies you have seen, then there can't be/shouldn't be a connection between others. That every "act of kindness" in this business is a sham. That you feel the need to take a positive topic/thread and essentially say "How can you be so stupid to think any lady gives two shits about you!"

Put this business aside, you imply--no, you say--that any nice gesture that costs less than what a someone has paid out is clearly an insincere gesture on her part. If a car dealer sends me a bottle of whisky it's insincere because it costs less than the car. If a grown child gives a parent a present costing less than the college tuition the parent paid for, the child clarly doesn't have any real feelings for the parent.

That cynical attitude is what I was commenting upon.

Right on Old-T, I couldn't have said it better. I agree 100%....

canuckvic · 03-09-2012, 01:47 AM

For me, yes. This is one of the reasons she is my atf, I do things to make her feel special and she does for me too. I won't give details but as atf's we do and it's absolutely wonderful to give and to receive!

Bobave · 03-09-2012, 03:04 AM

I've seen my latest ATF for over a year, from 3-4 times/month. I've consistently given her gifts, extra help, etc. during that time and she has shown progressively less consideration for me in return. It occurs to me that I have moved into doormat territory and it is time to look elsewhere.

charlestudor2005 · 03-09-2012, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobave

I've seen my latest ATF for over a year, from 3-4 times/month. I've consistently given her gifts, extra help, etc. during that time and she has shown progressively less consideration for me in return. It occurs to me that I have moved into doormat territory and it is time to look elsewhere.

It appears that an ATF relationship can become more like a marriage. And a lot of the descriptions in this thread reflect a marriage-type relationship. I'll pass. That's not a relationship I aspire to. To those of you who have ATFs or ladies you consider to be "regulars" all I can say is "SUCKER."

Old-T · 03-09-2012, 06:50 AM

Some marriages work out well, some don't.

Some friendships last, some don't.

Some business relationships work, others don't.

ATF relationships are the same.

Jackie S · 03-09-2012, 08:22 AM

The question is, what did you expect in return for all of the things you have done for her.

This is what I mean by keeping things in perspective.

It's like the old story of the guy who found the baby Rattlesnake. He took it home, built it a nice place to live, fed it, took care of it, and developed what he thought was a relationship. Up untill the time the snake bit him. As he lay dying, he asked, "why"? The snake simply said, "I'm a Rattlesnake".

Regardless of what you do for a Hooker, never forget that she is still a Hooker. If you always remember that, trust me, you will have a lot more fun.

Outdoorsman · 03-09-2012, 11:22 AM

Does not matter to me that she is a hooker. For me that is not the issue. I understand what Bobave is saying, some women, appreciate their clients, some take us for granted. Sounds like he is doing the smart thing and moving on cuz he was being taken for granted and not appreciated.

Do I appreciate my big clients, damn straight I do!!! Do they get little perks and extra mile, absolutely, that is business. So, if I paying a lady $2k per month or even $1.2K per month because I see her so often, and I do little favors for her. It is nice to know I am appreciated that's all. Some hookers have stopped dressing up for me, one went into bathroom for 30 minutes during our hour and these were repeat visits, never happens on first visit. and then these ladies ask why I do not see them anymore, Really?? Gotta ask that question, they took me for granted and thought because they were beautiful and I had see them 10 times already I would come back no matter what. Not true, and they lose a regular, in me, and all the income associated with that, that simple.

I had one lady, and I will never forget this -ever!!! When I arrived, there was a Saints gift bag on the dresser and she was dressed in Saints clothing. She had a gift for me in the bag which was a coffee mug with Saints emblem and forest background due to my handle being "Outdoorsman" and my avatar being a Saints logo. That my friends is customer appreciation!!! Her total cost may have been $30 and an hour of drive time and in store. That is really going the extra mile to show her appreication to me.

Like JOhn Travolta said in some movie. I am not expecting... just hoping. I expect one hour of fun when I pay for one hour and that's it but if she goes the extra mile she will earn more than the mere bucks for that one hour, that's how she becomes an ATF.

tonytiger4u · 03-09-2012, 03:07 PM

I really suck at receiving gifts. It is so much easier to give them.

Old-T · 03-09-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

I had one lady, and I will never forget this -ever!!! When I arrived, there was a Saints gift bag on the dresser and she was dressed in Saints clothing. She had a gift for me in the bag which was a coffee mug with Saints emblem and forest background due to my handle being "Outdoorsman" and my avatar being a Saints logo. That my friends is customer appreciation!!! Her total cost may have been $30 and an hour of drive time and in store. That is really going the extra mile to show her appreication to me.

Exactly the kind of thing I think many of us appriciate and are talking about here.

--The wallet with my initials on it--that happen to be her initials as well

--A pink Rams t-shirt for a lady who is an unabashed rams fan

--My favorite beer waiting for me, one that takes a bit of searching to find

--An over night toiletry bag from a lady on our first over night

--A massage certificate for a fiend and her daughter to celebrate their birthdays together (they have the same birthday)

These are generally small things, but they not only say "thanks, I appriciate you", but also say "I took the time to listen, and you're woth my time to do something customized for you.