Waste Fraud and Abuse

[brasil]

Originally Posted by heavenlysparrow

So the 80% savings was how much compared to the 20% of mistakes.

You guys are f ing amazing. Do any of you actually work or all just employed by unions.

Do any of you dems actually understand how running any business works?

You execute, check results and adjust, something this administration is doing very well while others failed miserably. Most politicians say here's my idea who cares about what happens.

This is the first time in...probably forever your seeing adjustments on the fly. This is how real business is ran, and yes the USA is a business.

DODG is saving little, if anything. It is eliminating programs and agencies it does not like for ideological reasons, and then labelling those programs as "fraud, waste and abuse." So, for example, a program that includes any action to study or address health disparities gets eliminated on grounds of it being DEI- tainted. And anything that mentions "climate change" will get axed to placate donors from the oil companies. Etc., etc.

"Savings" from randomly and arbitrarily firing employees with no performance deficiencies is no way to run a business and certainly not the government. The shit may take a while to hit the fan, but sooner or later there will be a negative impact on government services that will be felt by the public. Whatever short-term savings that result from this rampage will cause costly damage down the road. DODGE itself is a wasteful, fraudulent and abusive entity.

[elghund]

Originally Posted by Flair4Drama

The meme is a vehicle.
Attributed or not, the following remains true and is the crux of the problem: And by "You" I mean yinz

You don't want DOGE -- that is not a lie and you've all been saying it

DOGE is cutting waste fraud and abuse

apparently you want DOGE to stop cutting waste fraud and abuse.

Sounds exactly like you want MORE waste fraud and abuse.

Pretty simple stuff

“The meme is a vehicle”……….

Translation: LIE


Your broad stroke assumptions are also a lie. You have no facts to back up anything you allude to.

[brasil]

Originally Posted by lilylivered

Why all the hate towards Elon
Explain that.....
He only finds what the rats are doing
All the hate and protests ABSOLUTELY PROVE that the libs want their money laundering and waste to go on
Or show me some pretzel logic that supports your case....

I just posted this in another thread, but I guess it bears repeating here.

DODG is saving little, if anything. It is eliminating programs and agencies it does not like for ideological reasons, and then labelling those programs as "fraud, waste and abuse." So, for example, a program that includes any action to study or address health disparities gets eliminated on grounds of it being DEI- tainted. And anything that mentions "climate change" will get axed to placate donors from the oil companies. Etc., etc.

"Savings" from randomly and arbitrarily firing employees with no performance deficiencies is no way to run a business and certainly not the government. The shit may take a while to hit the fan, but sooner or later there will be a negative impact on government services that will be felt by the public. Whatever short-term savings that result from this rampage will cause costly damage down the road. DODGE itself is a wasteful, fraudulent and abusive entity.

[Flair4Drama]

Originally Posted by elghund

Translation: LIE

So you are for DOGE?

Or you are for waste fraud and abuse?

[Flair4Drama]

Originally Posted by brasil

DODG is saving little, if anything. It is eliminating programs and agencies it does not like for ideological reasons, and then labelling those programs as "fraud, waste and abuse.

521 Billion with a B.... is saving a little???

[brasil]

Originally Posted by Flair4Drama

521 Billion with a B.... is saving a little???

Would love to see an independent audit. Would probably turn out to be minus 521 B, lol.

[Flair4Drama]

I used the lesser figure.
The real savings will end up being a Trillion.... that's witha T

[brasil]

I was incorrect to speculate that "shit may take take a while to hit the fan." It looks I underestimated the timeline.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/reti...b716351b&ei=25

[newcpl]

Some of the Waste and Abuse money they found is being put to good use. A Parade for Trumps 79th birthday. You really can't complain about that can you?
Shouldn't cost too much.

[brasil]

Originally Posted by Flair4Drama

I used the lesser figure.
The real savings will end up being a Trillion.... that's witha T

Thank you for that independent audit.

[brasil]

Originally Posted by newcpl

Some of the Waste and Abuse money they found is being put to good use. A Parade for Trumps 79th birthday. You really can't complain about that can you?
Shouldn't cost too much.

Speaking of parades, and wasting money, I would welcome a parade to celebrate Trump's or anyone's birthday at a "gentleman's" club. However, given the sorry state of Buffalo's clubs at this time, it would make more sense to have it across the border in NF, Ontario. However, I suspect that we might be denied entry to Canada, and more probably, we might end up in El Salvador upon seeking reentry to WNY.

[elghund]

Originally Posted by Flair4Drama

So you are for DOGE?

Or you are for waste fraud and abuse?

Since you have admitted to the fact that you post lies and false information (The meme is a vehicle….)……The answer to your question calls for more complexity than your false memes.

I am for finding, and then correcting waste in any government expenditures. I am against the way that Trump and Musk are doing it.

Abuse and fraud claims are nothing without proving that it exists. You can’t prove it by a blowhard screaming “There is abuse and fraud”…….you need a non-political investigation to prove fraud, and then prosecute people who were willingly defrauding the government.

Abuse is the same…..investigate, prove the claim and take correct legal action.

DOGE can’t prove any of the numbers they say they have found

https://fortune.com/2025/03/13/doge-...res-elon-musk/

DOGE is a scam. And, again, I would be for any Non-Partisan investigation into potential waste in the government. Handled within the law.

[newcpl]

Elghund that is by far the most acurate and best post about all this bs we have been fighting about. It also covers "why the hate for Musk".
Instead of parading around like a clown with a chainsaw.

[Flair4Drama]

Originally Posted by elghund

Since you have admitted to the fact that you post lies and false information (The meme is a vehicle….)……The answer to your question calls for more complexity than your false memes.

incorrect on every level

I am for finding, and then correcting waste in any government expenditures. I am against the way that Trump and Musk are doing it.

Can't have it both ways. Your party gad 4 years to cut the waste fraud and abuse.... and your party failed

Abuse and fraud claims are nothing without proving that it exists. You can’t prove it by a blowhard screaming “There is abuse and fraud”…….you need a non-political investigation to prove fraud, and then prosecute people who were willingly defrauding the government.

You do not

Abuse is the same…..investigate, prove the claim and take correct legal action.

The country is 35 plus TRillion (With a T and an R). That good with you? Massive STINK needs ,assive and uncinventional actions. Conventional actions has not worked in any way shape or form. Doing it YOUR way will take decades. It needs to be addressed now.... and it is

So so sorry that doesn't work for you. But as someone once boasted -- Elections have consequences....

So I'll go out on a limb here and guess you are FOR waste fraud and abuse.

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[brasil]

Originally Posted by Flair4Drama

So I'll go out on a limb here and guess you are FOR waste fraud and abuse.

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Please see post #18 in this thread for my rebuttal.