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11-06-2021, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... It's Vita's thread... YOU can badmouth the article,
but don't badmouth Vita for posting it.
Are any o' YOU attacked when YOU start a new thread??
(uh... Oeb don't count )
... Lighten up, lads... For crikey sake...
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It might be his thread Salty, but he's praising gumment overreach with their never ending money grab...this is a pure leftist dream!!
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11-06-2021, 01:18 AM
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Well, if the OP is true...big if... then he doesn't understand the problem. The problem is people. There are not enough people to move the cargo 24/7 at a high rate. There are not enough truckers to drive the loads away. The fact that the union has set us up to fail just aggravates the situation; no one by union people can move cargo off a ship, no one but union people can truck cargo out of a shipyard (even if they drop off the trailers at a third party site for non-union truckers to take the load), no union people can be made to work extra hours if necessary. So let's add a few (penalty) to the cost of doing business. That will only be added to the price of the contents for the consumer to pay in the end. The company suffers not a whit.
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11-06-2021, 04:49 AM
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LOL, I have to laugh, but really cry that anyone thinks the Biden/Harris proposal will do anything except create more chaos.
It does nothing to address the real problem, government over regulation by idiots that don't have a clue how to do anything.
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11-06-2021, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FatCity
You're gonna have to explain how adding an additional layer of unnecessary bureaucracy somehow helps ....
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This beginning phrase contains two insurmountable tasks ...
... for the OP.....not to mention the demented fool for whom he sings a daily praise of worship.
#1: "... have to explain ..."
#2: "... unnecessary bureaucracy somehow helps..."
The OP ignores the realities of Virginia et al ... and day dreams about a Socialistic Fantasy World to which he aspires.
What he hasn't figured out yet, and won't ever, those illegally invading our Southern Border are FLEEING A "Socialistic Fantasy World"
.... IN WHICH THEY WERE BORN .... AND COMING FOR THEIR $450,000 US bribe to infest this country.
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11-06-2021, 07:15 AM
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... It's Vita's thread... YOU can badmouth the article,
but don't badmouth Vita for posting it.
Are any o' YOU attacked when YOU start a new thread??
(uh... Oeb don't count )
... Lighten up, lads... For crikey sake...
### Salty
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SA - vm did not bother to post any reference for teh nonsense communist propaganda he posted
It is nonsense - kalifornia law (AB5) and union resistance to modernization and refusal to work are a major part of teh Port issues. The Feds - per teh constitution - control Interstate Commerce - and should take control of teh port and force modernization and efficiency.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...have-had-impa/
Fuck teh Unions - they are all about high pay for no work.
Fiden won't do that due to kalifornia socilaist state being a major supporter - along with nazi pelosi and her San Fran shit hole.
Perhaps someday - a democraticommunist will figure how to reference a post.
I am not optimistic
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11-06-2021, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
This beginning phrase contains two insurmountable tasks ...
... for the OP.....not to mention the demented fool for whom he sings a daily praise of worship.
#1: "... have to explain ..."
#2: "... unnecessary bureaucracy somehow helps..."
The OP ignores the realities of Virginia et al ... and day dreams about a Socialistic Fantasy World to which he aspires.
What he hasn't figured out yet, and won't ever, those illegally invading our Southern Border are FLEEING A "Socialistic Fantasy World"
.... IN WHICH THEY WERE BORN .... AND COMING FOR THEIR $450,000 US bribe to infest this country.
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they're fleeing from corruption and high crime.
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11-06-2021, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
a union produced news letter is an un-biased source of factual information? Good grief man, you couldn't have shown yourself to be more biased and gullible than you just did. Union trade pages indeed.
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Good grief ! This has nothing to do with unions. You don't know there are trade publications and magazines ? Building trades, entertainment trade, trucking industry - the list goes on and on.
This is a fact sheet, not an opinion piece. It states what the West Coast Container Excess Dwell Fee initiative is.
It can be seen in the trade publication worldcargonews.com.......grain net.com. Also portoflosangeles.org...and many others.
And yet another member here who replied:
"Fuck teh Unions - they are all about high pay for no work."
Good grief !
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11-06-2021, 09:20 AM
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It’s a broken record.
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11-06-2021, 09:58 AM
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AGAIN
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
It states what the West Coast Container Excess Dwell Fee initiative is.
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Originally Posted by FatCity
Demurrage fees already fucking exist.
Its the solution of a child
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11-06-2021, 10:25 AM
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11-06-2021, 10:41 AM
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AGAIN
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If you have a better solution to a problem that has existed for years and growing, let's hear it.
If not, you could wait and see how this works, since it has been in effect for how many days so far....5 ?
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11-06-2021, 10:57 AM
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If you have a better solution let's hear it.
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address the root cause = hysterical "Pandemic" restrictions on ALL businesses. THAT is the reason we have had freighters moored in the gulf of every port city since 2020 and also why the American economy has been in a nose dive
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If not, you could wait and see how this works, ?
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wait and see how something that already exists works?
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The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic.
First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid.
If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about.
Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day.
The liberal had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day. Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.
I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.
Gradually I began to hate them.
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11-06-2021, 11:00 AM
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biden working to solve problems he created.
lolling
biden has shatted the bed biggly
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11-06-2021, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FatCity
address the root cause = hysterical "Pandemic" restrictions on ALL businesses. THAT is the reason we have had freighters moored in the gulf of every port city since 2020 and also why the American economy has been in a nose dive
wait and see how something that already exists works?
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You didn't read or don't understand the new fee structure. The new fee structure did not exist before. Demurrage has existed with different dates and rates from the ocean carriers.
You didn't pay attention to the new jobs report and the all time record highs in the stock market. A nosedive ?
You don't provide an alternative solution.
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11-06-2021, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
biden working to solve problems he created.
lolling
biden has shatted the bed biggly
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Couldn't be further from the truth. Port congestion has been getting worse for years.
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