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[Unique_Carpenter]

Sienna,
It may not be in the ladies room as her eccie account went inactive a while back.
All I will say in the open is that a certain ahole better have left town.
And, yes a clear reason that screening exists, and even with decent screening, sometimes aholes can get past that.

[Roboz]

Kaden--don't drop your standards--staying safe within your comfort level is absolutely the way to g0!!. My fellow mongers--it's business, it's not personal if you don't pass screening just move on without complaint . I have not been hobbying in recent past (enjoying SB for now) So I expect I would get a no--but heck other lovely ladies may see me.

[VraiSapuer]

I agree whole heartily. Ladies need to do what they can to stay safe. As do the guys.


I don't play much. I don't have that much bank to come out every week. I travel constantly for work and so my references are all over the place. So I joined P411 thinking that would take care of it. Get enough OK's from around the country and I should be set. But I find that it's not enough to have the OK's. They have to be from the last 3-4 weeks for anyone to take them seriously.


It's just aggravating from my end, but totally understandable that everyone needs to protect themselves. There are a LOT of crazies out there.

[Lubeman]

Keep doing what your doing as far as I’m concerned.

[KCFalcon77]

I've never really have had a problem with references on 411 needing to be that current. Saw mostly one lady for over a year, and then after venturing back out there, never really skipped a beat. Can't remember the last time I've had a lady on there say she wouldn't see me, but I'm also pretty selective on whom I see as well. None of us can be too careful.

[hobby4funroyce]

Though Ms Karter's inquiry is fair, and the subsequent responses are appropriate, I find it quite comical on how many posterior puckers surface to advocate with the hopes of staying in proximity as a client.

Yes, vetting potential clientele is a necessity as a provider, and equally important for gentleman who hobby. Mongers and providers utilize similar methods when engaging this hobby - communicating with individuals within this community to learn and ascertain the best methods to navigate this business in a constructive, SAFE, and fun manner. On both sides, some learn the hard way via bad experiences, and others learn through others mistakes.

Regarding Ms. Karter, the complaints leveled have been many, due to there being mixed grievances on how your screening is conducted, and though this may be presumptuous of me, I'm pretty sure you have a working knowledge of this, because we know there are many white knights who relay information and provide intel to fellow providers.

Your screening process is yours to manage, and if a potential client doesn't agree, they should not engage.

Lastly, as a few have previously mentioned, if a provider is refusing to convey services due to a failed screening, compliance, or whatever other factors, it is nice to bestow the professional courtesy of informing the interested party that you will not be rendering any services with them.

[BigDeal]

I said it before and Ill say it again.
Guys that believe that their eccie profile and their reviews should be appropriate enough for screening are whack.
Its not.
Yes you have to stay in the game because so much in the subculture can change. A handle could be taken over or compromised.
KK.
Keep up up what you are doing and the guys that get nasty got butthurt ...i say fuck em!!

[FiddleSticks]

Referrals are one thing.
But when you start asking for personal info like Real Name, Address, pictures of ID, where we work, etc... Then that's crossing the line.

Would you provide us that info about yourself? Fuck no!
So why should we be expected to provide it to you?

The risk is absolutely higher for us when you start asking all this personal information.
For all we know you have a pimp. And you and your pimp are running a scam to rob people, or steal identities.

So a simple rules of thumb should be this...
If you won't give us the exact same info that you expect us to give, then you shouldn't ask for it.

[BigDeal]

Originally Posted by FiddleSticks

Referrals are one thing.
But when you start asking for personal info like Real Name, Address, pictures of ID, where we work, etc... Then that's crossing the line.

Would you provide us that info about yourself? Fuck no!
So why should we be expected to provide it to you?

The risk is absolutely higher for us when you start asking all this personal information.
For all we know you have a pimp. And you and your pimp are running a scam to rob people, or steal identities.

So a simple rules of thumb should be this...
If you won't give us the exact same info that you expect us to give, then you shouldn't ask for it.

I disagree in one sense that a female provider is inherently the weaker sex and at risk more by someone who could do her harm. Many more women have been beaten in this hobby then men have in my opinion, although I dont have any stats to prove it.
Another thing is i havent heard of too many men complain that their identity was compromised or stolen by a provider who asked for this.
Once again i dont have proof of my claim...just an opinion.

[ks15]

I had references that were recent, gave the info, and then told me that wasn't good enough. I, in turn asked my references if or what they might of mentioned but they told they didn't even get called or emailed or texted. Given again she was being bombarded with request to be seen given all the encounters. So like some mentioned before a simple "not interested" or I'll follow up with you in "x amount of time" would suffice. Either or it's whatever at this point.

[Ellie_AlexandraXXX]

In this business, all attention is good attention. If you are being talked about it means you are doing something right. Guys will say things about you, good and bad. Ignore it all. Don’t read any of the chatter or the things that are said about you on this board. Focus on building relationships with guys that are respectful of your boundaries and screening process. If you have plans on being in this business for a while be consistent, dependable, prompt and professional. Work hard to build your name, brand and reputation because those things follow you everywhere you go. Be VERY selective on who you see. NEVER compromise your screening for anyone. You don’t have to see everyone that contacts you. There are guys on here that love to prey on new providers. Never let anyone pressure you into meeting them or doing things that you are not comfortable doing. The only guys that will complain about your screening process are the ones who can’t meet your requirements. Those are usually the guys who post on here about being robbed, scammed or put in dangerous situations because they selected to see someone who didn’t screen them. Scammers, Robbers and LE do not screen! Be upfront, clear and concise on what you require for screening. If a guy isn’t comfortable providing you the things you may need to verify him don’t waste anymore of your time. There are a lot of great guys on this board but there are also several professional trolls. You are doing great so far. Ignore the negativity and focus on the things that you can control. Have fun and stay safe!

Originally Posted by Kayden Karter

Why do some clients on here complain about screening? When they are not able to clear screening they say nasty, mean and hurtful things. If you don’t have recent referrals from other ladies who are active on this site then you must have other info to get verified. I totally understand everybody is not comfortable giving certain info and I am fine with that, but I can’t meet with you if you do not have recent referrals from ladies who answer or if you can’t provide other info. If you feel that I ask for too much info please see someone else. Everyone has to be screened. There is really no reason to be mean or nasty about it. Sorry if I posted this in the wrong part of the site

[lookintoo1]

If the screening is to much don't do it. But no need to be shitty on either side. Both sides need to feel safe.
When Kayden first posted new and looking to get verified, I contacted her. She asked me if I had any vouches. I said yes but I've been here for a while she is new and she can check here see what I'm about. My reason, I only see 1 non utr 1 utr and then the occasional wandering out for variety. I had no idea how professional she was or not, if she was who she said so I did not want to give info on them. So I stopped it there. I said don't think we are a match thanked her for her time. She was ok with it told me to have a wonderful day.
Now that she's been around and has some reputable reviews I would be more likely to give some info and see her But real life info is a no-go for me. We both have that to risk.

[lookintoo1]

Some of you guys forget
1 they aren't required to see us
2 we aren't required to see them
C plenty of pussy out there.

[KCQuestor]

Originally Posted by TailHooked

There are no rules on screening. Each girl can do as she pleases.

Originally Posted by ks15

I had references that were recent, gave the info, and then told me that wasn't good enough. I, in turn asked my references if or what they might of mentioned but they told they didn't even get called or emailed or texted.

I was very excited to see Kayden based on her looks and a few reviews. She seemed responsive and professional and I like when a girl isn't flaky.

However, my references were not good enough for her and she didn't even try to contact them. But that's her prerogative. If she will only see guys who meet a certain level of recent activity on ECCIE, that's her call. I was disappointed because she seems like she'd be a good time, and she looks adorable, but I couldn't pass her screening so that's that. I thanked her for her time and moved on.

Originally Posted by Kayden Karter

When they are not able to clear screening they say nasty, mean and hurtful things.

There's never any reason to get nasty with a girl for her screening choices. if she chooses not to see you to protect herself, that's her choice. You aren't losing anything. Having sex with a hooker isn't a necessity, it's a luxury.

[royamcr]

Originally Posted by lookintoo1

If the screening is to much don't do it. But no need to be shitty on either side. Both sides need to feel safe.
When Kayden first posted new and looking to get verified, I contacted her. She asked me if I had any vouches. I said yes but I've been here for a while she is new and she can check here see what I'm about. My reason, I only see 1 non utr 1 utr and then the occasional wandering out for variety. I had no idea how professional she was or not, if she was who she said so I did not want to give info on them. So I stopped it there. I said don't think we are a match thanked her for her time. She was ok with it told me to have a wonderful day.
Now that she's been around and has some reputable reviews I would be more likely to give some info and see her But real life info is a no-go for me. We both have that to risk.

Been around and around and around, and around. lol