do you support healthcare for illegal aliens?

[bambino]

I voted no. But I support it in California.

[gnadfly]

Many rich foreigners come to Houston for some of the best medical care on the planet. They pay for it. The way the question is asked in the Democratic debates expresses free health care for illegal immigrants. That's the spirit I took the poll question.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by oeb11

SR - thank You.
AnyOne presenting at an ER must be evaluated - by law.

AnyOne in this country who wishes to see a physician = and can pay for the service - is able to do so - regardless of immigration status. I am fine with that.

I object to Benefits for illegal immigrants funded by taxpayers and not available to those same taxpayers.

Agree totally.

[rexdutchman]

The topic should go to a national vote,

[the_real_Barleycorn]

I have to agree, the choices are flawed. We should provide crisis care to save a life including unborn children but rehab, gender reassignment, liposuction, rhinoplasty, dermatology....They're on their own.

[oeb11]

Dermatologists treat a lot of skin cancer.
Elective cosmetic surgery should be the financial responsibility of the consumer. Agreed.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

The topic should go to a national vote,

Doesn't work that way, but do you REALLY want to leave a decision like this up to a POPULAR VOTE?

[oeb11]

yr-Doesn't work that way, but do you REALLY want to leave a decision like this up to a POPULAR VOTE?

Correct - DPST's know much better about the course of the nation than does the Electorate.
Bernie and Warren know what is best for the nation - no reason to have elections
Right yr.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by oeb11

TWK - consider clarifying the issue - "Free" government taxpayer paid health care for all Illegal Immigrants.

A freebie that elevates illegals above voting, tax-paying citizens.



I would Vote No.
US owes nothing to the citizens of another country.

If bleeding heart Liberals want to "Help Others" - (read - control by purse strings) - let them do so out of their own pockets.

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Waco,
the question is ambiguous,
Having numerous medical professionals as clients, my answer is:
Anyone that can pay for it (or has insurance) can have it.
But if you're talking about govt funding for non-cits, nope. And yes, that also covers legal immigrants (who should have a job and thus insurance).

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I was going to respond the same way. Ambiguous question. I support illegals being given medical treatment at emergency rooms. I do not support medical treatment for illegals at the doctor of their choice.

I agree totally with OEB.

Blame the Democrats. that's how the question was stated at the debates. of course they said "undocumented immigrants". i said "illegal aliens". same question.

On the night i saw the questions asked, all 10 candidates raised their hands. can't say on the second night but i'd guess all did also.

i phrased it as it was phrased in the Debates on purpose. thinking back on it, i should not have given the "Unsure" option. Democrats didn't.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...h-care/593761/


"Anxiety spiked among many centrist Democrats when all 10 presidential candidates at a recent debate raised their hand, as if pledging allegiance, to declare they would support providing health care to undocumented immigrants."

[Unique_Carpenter]

Come on Waco,

Do you really want to say the Dims made you do it?
Of course the original Dim question was a set up.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Come on Waco,

Do you really want to say the Dims made you do it?

No. I'm saying i phrased it exactly as it was asked in the Debates. On purpose. Blame the uber liberal hosts who asked it that way to the Democratic candidates.


if you don't like the way they phrased it, don't vote.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Waco,
the question is ambiguous,
Having numerous medical professionals as clients, my answer is:
Anyone that can pay for it (or has insurance) can have it.
But if you're talking about govt funding for non-cits, nope. And yes, that also covers legal immigrants (who should have a job and thus insurance).

I generally agree, but I also think some medical "care" crosses the line into "public health", and those things should be available to all, not to help the individual but to help the society.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Blame the Democrats. that's how the question was stated at the debates. of course they said "undocumented immigrants". i said "illegal aliens". same question.

On the night i saw the questions asked, all 10 candidates raised their hands. can't say on the second night but i'd guess all did also.

i phrased it as it was phrased in the Debates on purpose. thinking back on it, i should not have given the "Unsure" option. Democrats didn't.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...h-care/593761/


"Anxiety spiked among many centrist Democrats when all 10 presidential candidates at a recent debate raised their hand, as if pledging allegiance, to declare they would support providing health care to undocumented immigrants."

Very fair to point that out. If I had been on the stage I would have raised my hand too because of the ambiguity of the question.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Very fair to point that out. If I had been on the stage I would have raised my hand too because of the ambiguity of the question.

this shows how far left the Democrats are pushing the candidates. Hickenlooper did support healthcare for ILLEGAL ALIENS and he is a centrist Democrat. he's the former Colorado Governor. he's floundering of course but he could have picked up support from a lot of moderate/centrist Democratic voters if he'd had the balls to say NO. He didn't. he's selling out his ass.

A few years ago i think Biden would not have supported this but he spent 8 years with his nose up Obama's socialist ass smelling his shit. Biden is the front runner. I think he went along to keep his lead. He should have appealed to the majority of Democrats who don't support all this "Free shit for All" crap.

If Biden would resist this far left move and be more moderate he'd stand a better chance against Trump. His left shift will hurt him badly. And as Chung Tran says and i agree Trump will crush this buffoon in a debate. He's not the brightest bulb in the light bulb factory. Say what you will about Trump, he's by far quicker on his feet under a live debate format than almost all of the Democratic candidates. the few that could like Gabbard or Hickenlooper are not likely to make the stage.

[ICTTDS]

I didn't vote because of the way the question is worded but I will happily state my position very clearly here.

I support access to healthcare for anyone and everyone. What I don't support is US Taxpayers paying for the healthcare of non-citizens. They should pay for their own healthcare. If they can't afford it, then they should be given emergency medical care only and then deported. I admire those that want to come here to work but there is a legal process they need to go through.

I am also not opposed to those here illegally (who are not criminals and can support themselves and their families) being offered a one-time chance to sign up for a work permit that allows them to stay on certain conditions (only because our lack of immigration enforcement essentially invited them to come here illegally) but......they should not be given citizenship unless they go back to their home country and go through the correct legal process to do so. I really don't know why something like this would even be controversial at all.