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Old 06-03-2017, 12:22 PM   #16
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...for 100's of millions of years .... the "climate" changes!!

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Wow LexyLiar, maybe next you'll eat a turd and tell us it taste like shit...



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Old 06-03-2017, 02:40 PM   #17
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GE and Elon Musk don't like it because it devalues their products that they hope to bank off of......Jeez, how pathetic.

Musk knew well in advance he and Trump had broad differences 180 of one another when it came to the topic of climate change / global warming.

He agreed to join two of the presidential councils anyway (ie: The Strategic and Policy Forum along with the Manufacturing Jobs Initiative)....again, knowing full well, Trump was walking away from the stupid Paris Climate Agreement.

He took a seat in order to further his own self interests....not in the interest of tens of millions of American citizens as he'd have you believe. Being close to Trump (and in his ear) he hoped to have the opportunity of persuading Trump to remain with the pact..

Musk may be a real life billionaire genius (but now that he's walked away) he has clearly shown his True Colors....and we ain't talking red, white, and blue either. To Mu$k it was all about The Green.....
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Old 06-03-2017, 03:14 PM   #18
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Yup even the EPAs own models , show Billons for no change in the climate ( News today on the Paris accord )
Its so bad when the Libertarts own people can't show a need / The free ride is over for The al gores of the climate world .
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Old 06-03-2017, 04:39 PM   #19
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Several paragraphs taken from the message boards of Bill OReilly.com:

"The climate change movement is not about climate. It is one more global redistribution-of-the-wealth scheme perpetrated by the One World Order crowd, for which George Soros is primary financier. The Paris Accord was nothing more than an organized pact to get more money out of the US, which has seriously reduced its emissions WITHOUT having to join forces with the rest of the world. Oh, and there was also a provision for the US to further deplete its coffers by building up other nations.

A One World Order--all nations being equal--cannot exist with a strong US. That is why Obama wanted to weaken the country as much as possible--especially in the areas of the military and the economy. Obama/Soros/Hillary/ want a huge world government, with themselves and their acolytes running it. Hence, we now have climate change. The reason the climate change champions don't give a damn about how many CO2 emissions they are producing is because this is about world government, not climate."

In reply to previous post:

"I couldn't agree more! Isn't it interesting that the American people were never asked to vote on whether they wanted to be part of a globalist society--a One World Order? It is insufferable to think that leaders on the left (Obama/Hillary/Nancy Pelosi) believe they know "best" what the American people need, but have been selling out the American people. It is outrageous that Dems have worked to (1) lower standards of living in America, (2) give away American jobs and resources and wealth, and (3) expect the American people to accept passively their country being reduced to a third-world nation status."

Another post on the message board I find to be just a bit thought provoking:

"I am 68 years old, retired from the Army. Back in the mid 1970's I was in college. The big thing back then was global cooling. The "experts" predicted massive ice sheets across the planet. Forward several decades, and now were it is global warming. I remember reading several years ago that a study was done on the media's reporting on this. The research went as far back as the Civil War to the 1990's. It found that the media switched back and forth on their reporting of climate changes. It seems to occur about every 35 years. It asks a question: Is this done to generate revenue"?
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0zombies SUCK... http://canadafreepress.com/article/o...t-of-the-story

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Obama’s involvement in Chicago Climate Exchange--the rest of the story

By Judi McLeod March 25, 2009


“Obama Years Ago Helped Fund Carbon Program He Is Now Pushing Through Congress” is a FOXNews story by Ed Barnes. In short, “While on the board of a Chicago-based charity, Barack Obama helped fund a carbon trading exchange that will likely play a critical role in the cap-and-trade carbon reduction program he is now trying to push through Congress as president.”

The charity was the Joyce Foundation on whose board of directors Obama served and which gave nearly $1.1 million in two separate grants that were “instrumental in developing and launching the privately-owned Chicago Climate Exchange, which now calls itself “North America’s only cap and trade system for all six greenhouse gases, with global affiliates and projects worldwide.”

And that’s only the beginning of this tawdry tale, Mr. Barnes.

The “privately-owned” Chicago Climate Exchange is heavily influenced by Obama cohorts Al Gore and Maurice Strong.

For years now Strong and Gore have been cashing in on that lucrative cottage industry known as man-made global warming.

Strong is on the board of directors of the Chicago Climate Exchange, Wikipedia-described as “the world’s first and North America’s only legally binding greenhouse gas emission registry reduction system for emission sources and offset projects in North America and Brazil.”

Gore, self-proclaimed Patron Saint of the Environment, buys his carbon off-sets from himself—the Generation Investment Management LLP, “an independent, private, owner-managed partnership established in 2004 with offices in London and Washington, D.C., of which he is both chairman and founding partner. The Generation Investment Management business has considerable influence over the major carbon credit trading firms that currently exist, including the Chicago Climate Exchange.

Strong, the silent partner, is a man whose name often draws a blank on the Washington cocktail circuit. Even though a former Secretary General of the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (the much hyped Rio Earth Summit) and Under-Secretary General of the United Nations in the days of an Oil-for-Food beleaguered Kofi Annan, the Canadian born Strong is little known in the United States. That’s because he spends most of his time in China where he he has been working to make the communist country the world’s next superpower. The nondescript Strong, nonetheless is the big cheese in the underworld of climate change and is one of the main architects of the failing Kyoto Protocol.

Full credit for the expose on the business partnership of Strong and Gore in the cap-and-trade reduction scheme should go to the investigative acumen of the Executive Intelligence Review (EIR).

The tawdry tale of the top two global warming gurus in the business world goes all the way back to Earth Day, April 17, 1995 when the future author of “An Inconvenient Truth” travelled to Fall River, Massachusetts, to deliver a green sermon at the headquarters of Molten Metal Technology Inc. (MMTI). MMTI was a firm that proclaimed to have invented a process for recycling metals from waste. Gore praised the Molten Metal firm as a pioneer in the kind of innovative technology that can save the environment, and make money for investors at the same time.

“Gore left a few facts out of his speech that day,” wrote EIR. “First, the firm was run by Strong and a group of Gore intimates, including Peter Knight, the firm’s registered lobbyist, and Gore’s former top Senate aide.”

(Fast-forward to the present day and ask yourself why it is that every time someone picks up another Senate rock, another serpent comes slithering out).

“Second, the company had received more than $25 million in U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) research and development grants, but had failed to prove that the technology worked on a commercial scale. The company would go on to receive another $8 million in federal taxpayers’ cash, at that point, its only source of revenue.

“With Al Gore’s Earth Day as a Wall Street calling card, Molten Metal’s stock value soared to $35 a share, a range it maintained through October 1996. But along the way, DOE scientists had balked at further funding. When in March 1996, corporate officers concluded that the federal cash cow was about to run dry, they took action: Between that date and October 1996, seven corporate officers—including Maurice strong—sold off $15.3 million in personal shares in the company, at top market value. On Oct. 20, 1996—a Sunday—the company issued a press release, announcing for the first time, that DOE funding would be vastly scaled back, and reported the bad news on a conference call with stockbrokers.

“On Monday, the stock plunged by 49%, soon landing at $5 a share. By early 1997, furious stockholders had filed a class action suit against the company and its directors. Ironically, one of the class action lawyers had tangled with Maurice strong in another insider trading case, involving a Swiss company called AZL Resources, chaired by Strong, who was also a lead shareholder. The AZL case closely mirrored Molten Metal, and in the end, Strong and the other AZL partners agreed to pay $5 million to dodge a jury verdict, when eyewitness evidence surfaced of Strong’s role in scamming the value of the company stock up into the stratosphere, before selling it off.

In 1997, Strong went on to accept from Tongsun Park, who was found guilty of illegally acting as an Iraqi agent, $1 million from Saddam Hussein, which was invested in Cordex Petroleum Inc., a company he owned with his son, Fred.

These are the leaders in the Man-made Global Warming Movement, who three years later were to be funded by the man who was to become President of the United States of America.

If we follow the time line on where Obama was during the funding of the Chicago Climate Exchange, he was still a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School teaching constitutional law, with his law license becoming inactive a year later in 2002.

It may be interesting to note that the Chicago Climate Exchange in spite of its hype, is a veritable rat’s nest of cronyism. The largest shareholder in the Exchange is Goldman Sachs. Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley is its honorary chairman, The Joyce Foundation, which funded the Exchange also funded money for John Ayers’ Chicago School Initiatives. John is the brother of William Ayers.

What a flap when it was discovered that the senator from Chicago had nursed on Saul Alinsky’s milk, had his political career launched at a coffee party held by domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, and sat for 20 years, uncomplaining in front of the “God-dam-America pulpit of resentment-challenged Jeremiah Wright.

Folk were naturally outraged that the empty suit who would go on to become TOTUS was spawned from such anti-American activism.

But the media should have been hollering, “Stop Thief!” instead.

The same Chicago Climate Exchange promoting public rip-off was funded by Obama before he was POTUS.

Even as man-made global warming is being exposed as a money-generating hoax, Obama is working feverishly to push the controversial cap-and-trade carbon reduction scheme through Congress.

Obama was never the character he created for himself in the fairy-tale version in “Dreams of My Father”. He’s the agent of Change and Hope for cohorts making money down at the Chicago Climate Exchange.

The Barbarians are pushing at the gate of the Global Warming fraud, and to borrow a line from children playing Hide and Seek, Here they come, ready or not!
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Listen Big tobacco convinced many that cigarette smoke did not cause lung cancer

Trump is just playing the part of big tobacco
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Listen Big tobacco convinced many that cigarette smoke did not cause lung cancer

Trump is just playing the part of big tobacco
And YOU fags have convinced each other that fudge packing doesn't contribute to colorectal cancer !
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And YOU fags have convinced each other that fudge packing doesn't contribute to colorectal cancer !
The parrot once again contributes nada...


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Yup even the EPAs own models , show Billons for no change in the climate ( News today on the Paris accord )
Its so bad when the Libertarts own people can't show a need / The free ride is over for The al gores of the climate world .
https://www.propublica.org/article/t...rity-challenge

The above link states what the DoD thinks about climate change you cigarettes don't cause cancer, easily fooled fool.
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Musk knew well in advance he and Trump had broad differences 180 of one another when it came to the topic of climate change / global warming.

He agreed to join two of the presidential councils anyway (ie: The Strategic and Policy Forum along with the Manufacturing Jobs Initiative)....again, knowing full well, Trump was walking away from the stupid Paris Climate Agreement.

He took a seat in order to further his own self interests....not in the interest of tens of millions of American citizens as he'd have you believe. Being close to Trump (and in his ear) he hoped to have the opportunity of persuading Trump to remain with the pact..

Musk may be a real life billionaire genius (but now that he's walked away) he has clearly shown his True Colors....and we ain't talking red, white, and blue either. To Mu$k it was all about The Green.....
Musk made friends with the Donald so he could get more money to support his money losing car company, and grandstand when the opportunity presented itself. He still needs money, but he can't fail to grandstand in this case at this time. He has to quit or his green credentials are gone.
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Musk made friends with the Donald so he could get more money to support his money losing car company, and grandstand when the opportunity presented itself. He still needs money, but he can't fail to grandstand in this case at this time. He has to quit or his green credentials are gone.
15.2 billion ain't on the poverty roll oink boy. How is space x doing so far?
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Secretary of Defense James Mattis has asserted that climate change is real, and a threat to American interests abroad and the Pentagon’s assets everywhere, a position that appears at odds with the views of the president who appointed him and many in the administration in which he serves.
In unpublished written testimony provided to the Senate Armed Services Committee after his confirmation hearing in January, Mattis said it was incumbent on the U.S. military to consider how changes like open-water routes in the thawing Arctic and drought in global trouble spots can pose challenges for troops and defense planners. He also stressed this is a real-time issue, not some distant what-if.
“Climate change is impacting stability in areas of the world where our troops are operating today,” Mattis said in written answers to questions posed after the public hearing by Democratic members of the committee. “It is appropriate for the Combatant Commands to incorporate drivers of instability that impact the security environment in their areas into their planning.”
Mattis has long espoused the position that the armed forces, for a host of reasons, need to cut dependence on fossil fuels and explore renewable energy where it makes sense. He had also, as commander of the U.S. Joint Forces Command in 2010, signed off on the Joint Operating Environment, which lists climate change as one of the security threats the military expected to confront over the next 25 years.
But Mattis’ written statements to the Senate committee are the first direct signal of his determination to recognize climate change as a member of the Trump administration charged with leading the country’s armed forces.


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typical lib bullshit. Will all the conservatives who think "pollution is good!" please stand up. Anyone... Anyone... Bueller?

Nope. I did not think so. not even Bueller.

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