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Old 04-06-2011, 09:19 PM   #16
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The real kicker is that Congress will still get paid, enjoy all their benifits and grand parties. The military who sacrifice more than they could ever imagine won't get paid. I'll be hurting if it affects retiree pay.
Does any organization look at Congress? Maybe if they were threatened with cuts we'd get some action. Time to step up and work together and think of the people. That will never happen.
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:46 PM   #17
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One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

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Old 04-06-2011, 10:45 PM   #18
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Both sides are playing politics and many workers, business owners, and even tourists will suffer. 66 Billion is a drop in the bucket and not worth the fight. If you are going to shutdown the government, do it for some meaningful amount.We spent nearly a billion in Libya over the past few weeks, and will spend 65 billion in a matter of months on foreign aid or some other crap.

As for me, I am 1500 miles from home and won't know what my fate is until the last minute.
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Old 04-07-2011, 12:21 AM   #19
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Wow,I hope they get their act together as I wouldn't want any of you to lose your jobs or have to work for free...that's just insane!
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:14 AM   #20
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The Govt. has some funky new program for people like me who get federal stafford loans for education. They pay 1/2 at the beginning of the semester, and the other 1/2 at the end of the semester. If the govt shuts down, I won't get my loans..neither will allot of other students...that sucks ass.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:56 AM   #21
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If your business has a Gov't contract you are required to preform services, if you dont then you breach it. They on the other hand dont have to pay you until the budget is approved. So for us business owners get ready for a good fucking.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:56 AM   #22
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It's an extremely ignorant and insane thing to say that the government should be shut down. Many essential services will be affected that guarantees our safety, allows business to operate, and not to mention what it does to the economy. Some here have already given examples of why this is no good to anyone.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:58 AM   #23
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The real kicker is that Congress will still get paid, enjoy all their benifits and grand parties. The military who sacrifice more than they could ever imagine won't get paid. I'll be hurting if it affects retiree pay.
Does any organization look at Congress? Maybe if they were threatened with cuts we'd get some action. Time to step up and work together and think of the people. That will never happen.
Yes, Congresswoman Boxer(D) introduced a bill that would stop congressional pay, but it wasn't allowed to go to the floor by House speaker Boehner(R)
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:08 AM   #24
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For me, it will mean no salary -- and, of course, no "play time."

Certain "essential services" will remain in operation. You will all be thrilled to know, that includes the IRS. No joke.
In actuality the IRS is affected, those that file electronically will not see a delay, however, those that file paper returns will see a delay. Audits and collection services will also be shut-down but as much as we would like to think that is a good thing, it allows tax cheats to get away with shorting the tax payer (you) even longer.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:38 AM   #25
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Wont affect me one bit. Send 'em home for a month or 2. Who cares?
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the way I see it is if it does shut down, it will save all of us some money.
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Christ.... let'em shut down. Maybe then the army of self important, puffed up, petty bureaucrats will get off my fucking back.
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Its the mark of the Washington culture that so many politicians and their little minions believe that the federal government is critically necessary and that the country will come to a screeching halt if they arent there to run things. It is incomprehensible to these boobs how incredibly irrelevant they are to those of us who work to pay the bills and the exorbitant taxes that feed their delusions of self-importance.
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In my profession, if the government shuts down and wants me to work for free, then I expect a pretty fat back-pay check.
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Well said Spaceman and also agree with your first post as well.

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It will not affect me at all. I am hoping if they shut down there will be no one there to take all that damn tax money every couple of weeks.
Far be it from me to say that I am not frustrated also, but if you guys are saying this out of pure frustration, I understand. All of us are dependent on the government whether you want to believe it or not and it's really delusional to believe otherwise. From the food you eat, to the medicine you take, to the highways you drive on and to the military out there keeping the peace (although I don't agree with these wars at all) are all serving you and it's what you pay for in the way of taxes in this country. What do you think corporate America would do if there were no oversight at all from the government? As far as the "puffed up petty bureaucrats" as you refer to them, they are running this country and make critical decisions that affect your everyday life and if you want to change that then get informed, drop the rhetoric and make a difference at the polls on election day.
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Rodram, you've been listening to your precious Barbara Boxhead too long. A federal government shutdown would mean absolutely NOTHING to most of the people who get up every day and go to work in a segment of the economy that actually produces something. It only hurts people that are sucking on the big-government tit.
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This shutdown will be short-lived and is actually needed to force the cuts that need to be made. First and foremost cut ALL foreign aid. How can we give away money that we do not have? Ask the fucking Saudis and Sultans for the aid.

Of more concern is when we hit the debt ceiling in mid-May and the government, whether working or not, starts defaulting on its debt payments. The cascading affects of this are much more catastrophic than a temporary shutdown. Can you say worthless dollar?
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So... If it shuts down, does that mean that we won't pay Federal Income Tax while it's closed? No services, no taxation?
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So... If it shuts down, does that mean that we won't pay Federal Income Tax while it's closed? No services, no taxation?
And if you believe that...
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Rodram, you've been listening to your precious Barbara Boxhead too long. A federal government shutdown would mean absolutely NOTHING to most of the people who get up every day and go to work in a segment of the economy that actually produces something. It only hurts people that are sucking on the big-government tit.
Wow, you sound like a Glen Beck U grad. I don't even know where to start with you but here's a small sampling from the last time the govt shutdown:

The long shutdown that began in December 1995 had ripple effects through all sectors of the economy. A few examples, taken from congressional hearings, press and agency accounts, follow:

Health. New patients were not accepted into clinical research at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Clinical Center; the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ceased disease surveillance (information about the spread of diseases, such as AIDS and flu, were unavailable); hotline calls to NIH concerning diseases were not answered; and toxic waste clean-up work at 609 sites stopped, resulting in 2,400 "Superfund" workers being sent home.
Law Enforcement/Public Safety. Delays occurred in the processing of alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives applications by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms; work on more than 3,500 bankruptcy cases was suspended; cancellation of the recruitment and testing of federal law-enforcement officials occurred, including the hiring of 400 border patrol agents; and delinquent child-support cases were suspended.
Parks/Museums/Monuments. Closure of 368 National Park Service sites (loss of 7 million visitors) occurred, with local communities near national parks losing an estimated $14.2 million per day in tourism revenues; and closure of national museums and monuments (estimated loss of 2 million visitors) occurred.
Visas/Passports. 20,000-30,000 applications by foreigners for visas went unprocessed each day; 200,000 U.S. applications for passports went unprocessed; and U.S. tourist industries and airlines sustained millions of dollars in losses.
American Indian/other Native Americans. All 13,500 Department of Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) employees were furloughed; general assistance payments for basic needs to 53,000 BIA benefit recipients were delayed; and estimated 25,000 American Indians did not receive timely payment of oil and gas royalties.
American Veterans. Major curtailment in services, ranging from health and welfare to finance and travel was experienced.
Federal Contractors. Of $18 billion in Washington area contracts, $3.7 billion (over 20%) were managed by agencies affected by the funding lapse;(6) the National Institute of Standards, was unable to issue a new standard for lights and lamps, scheduled to be effective January 1, 1996; and employees of federal contractors were furloughed without pay.
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