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12-06-2010, 08:52 PM
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Let me start by saying I has of yet not read the review. I can't comment on that (yet). But CiCi, I can understand your being upset if you had a bad review. Especially if you feel the review didn't adequately reflect your side of the story. We all know there are two sides. I don't disagree a rebuttal button would be in order, but have no idea of the logistics involved to make that happen.
That being said, the tone and nature of your posts cannot possible help you. What Peter says of Paul says more of Peter than of Paul. It's not what you say but how you say it that reads a little rough. And, as I've said before, as a "seller" in any market you can't really respond to negativity without negatively reflecting on yourself. After all, go google "Wal-Mart Sucks" and you'll have dozens of pages bashing Wal-Mart. But if Wal-Mart responded it'd be front page news. Fair? No. But I sure wish I had the ability to call BS on every customer I have that says something I disagree with. But to do so would be career suicide.
Also, to address a few specifics. Specifically the MSOG. YOUR interpretation is that blowing early disqualifies you from future play time. Please understand that particle opinion is not shared by all of your contemporaries and few of your clients. They may accept it, but that doesn't mean they agree with it. I look at it like you either pay for time or you pay for a service. One is legal, the other is not. So either someone buys an hour of your time, or they buy a specific services. We all accept that providers have limitations with their given time. But that is their "market differentiator" over their competition (you). If a customer values MSOG highly they will not knowingly see a provider that is a one-and-done girl. If the customer had implicit understanding of this going in, it's on him. If not, you can't be upset with him if he's less than happy to not get his full hour if he expected it. After all, he paid by the hour. If I buy an hour massage and get 45 minutes, I'm upset. Period. Regardless of if I was relaxed sooner.
Again, I don't really know you. We've only chatted briefly. I'm not attacking you personally. I'm only trying to point out a few things that might help you see it another way. After all, 7 years is impressive. But there are many guys on here that have been hobbying longer than you've been alive....they might know a thing or two as well....and they might be willing to share if you'll let them.
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12-06-2010, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sens55
Let me start by saying I has of yet not read the review. I can't comment on that (yet). But CiCi, I can understand your being upset if you had a bad review. Especially if you feel the review didn't adequately reflect your side of the story. We all know there are two sides. I don't disagree a rebuttal button would be in order, but have no idea of the logistics involved to make that happen.
That being said, the tone and nature of your posts cannot possible help you. What Peter says of Paul says more of Peter than of Paul. It's not what you say but how you say it that reads a little rough. And, as I've said before, as a "seller" in any market you can't really respond to negativity without negatively reflecting on yourself. After all, go google "Wal-Mart Sucks" and you'll have dozens of pages bashing Wal-Mart. But if Wal-Mart responded it'd be front page news. Fair? No. But I sure wish I had the ability to call BS on every customer I have that says something I disagree with. But to do so would be career suicide.
Also, to address a few specifics. Specifically the MSOG. YOUR interpretation is that blowing early disqualifies you from future play time. Please understand that particle opinion is not shared by all of your contemporaries and few of your clients. They may accept it, but that doesn't mean they agree with it. I look at it like you either pay for time or you pay for a service. One is legal, the other is not. So either someone buys an hour of your time, or they buy a specific services. We all accept that providers have limitations with their given time. But that is their "market differentiator" over their competition (you). If a customer values MSOG highly they will not knowingly see a provider that is a one-and-done girl. If the customer had implicit understanding of this going in, it's on him. If not, you can't be upset with him if he's less than happy to not get his full hour if he expected it. After all, he paid by the hour. If I buy an hour massage and get 45 minutes, I'm upset. Period. Regardless of if I was relaxed sooner.
Again, I don't really know you. We've only chatted briefly. I'm not attacking you personally. I'm only trying to point out a few things that might help you see it another way. After all, 7 years is impressive. But there are many guys on here that have been hobbying longer than you've been alive....they might know a thing or two as well....and they might be willing to share if you'll let them.
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I am not disagreeing with you at all but I do not make people leave after wards if they want to talk cuddle etc that is fine but if they chose to get up and leave that is not on me..Where i am at with things is the fact that some men are not putting light on the situation and are choosing to only out a few things not what really happened..Maybe I did word things a little harsh but I had to put it out there..Do I regret doing so no!!If I wouldn't have posted this thread a lot of things would not of been brought to light..Also Kind of shed light on a few things from a providers view.. I take all criticism well I was not mad that he said no I was upset how he worded things and left so much out and it has been weeks since the appt. And he has called back since then..So if he had such a problem why still try to come by..Just my two cents though..
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12-06-2010, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss_Mya
Isn't a VP getting BCD comments against the rules?
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Of course. But since the first day of these discussion forums, men have been leaking information from the private, men's only side. Why? Because secrecy and naked women cannot coexist in a man's world. We say and pay anything in the presence of breasts.
No such thing as a "men's room." Never will be.
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12-06-2010, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FLWrite
Of course. But since the first day of these discussion forums, men have been leaking information from the private, men's only side. Why? Because secrecy and naked women cannot coexist in a man's world. We say and pay anything in the presence of breasts.
No such thing as a "men's room." Never will be.
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True - but when someone rubs our noses in it I think it should be dealt with.
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12-06-2010, 10:04 PM
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i have no one that lets me read the reviews but my regulars will tell me what is said if its good or bad but never word for word
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12-06-2010, 10:45 PM
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IMHO, an hour should get an hour, but the girls make the rules. If it's one and done it should be stated up front, esp. if an hour is paid. But even if it's one and done, an early pop should never get a discount or refund. To ask for anything back is totally rude, wrong and ludicrous.
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12-06-2010, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bustycici
i have no one that lets me read the reviews but my regulars will tell me what is said if its good or bad but never word for word
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Originally Posted by bustycici
Ok so I have read various reviews lately
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?Now I have read these reviews and for one I am going to address a few things
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12-06-2010, 11:11 PM
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@ Sarge, i noticed that too lol.
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12-06-2010, 11:41 PM
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I can read into it enough with out bcd comments and I can see if what was offered was listed etc.. I am not trying to confuse anyone at all that is what I meant I read the reviews and saw what was said and I can see where the review was going by comments..Sorry if you misunderstood what I had said ..
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12-07-2010, 12:25 PM
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FWIW, I don't have ROS access and I could tell what her beef was just from what I read in the body of the review.
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12-07-2010, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Muffrider
FWIW, I don't have ROS access and I could tell what her beef was just from what I read in the body of the review.
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thank u muff
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12-07-2010, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FLWrite
Of course. But since the first day of these discussion forums, men have been leaking information from the private, men's only side. Why? Because secrecy and naked women cannot coexist in a man's world. We say and pay anything in the presence of breasts.
No such thing as a "men's room." Never will be.
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Originally Posted by Omahan
True - but when someone rubs our noses in it I think it should be dealt with.
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This thread is the reason why ladies are not allowed to comment on reviews. This thread serves no purpose but to back channel the rules that are in place. None of us here were there so none of us will never know what happened. Ladies not being able to to post on the reviews is a good rule because all it does is cause problems and becomes a big case of "he said, she said". If you don't like the review move on plain and simple this is how the person feels and that's it. I also have read the review and there is nothing in it that would spawn this type of response unless the OP had some sort of BCD access to it. Some of us do our very best to follow the rules of the board and it sucks when someone admits to violating the rules and rubbing it in the faces of the moderators.
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12-07-2010, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss_Mya
This thread is the reason why ladies are not allowed to comment on reviews. This thread serves no purpose but to back channel the rules that are in place. None of us here were there so none of us will never know what happened. Ladies not being able to to post on the reviews is a good rule because all it does is cause problems and becomes a big case of "he said, she said". If you don't like the review move on plain and simple this is how the person feels and that's it. I also have read the review and there is nothing in it that would spawn this type of response unless the OP had some sort of BCD access to it. Some of us do our very best to follow the rules of the board and it sucks when someone admits to violating the rules and rubbing it in the faces of the moderators.
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ok no one went against the rules as a VP I have not viewed the BCD comments now as far as I said I read the reviews yes I did anyone can did I say I read the BCD comments no!!Now after I posted this thread did I get some feedback from others about what it said yes did I ask for it NO!!So do not assume .Second providers should be able to comment..I am not mad or care if it was a bad review there is more to the story.Which I feel strongly about.So before you go putting words in my mouth read more carefully.My issue with that review is not that he said no but the fact he left out a lot which were some of the things he complained about not getting he got.So I only agree that a provider should be allowed to say something when important details that other hobbyist would care to know is left out.
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12-07-2010, 01:50 PM
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I think you should be allowed to post a rebuttal in the coed section. I had a fake review on ASPD that I posted about in coed after I read the general stuff that I was allowed to read. No one gave me any flak about it. Everyone was really nice. Just because you have the courage to say what you think and stand up for yourself doesn't mean people should jump on you for it. If someone doesn't want to see you after what you post, then you probably don't want to see them anyway. No big loss.
If you read BCD comments, now that's a completely different matter.
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12-07-2010, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Allie_Kat
I think you should be allowed to post a rebuttal in the coed section. I had a fake review on ASPD that I posted about in coed after I read the general stuff that I was allowed to read. No one gave me any flak about it. Everyone was really nice. Just because you have the courage to say what you think and stand up for yourself doesn't mean people should jump on you for it. If someone doesn't want to see you after what you post, then you probably don't want to see them anyway. No big loss.
If you read BCD comments, now that's a completely different matter.
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Exactly thank you Allie...
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