OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO BAN AR-15 AMMO

[Jeroboam]

Here is a salient quote from Christian apologist C.S. Lewis. It is fully applicable to the gentle, subtle, barely perceptible erosion of our liberties. It is what the "guvmint," both Left- and Right-leaning secretly believe, and that by which they operate.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
C.S. Lewis

[timpage]

Yes, the tyranny of a government that denies its citizens the god given right of armor piercing ammunition. Horrible. We'll have to rely on soft-points, hollowpoints, tracer and FMJ.

How will we manage?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

I see that as most feasible at this point and time cause over half of the American population are stupid enough to abide by such a Government request.

Jim

What are you trying to say?

[timpage]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

That's right; they are banning ammo used in AR-15s......glad you agree with me, you dumbfuck.

And I have no doubt that if successful with this, they will reclassify other ammo as "armor piercing" and continue with their bans.

Yes, tell us all about all the other bans in place that keep you from getting the ammunition you need.

I'll wait.

[UnderConstruction]

Originally Posted by timpage

Yes, tell us all about all the other bans in place that keep you from getting the ammunition you need.

I'll wait.

Very similar to the liberals who screamed about the patriot act and how they were going to be watching which library books people checked out and it would lead to communism or some such bullshit. And that never materialized either.

[rioseco]

Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

Very similar to the liberals who screamed about the patriot act and how they were going to be watching which library books people checked out and it would lead to communism or some such bullshit. And that never materialized either.

Never materialized.......
It takes time to cook an egg in the sun, but don't believe it can't happen.
We are on the path toward a hard left socialistic America my friends.
Think from time to time about boiling a frog. If you put a frog in a pot of hot water he will go ballistic, fighting to escape. Instead put him in a mild temperature pot of water and slowly increase the heat. You can watch him boil in a state of oblivion. He will never know how it happened but cooked he will be.
Same is true for incremental tyranny. Take all your freedoms at once and you too will join the mob of crazed fiery eyed lunatics opposing the federal government. To advert the mob,the unrest and the objection, a tyrannical government begins by taking small. Take something that doesn't cause alarm to all. They will take in the name of the "greater good". It is through an apathetic, naive public that this campaign finds it's success.

Since 1934 NFA, one piece of gun legislation after another has been enacted. The federal government has always come back for more. Enough is never enough for an over zealous hungry government. Less than one-tenth of one percent of Americans causes gun violence yet we have a leftwing tyrannical government imposing it will on most all of the citizenry. I say most all because the super-wealthy, famous or politicians have the security and protection they deem necessary for their defense.

As for the Patriot Act, I agree it is terrible legislation, pulled off with slight of hand and is an outright offense to liberty.With that said and agreed to, why would you want to defend one act of tyranny to condone another such as Obama's attempt to blot out the Second Amendment with his pen.

LINK : http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...278_story.html

[UnderConstruction]

I'm gonna have to question your numbers on gun violence. Less than one tenth of one percent? How is that even possible? Research has shown you're more likely to be a victim of gun violence if you're a gun owner.


http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013...in-possession/


For roughly each percentage point increase in gun ownership in a state, there was an equal increase in firearm homicide rate.

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/20...ths-fact-check


http://www.newscientist.com/article/...nd-killed.html

[rioseco]

Originally Posted by timpage

Yes, the tyranny of a government that denies its citizens the god given right of armor piercing ammunition. Horrible. We'll have to rely on soft-points, hollowpoints, tracer and FMJ.

How will we manage?

Please read the last paragraph TimPage
This from another thread but explains complications on what you call "ARMOR PIERCING AMMO"

How in the hell did you come by that ?
I am referring to your claim that I at times tend to prefer a more updated constitutional interpretation.
The constitution is not yesterdays bath water. It is not to be thrown out with the times. Nor is it to be vulnerable to any whimsical updated interpretation. That is the device of Progressives and you know that to be so.
You claiming I said so, makes you to be a liar. Do not commit yourself to such an injustice.
I will not justify to you as why I should have a AR. Again read my words. It is none of your concern, none of you or the governments business. The Second Amendment is the only justification needed for free men to bear arms. As for you fretting over armor piercing rounds who will determine what is armor piercing ? In some circles any centerfire caliber suited for large game in the USA has at the very least some armor piecing capabilities. That goes for your gran-dads "thirty-thirty" as well as the favored 30-06 and numerous others. Do you see where this path of tyranny leads to yet ?

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

What are you trying to say?

I am saying just what I stated. People will turn in firearms voluntarily if asked by the government. I believe it happened in Connecticut a few years ago. They called it a Firearm buy back program. They actually paid people for turning in a legal firearm. If I am not mistaken they paid anywhere from 25.00 to 150.00 depending on the type and cal of the firearm. There is no reason to turn in a legal firearm just because the Government be it Fed, State or otherwise says you should. I am sure most of the firearms that were turned in were probably junk anyway or even inoperable but the point is the request was made with the idea of reducing firearm possession without infringing upon 2nd amendment rights.

Jim

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jeroboam

Here is a salient quote from Christian apologist ....

What is a "Christian apologist"?

Not that I take issue with the first line of the quote! Which is:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive."

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by rioseco

I realize that you believe me to be a clown, an idiot. That I can not change.

I am in great company in that belief, Cornholio!

Don't forget ignorant asshole, hate monger and mindless minion. Your posts indicate you are all of those things and even less.

You are easy meat not only for me, but for the neocon (Koch) machine who has used your innate ignorance and xenophobia to create an entire class of American serfs.

Who yo massa, dipshit?

[UnderConstruction]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

I am saying just what I stated. People will turn in firearms voluntarily if asked by the government. I believe it happened in Connecticut a few years ago. They called it a Firearm buy back program. They actually paid people for turning in a legal firearm. If I am not mistaken they paid anywhere from 25.00 to 150.00 depending on the type and cal of the firearm. There is no reason to turn in a legal firearm just because the Government be it Fed, State or otherwise says you should. I am sure most of the firearms that were turned in were probably junk anyway or even inoperable but the point is the request was made with the idea of reducing firearm possession without infringing upon 2nd amendment rights.

Jim

They weren't asked, they were paid. Not like they did it for nothing

[UnderConstruction]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

I am in great company in that belief, Cornholio!

Don't forget ignorant asshole, hate monger and mindless minion. Your posts indicate you are all of those things and even less.

You are easy meat not only for me, but for the neocon (Koch) machine who has used your innate ignorance and xenophobia to create an entire class of American serfs.

Who yo massa, dipshit?

Xenophobia is quite rampant among low-information voters. Coincidence? I don't think so. Without information and context, you naturally fear difference. That's why he goes on about homos and Muslims. He doesn't understand them. He doesn't want to take the time to understand then. But he wants everyone to understand him?

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by timpage

Yes, the tyranny of a government that denies its citizens the god given right of armor piercing ammunition. Horrible. We'll have to rely on soft-points, hollowpoints, tracer and FMJ.

How will we manage?

Armor piercing? There's armor piercing and there is ARMOR piercing. This is not the latter. This is a ginned up complaint. How many cases of a police officer being shot with armor piercing ammunition? (besides Lethal Weapon 2) When it comes down to it for civilians, better to be hit with an armor piercing round than those hollow points you're talking about. Armor piercing just goes through and leaves a smallish hole (any hole in your body is a point of concern....just sayin)

So...the take away is that the Obama regime is willing to kill more Americans by leaving more effective ammunition on the street in order to make a political point by banning "armor piercing" ammunition.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Armor piercing? There's armor piercing and there is ARMOR piercing. This is not the latter. This is a ginned up complaint. How many cases of a police officer being shot with armor piercing ammunition? (besides Lethal Weapon 2) When it comes down to it for civilians, better to be hit with an armor piercing round than those hollow points you're talking about. Armor piercing just goes through and leaves a smallish hole (any hole in your body is a point of concern....just sayin)

So...the take away is that the Obama regime is willing to kill more Americans by leaving more effective ammunition on the street in order to make a political point by banning "armor piercing" ammunition.

LMAO how many cases did you run out to buy barleycornball? The sheep can't tell the diff between AP rounds and regular ammo, they are snapping up anything available. Get it now the government is coming for your ammo!!!!