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Old 07-06-2014, 11:24 PM   #16
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Then you think it is ok for a person who has invested in a college education. Come out with a engineering degree to be passed over for a foreign worker?
This has been discussed at length before in this forum.

Obama made election promises to stop companies from shipping jobs overseas. He's done nothing.

Obama appointed among other people, GE CEO Immelt to his jobs council. Immelt was responsible for shipping GE divisions overseas. The Jobs Council was basically ineffective.

It doesn't matter whether the job was shipped overseas or they bring a foreigner in via a H1B1 visa or they offshore the job via a fiber optic cable, the result is the same. Well, OK, if a H1B1 visa is concerned the Feds get some taxes out of it as opposed to the other two. Probably doesn't offset the overall long term loss in taxes.

The overall issue is that American firms want to drive the cost of production down. They do that by reducing the labor cost. Things like Obamacare, social security, liability insurance, EEOC regulation, etc drive companies away from American workers. It didn't start with Obama and it won't end with him either.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:14 AM   #17
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What exactly does immigration reform have to do with illegal immigration. Might as well reform the laws on murder to quiet the violence in Chicago. The only way that works is to loosen them and allow some crimes.
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Typical right wing contempt. it is always Obama's fault.
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:56 AM   #19
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Typical right wing contempt. it is always Obama's fault.
Slight correction: Prior to Obama coming onto the scene, everything was always Clinton's fault. Since Clinton is now an afterthought, everything automatically defaulted into Obama's lap as if George W. Bush or his Dad were never POTUS.

For example: The two wars that begin between 2001-2008 were actually Clinton's fault because he failed to act and/or Obama's fault because he did not act quickly enough. The same holds true with the stock market crash which occurred on September 15, 2008. That economic disaster was either Clinton's fault due to the failed economic policies that led to the best economy of our lifetime or it was Obama's fault because he did not end the recession by January 22, 2009.

It's really quite simple!

All future blame will continue to default to Obama until the next Democrat becomes POTUS. At which point everything will then become his/her fault.

It is a vicious cycle with the Far Right-Wing Tea Nuts, everyone is to blame except Republican office holders.
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Old 07-07-2014, 10:08 AM   #20
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So just like the Bush fault.

When are you people going to understand no matter who is in office the other party is to blame?
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:00 PM   #21
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A couple of people are at fault:

Jimmy Carter for treating Yassir Arafat like a diplomat rather than a terrorist. Gave him a stage to demagogue from and some protection against assassination.
Jimmy Carter for forcing the Shah to bring the Ayatollay back to Iran which caused the overthrow of that regime and the beginning of state backed terrorism.

Jimmy Carter is the God Father of modern international terrorism.

Bill Clinton was contacted by Sudan about having us take a guy named Osams Bin Laden out of their country. He refused even though OBL had already committed acts of terrorism against US citizens and property. Sudan contacted Bill twice more (total of three attempts) and three times Bill refused. He later admitted that he screwed up by not grabbing OBL. According to CIA director George Tennant, Clinton asked what would happen to OBLs plans if he were shipped to some other country like Afghanistan. They told him that any operations against the US would be delayed until 2001. Clinton mused about that and said that he would no longer be president and it wouldn't be his problem then. Clinton told Sudan to send OBL to Afghanistan.

Bill Clinton is the God Father of 9/11.
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WTF has that to do with the OP other than get your rant in?
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We are distracted with the southern border. "Look a Squirrel"... mean while on the Canadian border..

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/mic...tion-colander/

Border Security and the Immigration Colander


July 7, 2014 by Michael Cutler


When you consider how many ways an alien may enter the United States it is absurd to focus all attention on just the Southwest Border of the United States that involves just four of America’s 50 states.



In point of fact, it has been estimated that 40% of the illegal aliens who are present in the United States did not run our border and evade the inspections process that is supposed to prevent the entry of aliens whose presence would be harmful to America or Americans but entered the United States through ports of entry and went on, in various ways, to violate the terms of their admission into the United States.

Furthermore, some illegal aliens gain entry into the United States by stowing away on ships, illegal disembark from ships on which they work and are referred to as “ship-jumpers” or enter without inspection from Canada.

Yet the immigration debate has disingenuously focused nearly exclusively, on the need to secure America’s Southwest Border that is supposed to separate the United States from Mexico.

Of course, given the ongoing crisis involving tens of thousands of unaccompanied minor illegal aliens, primarily from Central America, who are showing up along the Southwest Border of the United States having illegally entered the United States, it is clear that this border must be made secure. However, it is foolhardy to not pay attention to all of the other entry points and methods of entry employed by illegal aliens. It is no less foolish to ignore the other failings of the immigration system that enable criminals and terrorists to game the process by which visas are issued and immigration benefits are conferred upon aliens.

The easiest way to visualize the immigration system is to consider the configuration of a colander.

The Merriam-Webster online dictionary defines a colander thusly:

col·an·der noun \ˈkä-lən-dər, ˈkə-\

: a bowl that has many small holes and that is used for washing or draining food



Consider that each of the holes in the colander is comparable to a hole in the immigration system. Politicians who attempt to convince us that all that is necessary as a pre-requisite for implementing Comprehensive Immigration Reform is to secure the US/Mexican border are, in essence, claiming that if you plug one hole in the bottom of a colander it could then be used as a bucket to carry water.

How preposterous is that?

If you want to use a colander as a bucket to carry water, all of the holes need to be plugged.

No less than national security and public safety hang in the balance.

Imagine that from time to time that colander is not used to carry water but a deadly liquid, that must not be released. This is not unlike the fact that among the aliens seeking to enter the United States in violation of our laws, are terrorists and pernicious criminals with deadly intentions.

Yet the politicians are so hell-bent on passing Comprehensive Immigration Reform that they willfully ignore the other failures of the immigration system upon which national security depends.

Think back to the politicians who, in the wake of the terror attacks of September 11, 2001, demanded to know “Why no one connected the dots?” Think back to the statements frequently made that the terrorists need to get it right only once while our government needs to get it right 100% of the time.

Each hole in the colander represents a hole in the system which must get it right 100% of the time.

The concept of getting it right at all times was, and continues to be used, as justification for the continual erosion of our expectations of privacy and freedom.

This concept is used as justification for the ever more invasive search we are forced to undergo before boarding airliners. Indeed, we generally accept these invasive searches because of our concerns about the potential that hijackers could once again take control of an airliner and use it as a de facto cruise missile.

However, there are many ways that terrorists can launch attacks inside the United States that don’t involve airliners, as we saw on May 1, 2010 when Faisal Shahzad, a naturalized U.S. citizen who had immigrated to the United States from Pakistan and naturalized the year before he attempted to set off a car bomb, parked in highly congested “Crossroads of the World,” Times Square.

At the time of his arrest two days after the attempted attack, Shahzad was arrested as he sat on an an Emirates Airline flight waiting to take off for Dubai. Reportedly more than a dozen of his accomplices were arrested in Pakistan. All were reportedly acting under the direction of the Taliban.

On April 15, 2013 the Tsarnaev brothers carried out a deadly attack on the Boston Marathon. The Tsarnaev family had been granted political asylum in the United States when they claimed “credible fear” that they could not safely return to their native Russia — that they would face persecution or worse. No sooner had their applications for asylum been approved than they voluntarily returned to Russia. It would certainly appear that they committed fraud in their applications.

On May 2, 2013 I was interviewed by Megyn Kelly of Fox News to discuss the immigration aspects of this case. Fox News posted a video of the interview on its website with the title: “Immigration Expert: The System Failed in Boston and Keeps on Failing.”

Our government should be as determined to keep terrorists and transnational criminals out of the United States as it is determined to prevent terrorists from gaining access to airliners.

Yet our government refuses to do what is necessary to prevent the entry of international terrorists and transnational criminals into the United States. As a consequence we live among millions of illegal aliens who evaded the inspections process conducted at ports of entry by CBP (Customs and Border Protection) Inspectors, that is supposed to keep dangerous foreign nationals out of the United States.

Consider the first paragraph found in the preface of the The 9/11 Commission Staff Report on Terrorist Travel:

“It is perhaps obvious to state that terrorists cannot plan and carry out attacks in the United States if they are unable to enter the country. Yet prior to September 11, while there were efforts to enhance border security, no agency of the U.S. government thought of border security as a tool in the counterterrorism arsenal. Indeed, even after 19 hijackers demonstrated the relative ease of obtaining a U.S. visa and gaining admission into the United States, border security still is not considered a cornerstone of national security policy. We believe, for reasons we discuss in the following pages, that it must be made one.”

If you doubt that our borders lack integrity, you may certainly consider the situation unfolding on the Southwest Border that has, of late, garnered such focused press coverage. You may also consider that the United States is currently suffering from such a massive epidemic of heroin overdoses that police departments across the United States have taken to the unprecedented strategy of providing their officers with the antidote to heroin overdoses.

Heroin and cocaine are produced outside the United States. Every gram of heroin and every gram of cocaine present in the United States represent incontrovertible evidence of a failure of border security.

It is worth noting that the proceeds from the sale of heroin and cocaine enrich the coffers of transnational criminal organizations and terrorist organizations, further endangering America and Americans. It is worth noting that there is a direct nexus between drug use and crime- indeed, it is believed that the majority of crime, especially violent crime is connected to narcotics trafficking and the use of illegal drugs.

On July 4, 2014 NewsMax posted an article, “Rep. Michael McCaul: Military Bases Turning Into Refugee Camps” that began with the following paragraph:

Texas lawmakers have demanded that President Barack Obama finally secure the border, saying military bases are being overwhelmed as they house thousands of illegal immigrant children pouring into the United States every month.

The article further noted:

During a Homeland Security Committee field hearing in McAllen, Texas, attended by Texas Gov. Rick Perry, McCaul said that government statistics show 70 percent of the alien children risk life and limb to get into the United States illegally because they believe they will be allowed to stay.

“The border between the U.S. and Mexico is less secure than at any point in the recent past,” Perry told the field hearing, according to the Times. “Secure this border, Mr. president. Finally, address this issue and secure this border.”

Finally it is worthwhile considering this quote attributed to Rep. Bob Goodlatte the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee:

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican, said Border Patrol agents had told GOP and Democratic lawmakers during their field trip that “the best way to stop this crisis is through deterrence,” The Washington Times reported. “They were very clear that deterrence must be the focus and there must be an end to the so-called catch-and-release policy.”

Chairman Goodlatte is absolutely correct — effective deterrence is undoubtedly the only effective solution to the immigration crisis confronting America and Americans today.

However, thus far, precious few members of Congress are willing to go beyond the concept of securing the Southwest border to include plugging the other gaping holes in the immigration system that go well beyond the U.S./Mexican border.

“The Social Contract,” a quarterly journal, published my article, “Political Asylum: Where Compassion and National Security Intersect” in its Summer, 2013 edition, on how fraud in the political asylum program currently enables our enemies to see in America’s compassion, weakness.

On November 20, 2013, ABC News published this disconcerting article “Exclusive: US May Have Let ‘Dozens’ of Terrorists Into Country As Refugees.”

On December 1, 2013 the Huffington Post ran a worrying report: “America Is ‘Less Safe’ Than 2 Years Ago, Intelligence Committee Chairs Say”

The report focused on statements made by Senator Dianne Feinstein, who chairs the Senate’s Intelligence Committee, when she was interviewed for CNN’s program, “State of the Union.”

Here is how the report began:

Interviewed on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said she believed that there are now more terrorists with the technological means to carry out a bombing in the U.S.

Here is an additional important excerpt from the Huffington Post article:

“I think terror is up worldwide,” said Feinstein, who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee. “There are new bombs, very big bombs, trucks being reinforced for those bombs. There are bombs that go through magnetometers. The bomb-maker is still alive. There are more groups than ever. And there is huge malevolence out there.”

Feinstein added that there was “a real displaced aggression in this very fundamentalist jihadist Islamic community, and that is that the West is responsible for everything that goes wrong and that the only thing that’s going to solve this is Islamic Sharia law.”

On the same day, December 1, 2013 Newsmax posted the report that provided an even more dire warning: “Sen. Feinstein, Rep. Rogers: Terror Threat Greater Than Before Sept 11″

This report began with this unambiguous assessment:

The U.S. is in greater danger of a terrorist attack than it was prior to September 11 and has less ability to prevent such aggression by Islamist radicals, key congressional intelligence leaders said Sunday.

The report ended with the following statement:

Feinstein is pushing legislation to protect NSA practices but require more congressional reporting.

Feinstein is willing to accept a loss of privacy in the name of national security while she blithely ignores anything that relates to the 9/11 Commission, its findings or its recommendations. She has many like-minded colleagues on both sides of the political aisle and in both the Senate and House of Representatives.

These politicians need to hear from their constituents, especially as election day approaches.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.
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Jimmy Carter is the God Father of modern international terrorism.
The only way this could be true is if Jimmy Carter taught you how to type.
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It is called barley blame.
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BILL WHITTLE: WHERE DO YOU LIVE, MARK ZUCKERBERG?


Published on Jul 9, 2014
The crisis on the Mexican border is worsening by the hour. In his latest FIREWALL, Bill Whittle hammers home three devastating points regarding the dangerous legal precedents, the morally gray areas, and the hypocritical pose of unearned moral superiority on the part of those proposing amnesty and open borders.



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SNICK!
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Arizona ranchers invite Nancy for a look...



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