Climate change .. the SCAM.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

You have posted no articles, just your opinion which is worthless. Cartoon pics, LMFAO.

I don't have to post articles to refute the nonsense you post. I can do that with knowledge and common sense alone. Something you've never had, for if you did you wouldn't post anecdotal crap like you do.


Jim

[CuteOldGuy]

LittleLiberalEva thinks that posting some claptrap from a liberal website can substitute for his inability to generate an independent, original thought. He never posts comments about his links, so it is doubtful he even understands the links he posts. He knows they're liberal, and that's enough for him. It's more sad than annoying. You gotta feel sorry for the guy, poor, ignorant, racist clown. He needs help. I hope he gets the help he needs.

[eyefo]

Wow.... having read through a good deal of this thread, I think i'va biggen
has been successful at thoroughly convincing a lot of people.

Assuming providers can or have read this thread, no doubt he's convinced them he's a total loon and they've placed him on their permanent Do Not See list!

Biggen hasn't stopped "climate change" with all his yammering, but I bet he's really cooled off his hobbying career!

Just sayin'

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by eyefo

Wow.... having read through a good deal of this thread, I think i'va biggen
has been successful at thoroughly convincing a lot of people.

Assuming providers can or have read this thread, no doubt he's convinced them he's a total loon and they've placed him on their permanent Do Not See list!

Biggen hasn't stopped "climate change" with all his yammering, but I bet he's really cooled off his hobbying career!

Just sayin'

I'll respond to your post like this. There is an abundant amount of information on Global Warming/Climate Change. Most of it is inaccurate in terms of it being " Man Induced". The Earth consists of variations of Climate which will in term produce specific whether patterns. Now if C02 is the main culprit of Global Warming that would indicate that a significant spike in the Earth's C02 level has occurred. As it currently stands the Earth's atmosphere consists of 0.03% C02. That's a free form of C02 that is usable by the environment. Now as man burns fossil fuel through the burning of coal and oil how much of that usage would have to be saturated into the environment and raise the free form level of C02 in the atmosphere to raise Global Temperatures by one degree? That's how you get Global Warming thus climate change. I haven't been able to find the answer. What we essentially get from fossil fuels is air pollution in various degrees, in various locations at various times. In order for Global Warming to actually affect climate the chemical parameters of our atmosphere would have to change, and it isn't. With that being said "Global Warming" has more impact on people's minds than it does on the Earth.

Jim

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

I don't have to post articles to refute the nonsense you post. I can do that with knowledge and common sense alone. Something you've never had, for if you did you wouldn't post anecdotal crap like you do.


Jim

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

LittleLiberalEva thinks that posting some claptrap from a liberal website can substitute for his inability to generate an independent, original thought. He never posts comments about his links, so it is doubtful he even understands the links he posts. He knows they're liberal, and that's enough for him. It's more sad than annoying. You gotta feel sorry for the guy, poor, ignorant, racist clown. He needs help. I hope he gets the help he needs.

Originally Posted by eyefo

Wow.... having read through a good deal of this thread, I think i'va biggen
has been successful at thoroughly convincing a lot of people.

Assuming providers can or have read this thread, no doubt he's convinced them he's a total loon and they've placed him on their permanent Do Not See list!

Biggen hasn't stopped "climate change" with all his yammering, but I bet he's really cooled off his hobbying career!

Just sayin'

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

I'll respond to your post like this. There is an abundant amount of information on Global Warming/Climate Change. Most of it is inaccurate in terms of it being " Man Induced". The Earth consists of variations of Climate which will in term produce specific whether patterns. Now if C02 is the main culprit of Global Warming that would indicate that a significant spike in the Earth's C02 level has occurred. As it currently stands the Earth's atmosphere consists of 0.03% C02. That's a free form of C02 that is usable by the environment. Now as man burns fossil fuel through the burning of coal and oil how much of that usage would have to be saturated into the environment and raise the free form level of C02 in the atmosphere to raise Global Temperatures by one degree? That's how you get Global Warming thus climate change. I haven't been able to find the answer. What we essentially get from fossil fuels is air pollution in various degrees, in various locations at various times. In order for Global Warming to actually affect climate the chemical parameters of our atmosphere would have to change, and it isn't. With that being said "Global Warming" has more impact on people's minds than it does on the Earth.

Jim

Sing along...three blind mice see how they run.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

you should take me off "ignore" you whore, you might learn the truth. bitch.

I'll give you an assist here Kid. Mebbe , once EKIM returns from his labors at the KanASS gloryholes and picking dingleberries, he'll SEE your post HERE ! It will probably strain him to remove his head from his ass long enough to do so, be we can all hope !

[Guest042616-1]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

I'll respond to your post like this. There is an abundant amount of information on Global Warming/Climate Change. Most of it is inaccurate in terms of it being " Man Induced". The Earth consists of variations of Climate which will in term produce specific whether patterns. Now if C02 is the main culprit of Global Warming that would indicate that a significant spike in the Earth's C02 level has occurred. As it currently stands the Earth's atmosphere consists of 0.03% C02. That's a free form of CO2 that is usable by the environment.

First of all, it is Cee Oh 2. Not Cee Zero Two.

Second, CO2 has spiked, it's up over 25% since we started directly measuring it in the 50s. Based on indirect measurements, over the past 150 years, it's gone up from 285 to over 400. An increase of of about 40%.

On top of that, you have to go back at least 800k years to see it as high as it is right now. Some estimates put it as high as 15 millions years.

Now as man burns fossil fuel through the burning of coal and oil how much of that usage would have to be saturated into the environment and raise the free form level of C02 in the atmosphere to raise Global Temperatures by one degree?

It depends on how much there is currently in the atmosphere. The curve is not linear.

In order for Global Warming to actually affect climate the chemical parameters of our atmosphere would have to change, and it isn't.

What do you mean by "parameters" because the composition of the atmosphere has definitely changed over the past past 150 years, seeing drastic increase in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by eatfibo

First of all, it is Cee Oh 2. Not Cee Zero Two.

Second, CO2 has spiked, it's up over 25% since we started directly measuring it in the 50s. Based on indirect measurements, over the past 150 years, it's gone up from 285 to over 400. An increase of of about 40%.

On top of that, you have to go back at least 800k years to see it as high as it is right now. Some estimates put it as high as 15 millions years.


It depends on how much there is currently in the atmosphere. The curve is not linear.


What do you mean by "parameters" because the composition of the atmosphere has definitely changed over the past past 150 years, seeing drastic increase in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

Well if that is true then we are breathing in dangerous levels of CO2 then we should be seeing more than just a warming of the Earth we should also see wide spread health problem and even casualties directly related from an increase of CO2 in the air we breath. Show me some pertinent data on that. What you're actually describing is air pollution.

Jim

[Guest042616-1]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Well if that is true then we are breathing in dangerous levels of CO2 then we should be seeing more than just a warming of the Earth we should also see wide spread health problem and even casualties directly related from an increase of CO2 in the air we breath.

Any evidence to back this claim up? According to OSHA, the acceptable limit is 0.5% (for an 8 hour work day, but it was the best number I could come up with quickly), which is 5000 ppm. We are at 400 ppm, so you would need to see 1250% increase where we are. Probably a little less, as I am sure that 24 hours exposure would be worse than 8 hr. But, still, we are talking an order of magnitude higher than we see right now.

Show me some pertinent data on that.

OK.

What you're actually describing is air pollution.

Yes, by definition, adding something to the air that has a damaging effect on life on earth is "pollution." CO2, because it is the main contributor to global warming, certainly can be (and is) considered a air pollution.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by eatfibo

Any evidence to back this claim up? According to OSHA, the acceptable limit is 0.5% (for an 8 hour work day, but it was the best number I could come up with quickly), which is 5000 ppm. We are at 400 ppm, so you would need to see 1250% increase where we are. Probably a little less, as I am sure that 24 hours exposure would be worse than 8 hr. But, still, we are talking an order of magnitude higher than we see right now.


OK.


Yes, by definition, adding something to the air that has a damaging effect on life on earth is "pollution." CO2, because it is the main contributor to global warming, certainly can be (and is) considered a air pollution.

But is CO2 actually Changing The Climate? Think of the State in which you live and the Climate of that particular region. Although there maybe fluctuations periodically, has "Global Warming" really changed it? When we think of Global Warming or Climate Change it appears temperature is the big issue. There's more to Climate than just temperature, and it would take more than just a spike in CO2 to change climate to any perilous extent.

Jim

[Guest042616-1]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

But is CO2 actually Changing The Climate? Think of the State in which you live and the Climate of that particular region.
Although there maybe fluctuations periodically, has "Global Warming" really changed it? When we think of Global Warming or Climate Change it appears temperature is the big issue. There's more to Climate than just temperature, and it would take more than just a spike in CO2 to change climate to any perilous extent.

Climate is, by definition, the "average" weather for a region over a long period of time. That time period is generally accepted to be about 30 years. On top of that, it is a slow process. So unless you are approaching 90 years old, you likely aren't going to have seen a very significant change in the climate for your region. Even if you had, because of short term randomness, especially when looking at one specific region, it wouldn't really represent anything because it could be easily just natural variance.

We have to look at the system as a whole. And, yes, over the past 30 years, the average temperature across the US universally is up from the 1970s. There is no doubt that the climate is changing in the US. Most deniers have had to accept the reality that the earth is, in fact, changing and getting warmer. The new denials are no longer that the earth is changing, but that humans have nothing to do with it.

On top of that, if we wait until the climate starts to change drastically before we admit that the obviously changing climate is changing, it is going to be too late to stave off some of the most disastrous consequences. It might already be too late.

The issue isn't right mostly in the present. We know this. The issue is that we know that what we have already done to the atmosphere is setting us up for problems in the future. We can't just flip off a switch and everything will go back to normal. If we were to continue with our current pace of burning fossil fuels until we ran out, it would be at least tens of thousands of years before the earth returned to "normal."

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

I'll give you an assist here Kid. Mebbe , once EKIM returns from his labors at the KanASS gloryholes and picking dingleberries, he'll SEE your post HERE ! It will probably strain him to remove his head from his ass long enough to do so, be we can all hope !

LMAO, giving the whackoff kid a hand job, what is your jaw sore and no BJ? You are slipping gay rey.

[CuteOldGuy]

Climate is measured over a 30 year time frame? Seriously? Sorry, eatfido, you're an idiot. And again, like your buddy LittleLiberalEva, you offer no solutions. You only want to bitch about it. At least you haven't called for non-stop worldwide Olympic Games.

[Guest123018-4]

Climate is changing all the time. Always has and always will.
I am more concerned about a cosmic burp from the sun than the very little that man as a whole can do to the climate. Hell one good volcano can fuck things up for years. One small asteroid could drive us all to extinction.

You go back to living in caves and sod houses and eating all of your food raw making sure you do not cut any trees or start any fires and I will continue along and drive by in my SUV and wave at your stupid ass from the comfort of my Corinthian leather seats while the AC keeps my balls at a nice and comfortable temperature. Suckers.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by The2Dogs

Climate is changing all the time. Always has and always will.
I am more concerned about a cosmic burp from the sun than the very little that man as a whole can do to the climate. Hell one good volcano can fuck things up for years. One small asteroid could drive us all to extinction.

You go back to living in caves and sod houses and eating all of your food raw making sure you do not cut any trees or start any fires and I will continue along and drive by in my SUV and wave at your stupid ass from the comfort of my Corinthian leather seats while the AC keeps my balls at a nice and comfortable temperature. Suckers.

ahahahaha. Corinthian leather. Ricardo Montalbán lol. he admitted to Letterman once that the writers made that line up.




hey assup you pig, why don't you accuse me of high jacking my own thread? ahahahha