Don't forget that Trump is a convicted felon

[greenbook]

Exactly, it was deducted by his corporate interest as a legal expense. That’s tax fraud. Both on the corporate and personal level. It’s also fraudulent on his personal tax return because he didn’t report the payment by his corporations payment to his prostitute as personal income. That’s also tax fraud. And the preparation of financial statements misrepresenting those payments is accounting and securities fraud. Any other person would be sharing a jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein, god rest his soul. Hopefully the orange ape like creature will join Epstein at his destination in the afterlife.

[Tiny]

Well, that makes a difference, that the payments to Cohen were deducted by the Trump Organization. Then the Donald wasn't guiltless. He should have found a way to class them as personal legal expenses, which aren't deductible, even though that might have required him to pay Cohen himself instead of through the Trump Organization. The fact that he didn't indicates he and Weisselberg (Trump's CFO) displayed very poor judgement. And/or they played fast and loose with the tax code.

Anyway the IRS would have probably treated this as a civil violation if the offender weren't Trump and weren't famous. He would paid penalties and interest. But criminal charges? Nah.

It never occurred to me that Trump used the payments as deductions because I didn't think he was that stupid or foolhardy.

Or one other possibility, maybe they did it the way they did so that Melania wouldn't find out in any divorce proceedings. Unusual payments to Cohen from Trump personally might raise a red flag in her attorney's eyes.

[Lucas McCain]

Why are you folks talking about taxes? That had little to do with his conviction. The 34 counts are listed in the link:

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-...rial-34-counts

What was Trump convicted of?

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York. He pleaded not guilty when he was arraigned last year.

In 2017, Cohen and Allen Weisselberg, an executive at the Trump Organization, reached an agreement about how Cohen would be repaid for the $130,000 that he sent to Daniels in exchange for her silence. Weisselberg detailed the calculations in handwritten notes that were shown to the jury at trial.

Cohen would receive $130,000 for the Daniels payment, plus $50,000 intended for a technology company that did unrelated work for Trump. That amount was doubled to account for taxes that Cohen would have to pay on the income. Weisselberg then tacked on an extra $60,000 as a bonus for Cohen, who was upset that his regular year-end award had been cut. The total worked out to $420,000.


On a lighter note, damn these NFL playoff games have sucked today. Haha

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Why are you folks talking about taxes?

Because that's the only charge that wasn't trumped up. Pardon the pun. I actually don't know if any of the 34 counts related to taxes, but everything else he did didn't amount to squat IMO.

[bb1961]

When you have political tunnel vision the best corrective lenses in the world don't mean squat...

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Why is it that every time someone chimes in to support Trump nobody ever says that he didn’t do it.

He did it, he’s a felon, if he didn’t want to break the law he should have incorporated and lived somewhere where they don’t have the same kind of anti corruption and anti fraud laws.

Otherwise you’re pissing into the wind.

Yeah. You probably have 1% of the screamers realize thatn and less fess up to it.

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Actually, Trump is NOT a "convicted felon" until the Judge
passes sentence..

Glad you are in agreement than since sentence was passed. No need to say anything else *UNTIL* that changes.

Originally Posted by Budman

Ya'll are really butt hurt. You defended the biden crime family ..."

Ima gonna quote you out of context so as to narrow it to old joey. If there is some massive criminal organization with his name on it, care to show us the copious cases brought to court during his tenor in the public eye that has to be at least 10 times longer than donny? No need to foam at the mouth any longer. Just post the case docket numbers.

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Another conviction upheld, Trump found guilty by the appeals court in the Eugene Carroll $5 million defamation case. Will Von shitzenpants appeal the defamation ruling of 85 million now??

I guess he could appeal to Elon Musk and have him pay the funding!

Pretty sure all these should have come out WAY earlier.

OH! You don't have to rub it in to the maggies.

Originally Posted by Hdtown

Diaper Don is going to be convicted on Friday, a 34 count FELON.

Did you take any bets on that? Should have cleaned up and have a bunch of crying righties laying around fetal. I see quite a few here.

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Judge Merchan seems to wanna persist with this decision. ...

As are some donny appointed SC justices who let things proceed. Wait. Let me guess. They are RINO judges. But ain't justice suppose to be sans politics? Suppose to.

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Key word: convicted.

:amen:

Originally Posted by greenbook

To be clear, it matters not all how biased a prosecutor might be. I’ve been there. The case is decided by a jury. Of course I get the vibe that you have no respect for our system of jurisprudence, which is shameful. Move to Moscow. Or wait, Trump will reinvent out systems of governance based on the Soviet model. .Still, Teflon John Gotti has nothing on Super Teflon Don Gotti, whops, I meant Don Trump. I know how I’m investing, heavy into inflationary commodities, the mining of rare earth metals, etc. Substantial investments in defense centric companies like Raytheon (my favorite), but also BAE, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, and Boeing. In mining of rare earth metals, I like …. No one cares. Trump will make me richer, though I despise the super morbidly obese fat retard.

Oh. Ima sure he'd like a putin style justice system. Puttie already has a non-secular dictatorship and with evangelicals, donny is sure to want to follow.

Originally Posted by farmstud60

New York is basically the same system as Russia. The Jury was all Democrats most likely, so not even remotely a jury of piers.


The AG and Judge should both be disbarred for not following law.

Is that what they are saying in the Omaho Hog Futures Review? Been following the state of legal affairs in Russia for over a dozen years. You tell me where they bar you from seeing your attorney and summarily pushing you through non-appealed judgements here.

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

After reading the below in the article, what was the point in trying this felony case again (rhetorical question)? What a waste of tax dollars... like I posted earlier in this thread, all felonies are hardly to be considered equal. A fucking speeding ticket is more punitive than this bullshit. Haha

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hus...8b0ea32193e8c4

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett joined with the court’s three liberals in rejecting his emergency motion.

They found his sentencing wouldn’t be a serious burden since Merchan has indicated he won’t give Trump jail time, fines or probation. Trump’s arguments against the verdict, meanwhile, can be handled as part of the regular appeals process, the majority found.

Originally Posted by Hdtown

Convicted today.

Like that will stop their crying.
Maggies don't accept facts.
Example: you will not find one rightie who can say that the, drum roll please, Steele Dossierwas not funded from dollar one by one of their own. They always fast forward to where a demmie came along and dropped change *AFTER* them.

Originally Posted by texassapper

SO?

Quit bitching he is not guilty. Save some bandwidth and move on.

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Magas played the word game here.
So by their definition....TODAY
TRUMPF IS A CONVICTED FELON
LOLLING

Oh. They love those word games. I don't mind them doing it as long as it starts "Convicted felon <insert specific noun for Big Cheato/Melange One/#HeWhoShallBeNamed/etc.>

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

president-elect Trump





Ex president-elect Trump




Ex president-elect Trump




Expresident-elect Trump

FTFY

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Why are you folks talking about taxes? That had little to do with his conviction. The 34 counts are listed in the link:

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-...rial-34-counts

What was Trump convicted of?

Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York. He pleaded not guilty when he was arraigned last year.

In 2017, Cohen and Allen Weisselberg, an executive at the Trump Organization, reached an agreement about how Cohen would be repaid for the $130,000 that he sent to Daniels in exchange for her silence. Weisselberg detailed the calculations in handwritten notes that were shown to the jury at trial.

Cohen would receive $130,000 for the Daniels payment, plus $50,000 intended for a technology company that did unrelated work for Trump. That amount was doubled to account for taxes that Cohen would have to pay on the income. Weisselberg then tacked on an extra $60,000 as a bonus for Cohen, who was upset that his regular year-end award had been cut. The total worked out to $420,000.


On a lighter note, damn these NFL playoff games have sucked today. Haha

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Because that's the only charge that wasn't trumped up. Pardon the pun. I actually don't know if any of the 34 counts related to taxes, but everything else he did didn't amount to squat IMO.

Tiny, I was just trying to clarify what Trump was actually convicted of instead of discussing shit that was irrelevant because many obviously don't even know what the specific counts are yet post as if they do.

I understand that by the letter of the law that it was a just conviction, but common sense just makes me roll my eyes and ask while temporarily confused, "Seriously? You went after him for this bullshit? What about the real felonies that old shit bag committed?"

[Hdtown]

At the end of the day, Diaper Don is still a felon and a great starter conversation at the dinner table, tell the family what you did 😀

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Hdtown

At the end of the day, Diaper Don is still a felon and a great starter conversation at the dinner table, tell the family what you did 😀

... Just not for long...

#### Salty

[Budman]

Originally Posted by Hdtown

At the end of the day, Diaper Don is still a felon and a great starter conversation at the dinner table, tell the family what you did 😀

I always tell them that we saved the USA. Thank God for Trump.

[Precious_b]

So much for saving bandwidth.

[Jacky S]

PRESIDENT ELECT DONALD TRUMP!!

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Tiny, I was just trying to clarify what Trump was actually convicted of instead of discussing shit that was irrelevant because many obviously don't even know what the specific counts are yet post as if they do.

I understand that by the letter of the law that it was a just conviction, but common sense just makes me roll my eyes and ask while temporarily confused, "Seriously? You went after him for this bullshit? What about the real felonies that old shit bag committed?"

Agreed McCain, you shouldn't prosecute or sue people for bullshit, which is what happened to Trump more than once in Manhattan. On the other hand, Jack Smith's charges, in particular the ones that were going to be tried in Washington, D.C., had real merit.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Tiny

On the other hand, Jack Smith's charges, in particular the ones that were going to be tried in Washington, D.C., had real merit.

... No, they didn't.

#### Salty

[RALPHEY BOY]

And don't forget he won the election and popular vote. So who fucking cares?? I know, losers who have TDS.