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I B Hankering · 06-21-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

The US has always had a policy of giving people, who would be endangered by sending them back to their country of origin, sanctuary. That is an established policy that has been in effect for a long time.

There is no claim that the citizens of Mexico would be endangered by them returning to Mexico.

+1

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Originally Posted by CJ7

not that it matters to dumb shits like IB but they/he might as well chew on this

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12711

notice the wording IB .. AS THE PRESIDENT BY THE CONSTITUTION

now go fuck yourself

Notice the wording, CBJ7 (and when you're done, shove your keyboard up your hairy-ass and swirl):

Executive Order 12711

Signed by President George Herbert Walker Bush April 11, 1990 – after the violence at Tiananmen Square

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, the Attorney General and the Secretary of State are hereby ordered to exercise their authority, including that under the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101-1557)" -- a law passed by Congress.
8 USC § 1158 - Asylum -- a law passed by Congress
(a) Authority to apply for asylum
(1) In general Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225 (b) of this title.

(c) Asylum status
(1) In general In the case of an alien granted asylum under subsection (b) of this section, the Attorney General—
(A) shall not remove or return the alien to the alien’s country of nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, the country of the alien’s last habitual residence;
(B) shall authorize the alien to engage in employment in the United States and provide the alien with appropriate endorsement of that authorization; and
(C) may allow the alien to travel abroad with the prior consent of the Attorney General.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158

Doove · 06-21-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

The US has always had a policy of giving people, who would be endangered by sending them back to their country of origin, sanctuary. That is an established policy that has been in effect for a long time.

There is no claim that the citizens of Mexico would be endangered by them returning to Mexico.

Policy schmolicy. An Executive Order to halt deportation is either legal or it's not. Unless, of course, you can show me what IB Hankering can't - the legal qualifier set forth to establish the distinction under the law.

CJ7 · 06-21-2012, 03:07 PM

G-dubya issued an EO to give stem cells asylum ....

CJ7 · 06-21-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Doove

Policy schmolicy. An Executive Order to halt deportation is either legal or it's not. Unless, of course, you can show me what IB Hankering can't - the legal qualifier set forth to establish the distinction under the law.

its totally legal, the rightwingers are whining because they think it gave Obie an edge with latino votersAND most importantly they got their stupid asses PUNKED! ... months before the EO was issued Romney didnt have enough latino support to buy a fucking taco, the numbers havent changed either ... Romney had less than 26-7% then just like he does now ... its more of a Catholic-Morman issue than it is a freakin executive order.

I B Hankering · 06-21-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Doove

Policy schmolicy. An Executive Order to halt deportation is either legal or it's not. Unless, of course, you can show me what IB Hankering can't - the legal qualifier set forth to establish the distinction under the law.

Fuck you too, Doofus. See @:

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=136

joe bloe · 06-21-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Fuck you too, Doofus. See @:

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=136

It's fun watching you beat up Doofus. I think I may make some popcorn!

Here's a video of Rush kicking ass. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMshhyIpiA

CJ7 · 06-21-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by joe bloe

It's fun watching you beat up Doofus. I think I may make some popcorn!

Here's a video of Rush kicking ass. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMshhyIpiA

one idiot impresses another and its popcorn and a movie time !!!

LMTAO

you fuckers are pathetic/funny

Doove · 06-21-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Fuck you too, Doofus. See @:

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=136

Proves nothing. If Bush 41 was relying on a law that was already on the books, there'd have been no reason for an Executive Order. The Executive Order was to make up his own law. Or rather, to restate the terms of the law to coincide with how he then wanted it enforced. Duh.

I B Hankering · 06-21-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Doove

Proves nothing. If Bush 41 was relying on a law that was already on the books, there'd have been no reason for an Executive Order. The Executive Order was to make up his own law. Or rather, to restate the terms of the law to coincide with how he then wanted it enforced. Duh.

Dumb ass! Executive Orders are used to expedite the enforcement of U.S. laws, Doofus.

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Originally Posted by CJ7

one idiot impresses another and its popcorn and a movie time !!!

LMTAO

you fuckers are pathetic/funny

CBJ7, you and Doofus are absolutely pathetic . . . and it isn't funny to see how seriously misguided you two are.

CJ7 · 06-21-2012, 04:44 PM

EO's are used for several reasons ... most actually change the existing laws not expidite them

any idiot know that ... except IB

I B Hankering · 06-21-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ7

EO's are used for several reasons ... most actually change the existing laws not expidite them

any idiot know that ... except IB

Only an idiot like CBJ7 thinks the executive branch can make laws. (Hint, dumb ass, read the Constitution.)

CuteOldGuy · 06-21-2012, 05:02 PM

Here's an example of an excellent EO, which all Presidents should follow.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_...OpenGovernment

CJ7 · 06-21-2012, 05:05 PM

[QUOTE=I B Hankering;2830054]Only an idiot like CBJ7 thinks the executive branch can make laws. (Hint, dumb ass, read the Constitution.)

an EO becomes law 30 days later.

CuteOldGuy · 06-21-2012, 05:14 PM

Hey, CBJ7, what do you think of the EO I linked to? I'm sure you will be able to find someone to explain it to you.

Doove · 06-21-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Dumb ass! Executive Orders are used to expedite the enforcement of U.S. laws, Doofus.

Expedite the enforcement? What the heck does that even mean? Make the law scheduled to take effect on 1/1/13, take effect on 1/1/12? Make it so they can ignore the part of the law whereby asylum seekers need to apply for asylum?

What are you talking about.