report on the Erotic Review

[geck]

Nor sure if this is the right forum, but this just came out yesterday (not new news, just an update on previous info).

from: http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Ap....asp?NaID=5695


1. The Vice Section has effectively shut down escort websites that blatantly advertise activities that are illegal in Maryland. No other crime is so openly confessed to in any forum as the crime of human trafficking. The Vice Section is using a variety of investigative techniques to make web hosts accountable for their complicity in the advertising of human trafficking. Consequently, Web Hosts are eliminating the internet site from their servers. This tactic has eliminated the internet sites for TGND Talent, Diamond Escorts, and Desirable Companions. Sadly, these sites are now moving to servers outside the USA to continue their illegal activities.

2. The Vice Section has effectively infiltrated the Erotic Review website and identified key members of the group. The Erotic Review is a website where members openly confess to illegal activities. The website’s members rate women’s appearance, sexual performance, etc. while providing information on contact numbers, organized crime outfits, and local police activities.

3. The Vice Section through plea agreements is now operating established and once legitimate escort internet sites where “johns” are currently providing names, places of employment, and contact numbers as if they are communicating with the now defunct service. These contacts are being utilized to arrange “john stings” and identify individuals on the demand side of human trafficking.

4. The Montgomery County Police Department has established a spread sheet that identifies all individuals advertising and participating in human trafficking in the jurisdiction of Montgomery County. This spreadsheet identifies participants in human trafficking by name, alias, escort service, telephone number, etc. The primary internet advertisers of human trafficking (EROS and Backpage) are being officially notified that these specific individuals are utilizing their site to participate in illegal activities. The Vice Section is also requesting that Backpage and EROS discontinue the future advertisement of these individuals or be prepared to be found complicit in the crime of human trafficking.

5. The official notification to EROS and Backpage that probable cause exists that specific services and individuals have been found to be involved in human trafficking/prostitution and are utilizing their site to promote their illegal activities will eliminate their thinly veiled defense that they are not actively participating in prostitution. This official notification will place these sites into the position of possible civil and criminal ramifications for failure to refuse these individuals advertising space on the sites.

6. The Vice Section has initiated outreach to individuals working in the sex trade. The goal of this outreach program is to provide workers in the sex trade industry a safe place to report violence against them. This outreach has resulted in one arrest warrant for robbery and a second report that should result in a warrant for violence committed against a sex worker.

The trafficked individuals are the face of the business and consequently the most exposed and accountable to law enforcement and the judiciary. The true profiteers of human trafficking have learned to make large profits while allowing others to take all the risk. These legal investigative tactics are bringing vice investigations into the 21st century and making everyone involved in the organized crime of human trafficking accountable for their actions.

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[Sensia]

Ok, maybe the board owner and moderators need to contact a good attorney, and decide what changes need to be made on this board to protect legitimate providers and hobbyists from this sort of thing. Can a verification of age be given if one registers with this board? Do the agencies, and the spas need to show proof ladies are of legal age, and voluntarily consenting to their line of work? We need to seriously consider what we need to do to protect this board and like boards from being a target, IMO.

[geck]

Originally Posted by Guilty Pleasures

Ok, maybe the board owner and moderators need to contact a good attorney, and decide what changes need to be made on this board to protect legitimate providers and hobbyists from this sort of thing. Can a verification of age be given if one registers with this board? Do the agencies, and the spas need to show proof ladies are of legal age, and voluntarily consenting to their line of work? We need to seriously consider what we need to do to protect this board and like boards from being a target, IMO.

I'm pretty new, but it sounds like a good idea!

[tjonesd]

Originally Posted by Guilty Pleasures

Ok, maybe the board owner and moderators need to contact a good attorney, and decide what changes need to be made on this board to protect legitimate providers and hobbyists from this sort of thing. Can a verification of age be given if one registers with this board? Do the agencies, and the spas need to show proof ladies are of legal age, and voluntarily consenting to their line of work? We need to seriously consider what we need to do to protect this board and like boards from being a target, IMO.

Personally, I would start by stopping Google from indexing the pages on eccie. (i.e. Modify the robots.txt file.)

A couple of days ago I saw a review that with only a phone number listed. http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?p=737647
I did a Google search on the number and got a hit on a local spa. Google Maps has a "place page" for most businesses. If you click on this one, you see:

Reviews from around the web

eccie.net - 2 reviews
"San Antonio Near 410 and Bandera Spa CBJ , CG, Mish, K9, HJ, DATY, NE, SE, LT 1 Hour 1 Long black hair. It went down almost to her ass 2 Vietnamiese (I asked Very much a spinner. The girl is only 4'6" tall! Very petite and not an ounce of ..."‎ ‎ - Jan 8, 2010 - Full review »
"San Antonio Near Bandera and 410 Spa LT+++ 1 Hour Dark brown hair which came down about 7 inches past her shoulders 2 Asian Decent looking face and nice breasts (they feel like manmade C's. The rest is average at best. Very doughy ..."‎ ‎ - Jan 4, 2010

My jaw dropped - it wouldn't take much for the wrong person to stumble across something like this and quickly figure out what the acronyms meant. I've read older posts about the desire to grow the site through Google indexing, but this is just asking for trouble from LE or some local news reporter.

-Tom

[Sensia]

When the hobby is too public and in peoples faces..then you see people complain to law enforcement, and it forces them to try and do something about it.

[SFviii]

There's a lengthy discussion about that article in the TER discussion boards. They mentioned to be careful in regards to suspicious handles/usernames. Even in the old ASPD days, there have been posts about LE presence in all the boards. Since ASPD is off-line, don't be surprise about Eccie, TOB and many others.

TER is owned by a foreign company based in Holland and their servers are also overseas. It was sold and its not in California anymore. It depends on your level of security like P411 is based in Canada.

Stay safe...

[macksback]

Be careful out there.

[ErectionDemolitionSpclst]

Originally Posted by shootfighter08

There's a lengthy discussion about that article in the TER discussion boards. They mentioned to be careful in regards to suspicious handles/usernames. Even in the old ASPD days, there have been posts about LE presence in all the boards. Since ASPD is off-line, don't be surprise about Eccie, TOB and many others.

TER is owned by a foreign company based in Holland and their servers are also overseas. It was sold and its not in California anymore. It depends on your level of security like P411 is based in Canada.

Stay safe...

Where on TER? Just cannot find it...Doh! (lol)

[SFviii]

Originally Posted by ErectionDemolitionSpclst

Where on TER? Just cannot find it...Doh! (lol)

DC section is one.

[jenna_purr]

Originally Posted by geck

Nor sure if this is the right forum, but this just came out yesterday (not new news, just an update on previous info).

from: http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Ap....asp?NaID=5695


1. The Vice Section has effectively shut down escort websites that blatantly advertise activities that are illegal in Maryland. No other crime is so openly confessed to in any forum as the crime of human trafficking. The Vice Section is using a variety of investigative techniques to make web hosts accountable for their complicity in the advertising of human trafficking. Consequently, Web Hosts are eliminating the internet site from their servers. This tactic has eliminated the internet sites for TGND Talent, Diamond Escorts, and Desirable Companions. Sadly, these sites are now moving to servers outside the USA to continue their illegal activities.

2. The Vice Section has effectively infiltrated the Erotic Review website and identified key members of the group. The Erotic Review is a website where members openly confess to illegal activities. The website’s members rate women’s appearance, sexual performance, etc. while providing information on contact numbers, organized crime outfits, and local police activities.

3. The Vice Section through plea agreements is now operating established and once legitimate escort internet sites where “johns” are currently providing names, places of employment, and contact numbers as if they are communicating with the now defunct service. These contacts are being utilized to arrange “john stings” and identify individuals on the demand side of human trafficking.

4. The Montgomery County Police Department has established a spread sheet that identifies all individuals advertising and participating in human trafficking in the jurisdiction of Montgomery County. This spreadsheet identifies participants in human trafficking by name, alias, escort service, telephone number, etc. The primary internet advertisers of human trafficking (EROS and Backpage) are being officially notified that these specific individuals are utilizing their site to participate in illegal activities. The Vice Section is also requesting that Backpage and EROS discontinue the future advertisement of these individuals or be prepared to be found complicit in the crime of human trafficking.

5. The official notification to EROS and Backpage that probable cause exists that specific services and individuals have been found to be involved in human trafficking/prostitution and are utilizing their site to promote their illegal activities will eliminate their thinly veiled defense that they are not actively participating in prostitution. This official notification will place these sites into the position of possible civil and criminal ramifications for failure to refuse these individuals advertising space on the sites.

6. The Vice Section has initiated outreach to individuals working in the sex trade. The goal of this outreach program is to provide workers in the sex trade industry a safe place to report violence against them. This outreach has resulted in one arrest warrant for robbery and a second report that should result in a warrant for violence committed against a sex worker.

The trafficked individuals are the face of the business and consequently the most exposed and accountable to law enforcement and the judiciary. The true profiteers of human trafficking have learned to make large profits while allowing others to take all the risk. These legal investigative tactics are bringing vice investigations into the 21st century and making everyone involved in the organized crime of human trafficking accountable for their actions.

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Montgomery County Police Department doesn't investigate federal crimes.

Trafficking is a federal crime and investigated by federal law enforcement entities.

Montgomery County Police would only investigate prostitution. If during a prostitution investigation, there is evidence of trafficking, a federal entity would be called in.

That is like suggesting the Montgomery County Police is investigating someone for income tax fraud. They don't have jurisdiction, and they CAN NOT enforce laws that are not within their jurisdiction.

In addition, I've never heard a law enforcement officer use the term "sex worker". They use the word prostitute.

wow - i stand corrected.
i did not notice it was actually on the montgomery county police website.
it was not posted by a banned escort obviously.

it's still mostly bullshit.
the police lie just as much, if not more than a banned escort.

[jenna_purr]

4. Will they be doing the same with the Yellow Pages, the local newspapers, Playtime Magazine ? Does this effect the print escort advertising venues or just the internet advertising venues ?

Have the Yellow Pages ever been held responsible for the criminal activities of their advertisers ? If the Yellow Pages are notified that one of their advertisers are engaging in illegal activity, are they required to stop allowing that advertiser to place ads ?

Escorting is LEGAL.
Contacting an escort is LEGAL.
Paying an escort is LEGAL.
Having sex with an escort is LEGAL.

An agreeement to exchange money for sex is ILLEGAL.

Prostitution is a crime of WORDS, not actions.

[jenna_purr]

When I initially read the original post in this thread, I thought it was referring to this backpage ad.



report: inappropriate contentwrong categoryover posted Montgomery County Police Seeking Information - 99

posted: November 5, 2010, 12:39 PM
Reply: click here

The Montgomery County, Department of Police, Vice Section, is tasked with investigating those involved in Human Trafficking and Prostitution. In doing so, the Vice Section has obtained information through informants and other investigative means on individuals that have frequented an internet site known as www.theeroticreview.com (TER), Date Check, Preferred 411 and Back Channel. The Vice Section has compiled a list of individuals, along with email addresses, home and work phone numbers, home and business addresses and the handles associated with these sites. In an effort to further our investigation the Vice Section is seeking the assistance of others who have information on the following individuals on TER:

the-mailman - Nate Solloway
mpduration – Reginald Law
bertlancaster – John Henderson
Nuvela Man – Robert Ravida
Geojohn – John Piggott
Bill Nilla - Bill Niland
Tophervette – Christopher Gede
Biggered - Edwin Rector

Please contact the Vice Section at viceandintel@montgomerycountym d.gov with any information on these individuals.
Poster's age: 99





this backpage ad was removed by the time I clicked on a link to it.
but i was able to google the link and read the cache'd page.

i had dismissed this backpage ad as being posted by a disgruntled escort.
but it appears to be similar to what is now showing on the police website.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

[Maggie McNeill]

Originally Posted by jenna_purr

it's still mostly bullshit.
the police lie just as much, if not more than a banned escort.

They lie vastly more; their jobs entirely depend on it.

[SFviii]

Originally Posted by AngelOK

They lie vastly more; their jobs entirely depend on it.

A lawyer friend have mentioned that the law-makers in DC have passed a bill that its legal for LE to lie to get the job done.

Stay safe...

[Guest121311-4]

Be really careful out there, not only can LE lie to get the job done, they also lie in their reports, to get the conviction. Most of providers won't push it to trial, for whatever reason, but the courts, may usually drop the case, just for the lack of funds, to take a misdemeanor to trial. Unless you have had several cases brought against you, as a provider. I personally, think that, LE needs to go after the real criminals, and leave consensual adults alone. They get paid for their time, Why can't we?