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Old 11-02-2010, 06:54 PM   #16
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I have no doubt closed minded and jaded people still think that a "black or indian" man should never be President, but they have their own issues. That's like a father saying he would rather have a white guy who beats his daughter than a nice man of another heritage treat her right. Yes most people see skin color, but fact is fact....he is not black or white. Who really cares as long as he does a good job right?

I bashed Bush and Clinton and we are all white, so I don't fall into the naive category period.

I know many people today are still as jaded as many my parent's age....I just tend not to associate with them. You may not think that way either, but as you can see from the reply we are commenting on that's exactly what a lot of people assume. If you are white and don't agree it's only because the guy is not white. Forget about the fact he has no clue what he is doing in most cases lol. If the only reason people chose not to elect him was based on his skin color, they are batso. Most voted the other way based on Democrat or Republican values.

I also agree that only voting for a party is not always good, but in this case I agree more with what Republicans have proposed. I won't even get into what the lousy Democrats tried to do to the competition by using me and my child as a ploy to smear a Senator...I have the names of those who were involved lol. What a shock they are all hobbyists.

And yea Bodilly I was a tike when Reagan was in office, but I got to hear about the effects long after lol.
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:28 PM   #17
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Your type of attitude towards race relations is what this country needs London. I honestly did not think that I would have lived to see a 'black' president in my lifetime but thanks to your generation I did. You guys just don't see color that much anymore and I will say I'm very proud of that.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:16 AM   #18
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The fact that I don't like Obama has nothing to do with his color. He has gone to other countries and apologized for us, bowed to kings, I saw pictures and videos of him when he first took office and didn't put his hand over his heart for the pledge of allegiance, just this week while speaking to a group of Latino's called us the "enemy" and said we need to be defeated, and he is now backpedling to save his ass.... many more examples to many to put in this thread.

I'm not Democrat or Republican and I am not a racist, or a Communist because I have an opinion that is different than those who disagree with me... I have an opinion.

I feel that the best days of this country are behind us... WAKE UP AMERICA...!
Yes, we do need to take back this country.
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:51 AM   #19
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I have been following this thread for a couple of days, so I'll chime in.

@ junctionrod

The fact that I don't like Obama has nothing to do with his color. He has gone to other countries and apologized for us, bowed to kings, I saw pictures and videos of him when he first took office and didn't put his hand over his heart for the pledge of allegiance, just this week while speaking to a group of Latino's called us the "enemy" and said we need to be defeated, and he is now backpedaling to save his ass.... many more examples to many to put in this thread.

Ditto – When Obama was elected, I was all for persevering under another Democratic president and wished him and us the best. But that ended when he bowed to foreign potentates, publicly cozied up to Marxist leaders and radical Islamic leaders, short shrifted traditional U.S. allies and then had the gall to apologize for the sacrifices American soldiers and sailors made in Europe, Asia and Africa over the course of the last 100 years. I think Gingrich is right when he refers to Obama's worldview as “third world anti-colonialism.” Those young, American men and women did not die on foreign shores as oppressors. They gave their lives as liberators. It’s a gross insult and injustice that Obama interprets that legacy so differently, and, in my opinion, wrongly.

@ Outdoorsman

I am not for Health Care reform, I am not for IRS laws being tightened up and allowing lethal force, I am not for NASA being dismantled, and I am not for re-distribution of wealth. Thus, I am voting Republican even though I am not Republican, just my position. These are all things that were started and created by the present administration and these are the issues I am voting on today.

Wanna re-hash all the crap Bush did while in office go ahead, but that's not the issues I am voting on today - that simple. I agree Bush was not a good President and he screwed a lot up but I also believe Obama is taking a bad situation and just making it worse. His policies - suck - simple. Please tell me he will not be re-elected!!!

Ditto – I couldn’t have worded it better myself.

@ fox5eod

thanks to your generation I did. You guys just don't see color that much anymore and I will say I'm very proud of that.

Ditto – I also see this wonderful transformation.
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:43 PM   #20
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It always frightens me when people make statement like "vote all incumbents out" or that they vote "all republican" or "all democrat". That just shows that the individual is completely ignorant of the issues and the individuals they are supposed to be electing to represent them on the issues. There are good Republican and Democrats just as there are bad ones in each party. Those that do not take the time to investigate each candidate as an individual and each issue in depth are simply "drinking the Kool Aid" of each political party and are doing a complete disservice to our democratic system as a whole. Use your brain when casting your ballot - don't simply bend to peer pressure and follow a particular herd - those that do typically end up in the slaughterhouse where they belong.
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Old 11-03-2010, 05:06 PM   #21
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Louisianans were put in a perplexing situation in this Senatorial race. Both the Democratic candidate and the Republican candidate were members of the 111th Congress; therefore, both were technically incumbents. Hence, it would have been nearly impossible to vote “all” of the bums out this go around.

It’s just my opinion (and that is all it is), but I do not think Vitter would have been re-elected this year if the Democrats hadn’t controlled the Presidency and the Congress for the past two years. I believe many figured he was the lesser of two evils this time around.

“Straight ticket” voting is not as prevalent today as it was fifty years ago. I know I don’t vote that way. I do have some older relatives who still vote a straight Democratic ticket, but they grew into that habit under FDR. Joseph Cao, the New Orleans area incumbent congressional representative and the only Republican congressional representative to vote for Obamacare, was voted out. A Democrat was voted in. So it appears “straight ticket” voting was not the rule of the day in Louisiana: some discretion was used.
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:28 PM   #22
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I agree with I B Hankering...

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Hey I B ... can I use your "disclaimer" for my signature... good idea...!
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:42 PM   #23
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@ junctionrod

Feel free to borrow away! I kinda borrowed it from someone else when I joined ASPD (RIP) last year - LOL.
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:35 AM   #24
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Louisianans were put in a perplexing situation in this Senatorial race. Both the Democratic candidate and the Republican candidate were members of the 111th Congress; therefore, both were technically incumbents. Hence, it would have been nearly impossible to vote “all” of the bums out this go around.

It’s just my opinion (and that is all it is), but I do not think Vitter would have been re-elected this year if the Democrats hadn’t controlled the Presidency and the Congress for the past two years. I believe many figured he was the lesser of two evils this time around.

“Straight ticket” voting is not as prevalent today as it was fifty years ago. I know I don’t vote that way. I do have some older relatives who still vote a straight Democratic ticket, but they grew into that habit under FDR. Joseph Cao, the New Orleans area incumbent congressional representative and the only Republican congressional representative to vote for Obamacare, was voted out. A Democrat was voted in. So it appears “straight ticket” voting was not the rule of the day in Louisiana: some discretion was used.
New orleans voted for an ethically challenged state politiction?, cedric richmond over cao. cao may not be much as a politician, but are they that dumb to vote for another crook??? anyone know if he's a jefferson protege?

I figured that Cao was a one time wonder. He got lucky last election, the hurricane was a factor and there was apparent confusion with the election scheduling that resulted in a low turnout.

it prolly helped that cedric was the only candidate that Obama publicly spoke for in an advertisement.
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:19 AM   #25
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New orleans voted for an ethically challenged state politiction?, cedric richmond over cao. cao may not be much as a politician, but are they that dumb to vote for another crook??? anyone know if he's a jefferson protege?

I figured that Cao was a one time wonder. He got lucky last election, the hurricane was a factor and there was apparent confusion with the election scheduling that resulted in a low turnout.

it prolly helped that cedric was the only candidate that Obama publicly spoke for in an advertisement.

No one has mentioned this race matters not who won.. The dirty little secret is the New Orleans area is about to lose a congressional seat via redistricting.
With Bobby as our Gov. and republican majorities everywhere in sight I wonder whose district will be chopped into confetti? Hmmmm!
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With Bobby as our Gov. and republican majorities everywhere in sight I wonder whose district will be chopped into confetti? Hmmmm!
Probably depends on which districts were Gerrymandered beforehand.... surely, not much of that took place in Louisiana..... right?

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Old 11-05-2010, 11:10 AM   #27
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Socialism = Totalitarianism (Hilter: Taking away civil rights...among other things)

History always repeats itself, I hope I am dead before it happens lol
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:23 AM   #28
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@ Dilbert

Shhh! The gentleman says he is from Valdosta, and I was just trying to paint Louisianans in a favorable light.

@ Robobird

It’s not a “dirty little secret.” It’s politics as usual!

@ Giz

Nah! Say it ain't so. LOL


Speaking of reapportionment, would someone please explain to me how Reid, Boxer, Pelosi, et al, can dare to call themselves “Progressive” when they stand on the backs of disenfranchised, illegal aliens [some 11 million] to gain and hold political power in the very same manner antebellum plantation owners in the South used the “3/5ths clause” to gain and hold power in Congress before the Civil War.

These “enlightened,” condescending, know-it-all, political dirt bags will unconstitutionally be using the illegal alien population in states like California to reduce—to steal from—Louisiana’s representation in Congress. No doubt a district for another Pelosi-ite congressional representative in California will be created.

The 14th Amendment states that all inhabitants, regardless of citizenship, will be enumerated during each census, but it also clearly states that only U.S. citizens can vote. The 14th Amendment goes on to state that the total number of disenfranchised inhabitants, i.e., non-citizens—both legal and illegal aliens—and certain criminals, will not be considered for apportionment purposes. The 14th Amendment is not only being ignored, it is pro-actively being obstructed (see: Arizona voter identification law overturned).

So I ask again, how are these so-called “Progressive” Democrats any different from the antebellum plantation owners in the South who similarly depended on a disenfranchised part of their constituency to gain and hold power in Congress before the Civil War?
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:02 PM   #29
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I happen to know some of these people that are mentioned in this thread, yes politicians. I may know a few, just a few. In the Cao v. Richmond race, I was not surprised by the outcome but there is a possibility the vote was based upon race. I have seen some of the results in precincts that are predominantly black and Richmond got 98% in one area. WOW!!! I do know that Cao is a very hard working man and no politican I have known could have a higher standard of integrity. The integrity thing is enough for me when it comes to politics. I certainly disagreed with his vote on Obamacare, huge mistake on his part.

Well I am just gonna hope for the best and deal with whatever comes my way.
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:49 PM   #30
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Maybe Cao will hang around and give Landrieu a run for her money in 2014.
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