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10-30-2010, 08:21 PM
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I agree with Dallas about the ship size lol
however i think a client should ask after screening especially if its a deal breaker. U do have a right to know what services are available, just be gentle (couldnt resist) don't jst out right ask in your first communication Do u do Greek ??
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10-31-2010, 08:34 AM
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I would hate to set an appointment with a provider I REALLY wanted to see based solely on her pics and then meet with her and find out she is not a True GFE provider (DFK, LFK, BBBJ = GFE).
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No offense, but that is not a "True GFE" no matter what many people nowadays like to claim. GFE stands for "Girl Friend Experience"; it is a feeling, not a checklist. A girl might not allow tongues in her mouth and/or insist on cover in BJ, yet still make a man feel welcome, comfortable and relaxed and gave a man wonderful conversation, cuddling, laughter, etc which would constitute a "true GFE". And another girl might follow your little list and yet be rushed, mechanical, and standoffish and thus not be any kind of GFE.
I do all the things on your list and I'm a GFE, but I'm not a GFE because of that list. And there are other GFE girls who don't do one or more of them and are still very popular. I realize that men are rational and linear thinkers who love definitions and checklists, but in this case it's simply not possible. A GFE is not defined by anything other than how the escort made her client feel, and can never be reduced to a list no matter how long and complex.
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10-31-2010, 09:54 AM
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Can't walk right for a few days....
Seems I remember a few times in life not being able to walk right for a few days AND LOVING IT....saying to myself ouch damn that was good ouch damn that was good ouch damn that was good....
Come one baby make it hurt so good....
LMAO
Depends on the memories that go with the pain....
I'm not advocating violence though please....
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10-31-2010, 12:55 PM
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Wow
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Seems I remember a few times in life not being able to walk right for a few days AND LOVING IT....saying to myself ouch damn that was good ouch damn that was good ouch damn that was good....
Come one baby make it hurt so good....
LMAO
Depends on the memories that go with the pain....
I'm not advocating violence though please....
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That is friggin hot though
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10-31-2010, 01:06 PM
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I wouldn't talk about my menu to anyone until they are screened... so start there
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10-31-2010, 01:12 PM
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It definitely seems like I am a minority in this respect. I guess the answer seems to be that the gents should feel comfortable asking questions after screening. I'm a little confused, though, as to why I have so often heard that we should kick a guy out if he asks too many menu questions during the appointment...is that worse than asking them beforehand?
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10-31-2010, 01:22 PM
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No offense, but that is not a "True GFE" no matter what many people nowadays like to claim. GFE stands for "Girl Friend Experience"; it is a feeling, not a checklist. A girl might not allow tongues in her mouth and/or insist on cover in BJ, yet still make a man feel welcome, comfortable and relaxed and gave a man wonderful conversation, cuddling, laughter, etc which would constitute a "true GFE".
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I guess we'll just have to agree that we disagree on this point. IMHO, if the lady "offers GFE" yet won't engage in activities on the list, she is NOT true GFE. She is just saying so as a ruse to getting appointments w/o delivering what is expected.
For you it may be a "feeling," but for most guys it includes certain activities.
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10-31-2010, 01:35 PM
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Got to agree with the girls, after screening ask away, you won't offend me. From me the answer is not no, but Hell no! Sorry that end is exit only. I have given it a try a couple of times and found no pleasure at all, for me it is very painful. More power to those that do enjoy it.
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My thoughts exactly.
Yes ask away after screening. I would rather you ask before anything gets set up .
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10-31-2010, 02:26 PM
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I guess we'll just have to agree that we disagree on this point. IMHO, if the lady "offers GFE" yet won't engage in activities on the list, she is NOT true GFE. She is just saying so as a ruse to getting appointments w/o delivering what is expected.
For you it may be a "feeling," but for most guys it includes certain activities.
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Not for the guys in Upstate NY. Many gentlemen have referred to me as "the definition of GFE" or a "true GFE," but I do not offer BBBJ. I hate it when the experience I provide is labeled based on a list of menu items; must you really reduce us to that?
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10-31-2010, 03:23 PM
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Not for the guys in Upstate NY. Many gentlemen have referred to me as "the definition of GFE" or a "true GFE," but I do not offer BBBJ. I hate it when the experience I provide is labeled based on a list of menu items; must you really reduce us to that?
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It's the nature of the business: economics rule of supply and demand. Gents get to define what they demand; ladies get to define what they supply.
The fact of the matter is most guys would define GFE as including BBBJ, while would exclude CBJ from the definition of GFE.
What you say about you being GFE for your area may be true (the offerings do change from one geographical location to another), but not for most of the country.
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10-31-2010, 03:30 PM
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I posted a poll with every option hobbyist vs provider so we could get a true gfe consensus. You can vote and discuss that freely via this link in this same national forum here so we dont hijack the greek thread:
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=121064
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10-31-2010, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by charlestudor2005
What you say about you being GFE for your area may be true (the offerings do change from one geographical location to another), but not for most of the country.
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Perhaps you are right that the men here are not representative of the entire US population; however, that doesn't mean that I'm going to take your word for it, and it certainly doesn't mean that their minority opinions are incorrect. In any case, I am grateful to most of them for defining the "China Doll experience" by many things about me other than the menu items I am willing to provide. Thanks, guys!
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10-31-2010, 05:25 PM
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Yes and NO
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Perhaps you are right that the men here are not representative of the entire US population; however, that doesn't mean that I'm going to take your word for it, and it certainly doesn't mean that their minority opinions are incorrect. In any case, I am grateful to most of them for defining the "China Doll experience" by many things about me other than the menu items I am willing to provide. Thanks, guys!
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China I do agree with Charles in the literal sense that GFE does include BBBJ. If it's not your choice then the China Doll experience may be a better way to describe it. I do know that while I do love a great BBBJ I would not hesitate to see you after reading your replies and reading your reviews. I just wish you were in my area
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10-31-2010, 06:09 PM
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China I do agree with Charles in the literal sense that GFE does include BBBJ. If it's not your choice then the China Doll experience may be a better way to describe it. I do know that while I do love a great BBBJ I would not hesitate to see you after reading your replies and reading your reviews. I just wish you were in my area
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Thank you for the compliment, and I can definitely see your point of view as far as calling it the "China Doll experience." This is one of those things that varies widely based on opinion, and as long as things are based on opinion, there is no "right and wrong." All I can say is that I don't care much for the attitude that I am incapable of providing the GFE because I am lacking one menu item. After all, if the GFE was based on menu items only, wouldn't we all be providing BBFS too?
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10-31-2010, 08:21 PM
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Another great discussion. I've got to visit these boards more often, although my mod duties and real world commitments keep me pretty busy.
I really enjoy BBBJ and Greek, and they can be deal breakers for me if the lady does not excite me. I have to say that I'd be happy to see China Doll - I think she is beautiful, and, after reading her posts, I'd love to spend some time with her in conversation. But, when I'm looking at a lady's reviews or ads, I look for several things - do her photos excite me, does she offer BBBJ, does she offer Greek? If her photos excite me, the other two aren't necessarilly requirements. If she offers BBBJ and excites me, I'll ask her about Greek after I have been screened or during our meeting. The most important aspect of all of this is if she excites me. For example, China Doll excites me, and I'd love to see her if she wasn't way up there in Yankee country. Now, if she would abandon that freezing land and come south to the MS Coast this winter, she could make me very happy...yum!
JaG
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