What do you call a man who enjoys....

[Cheaper2buyit]

top as I told you woman who have sex with woman is sexy men who have sex with men are gay its not a tag or something its a like cat is cat.

[dirty dog]

Bi is not its own sexual preference, rather is means the person has duel preferences. It does not mean one is not gay if he is bi, it means he is both homosexual (sex with a man) and Hetrosexual (sex with a female) because he has a preference for both and does both. Homosexual does not mean the number of times you have sex with a man, like if you have sex with a man 10 times then your a homosexual, no one time makes you homosexual, that does not mean you cannot also be hetrosexual. You paint it like the use of the word means you only have sex with men. These are not lables they are the words used to describe the individual acts. i.e. Sex with men = Homosexual, Sex with women means = Hetrosexual Bi-sexual = both homosexual and hetrosexual.

[canoodle]

And, I thought it was complicated!

[KCQuestor]

DD, as far as I know you are the only one who uses those terms that way.

[sipapi]

Originally Posted by dirty dog

Bi is not its own sexual preference, rather is means the person has duel preferences. It does not mean one is not gay if he is bi, it means he is both homosexual (sex with a man) and Hetrosexual (sex with a female) because he has a preference for both and does both. Homosexual does not mean the number of times you have sex with a man, like if you have sex with a man 10 times then your a homosexual, no one time makes you homosexual, that does not mean you cannot also be hetrosexual. You paint it like the use of the word means you only have sex with men. These are not lables they are the words used to describe the individual acts. i.e. Sex with men = Homosexual, Sex with women means = Hetrosexual Bi-sexual = both homosexual and hetrosexual.

Exactly. My orginial post was the question, is for a man to desire to suck cock make him gay. I think it does. Just as a women who likes to have sex with other women, she is also gay. This does not mean that either can't enjoy sex with the opposiste sex. You Topnotch are actually the one that keeps bringing up on nomenclature. But to your question, I am not hung up on labels, why are you hung up on labels or descriptions being bad?

IMHO, if someone is gay, they should be proud to be labeled as gay, cause that is who they are. This post was mainly about why there is a double standard, why is it "cool" for women to be bi in our culture, i.e, movies, porn, but not as accepted for men to be bi. TopNotch you stated you could not think of any bi men, yet I'm sure you know lots of bi women, you are one yourself right? Why is that more men are not bi?

True tolerance, IMHO, is acceptance of yourself and the description of who and what you are. Hard to be tolerant of others if one is not comfortable in thier own skin. Why shun the label of being gay if you are comfortable yourself.

Again, this is off the point. My examples of prostitutes, johns, golfers, etc. all reflect my opionion that if one accepts oneself, then the associated labels are welcomed, because they are accurate descriptions.

I smoke, I play golf, I'm a sexual deviant, all these are accurate descriptions of me...if the label fits, wear it proudly or change the behavior.

I agree, I believe most people do not choose their sexuality, it is simply who they are, how they are wired. Yet another reason, to not resist the description of yourself.

So if your a man and like to suck cock or have another cock in your ass, admit you enjoy that homosexual activity, don't hide behind the illusion of fake tits and makeup.

The irony of this is, I believe I am actually more open-minded to these activities and behaviors because I am not afraid of the "labels" that are rightfully associated with them. Just a thought.

[sipapi]

Originally Posted by BottomlessFilth

Shalom Baby

BF, little rusty on my hebrew, but I believe that means peace be with you baby. Thank you. I wish we could give each other peace, but I think we can only achieve that ourselves. For me it is a journey and as my favorite poet Paul Hewson said,. "I still haven't found what I'm looking for"

So, I will send out to you... I hope you have found your peace, good luck in the search if you haven't, baby.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Actually, golfers are very indiscriminate about what hole they put it in. As long as it gets in the hole, that's all that matters. Even if they find a stick in the hole they want, they will remove it, toss it aside, and then take their own shot at the hole. Golfers have no room to talk about caring about which hole anyone puts anything in!

COG. You make the most sense of all. Love your humor. My problem whether in golf or affairs of the groin, I can never get it in the hole quick or often enough.

[BottomlessFilth]

Originally Posted by sipapi

So if your a man and like to suck cock or have another cock in your ass, admit you enjoy that homosexual activity, don't hide behind the illusion of fake tits and makeup.

Maybe it would be safest to say it's just all "Sexual Activity" lol. That pretty much incorporates it all lol.

Originally Posted by sipapi

The irony of this is, I believe I am actually more open-minded to these activities and behaviors because I am not afraid of the "labels" that are rightfully associated with them. Just a thought.

That's awesome you are so open minded about that stuff!! Love It!! I think it makes sex a lot less redundant, for me personally, just by the exploration activities alone. Whether that be through sexual thoughts or sexual activities. It's not for everyone.

I just think it's about finding "your own" sexuality, and finding ways to enjoy it while knowing that not everyone is going to support your lifestyle no matter how liberal or conservative you are sexually.

More importantly....Wouldn't the world be super boring if we were all the same on every issue of our lives? Blah! I love all the Diversity!!

Originally Posted by sipapi

For me it is a journey and as my favorite poet Paul Hewson said,. "I still haven't found what I'm looking for"

I agree Peace is a journey, and a lot of people still haven't found that Peace they are looking for. I think it takes daily work and awareness about yourself, others and the world around you. Today I am better than I was 7 months ago, and in 6 more months I will be better than I am today. I love Journeys!!!

[electricguru100]

It is interesting to me that so many in this GROUP that obviously like to live outside the bounds of normal society would be so judgemental of others. First "gay" means that you only want to have sex with members of the same sex. Bi means that you are comfortable having sex with members of either sex or in other words are just plain greedy . People often change during their life ... live and let live!!!

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by KCQuestor

DD, as far as I know you are the only one who uses those terms that way.

well you can take that up with websters, I did not define the words, how you or anyone else wants to use them is up to you though it does not make it right, there are many married men who like to suck a cock on occasion that use the words curious or bi to describe their activities, if that makes them feel better than good for them, does not mean that he's not gay. So how many blow jobs can a guy give before he should be considered gay, or is your anwser as many as he wants because if he thinks he's straight then he's straight. Whats your definition?

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by electricguru100

It is interesting to me that so many in this GROUP that obviously like to live outside the bounds of normal society would be so judgemental of others. First "gay" means that you only want to have sex with members of the same sex. Bi means that you are comfortable having sex with members of either sex or in other words are just plain greedy . People often change during their life ... live and let live!!!

How is anyone on this board being judgemental. Not a single person has said that anyone who is involved in this activity is wrong nor has anyone made any comment other than to define the activity. Thats not being judgemental, may you should buy hooked on phonics and learn a little reading comprehension. Those are your definitions, there is no definition for gay, in terms of sexuality, its just a term which came to describe homosexuality. The definition of this is

Definition of HOMOSEXUAL

1
: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex

2
: of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

— ho·mo·sex·u·al·ly adverb

Education is a wonderful thing, you should try it sometime.

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by sipapi

Exactly. My orginial post was the question, is for a man to desire to suck cock make him gay. I think it does. Just as a women who likes to have sex with other women, she is also gay. This does not mean that either can't enjoy sex with the opposiste sex. You Topnotch are actually the one that keeps bringing up on nomenclature. But to your question, I am not hung up on labels, why are you hung up on labels or descriptions being bad?

IMHO, if someone is gay, they should be proud to be labeled as gay, cause that is who they are. This post was mainly about why there is a double standard, why is it "cool" for women to be bi in our culture, i.e, movies, porn, but not as accepted for men to be bi. TopNotch you stated you could not think of any bi men, yet I'm sure you know lots of bi women, you are one yourself right? Why is that more men are not bi?

True tolerance, IMHO, is acceptance of yourself and the description of who and what you are. Hard to be tolerant of others if one is not comfortable in thier own skin. Why shun the label of being gay if you are comfortable yourself.

Again, this is off the point. My examples of prostitutes, johns, golfers, etc. all reflect my opionion that if one accepts oneself, then the associated labels are welcomed, because they are accurate descriptions.

I smoke, I play golf, I'm a sexual deviant, all these are accurate descriptions of me...if the label fits, wear it proudly or change the behavior.

I agree, I believe most people do not choose their sexuality, it is simply who they are, how they are wired. Yet another reason, to not resist the description of yourself.

So if your a man and like to suck cock or have another cock in your ass, admit you enjoy that homosexual activity, don't hide behind the illusion of fake tits and makeup.

The irony of this is, I believe I am actually more open-minded to these activities and behaviors because I am not afraid of the "labels" that are rightfully associated with them. Just a thought.

I agree with you on this, to call it what it is is not a judgement or a slamm. In my business I deal with homosexuals all day long, as well as BI and curious customers. In addition having spent a night or two in federal prison, you see this type of stuff and you just learn accept it and accept that you are going to interact with men who have sex with men everyday. I have no problem with it because I could careless what anyone does in their personal lives.

[topnotchmassage]

This thread has just become redundant...
Obviously, some people see things one way...some people see them another.
Period.
I'm over it.
*Patting mouth while yawning* hehe

Off to Dreamland, where labels aren't considered necessary.
Have a good night, all!

[nsafun05]

Originally Posted by Sens55

Well, I don't really call them anything. I don't care what other people do, I'm just not into it. Years ago Andrew Dice Clay did show and he said a few things that I have always remembered and thought relevant. He said "I've never looked at another man's hairy ass and said, 'oh yeah, I gotta' get a piece of that'"

He also said there's no such thing as a Bi-Sexual. You either suck dick, or you do not suck dick.

+1 on that

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by topnotchmassage

This thread has just become redundant...
Obviously, some people see things one way...some people see them another.
Period.
I'm over it.
*Patting mouth while yawning* hehe

Off to Dreamland, where labels aren't considered necessary.
Have a good night, all!

Much like I find most of your posts.