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06-05-2010, 06:39 PM
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The crazier they are, the better fuck they are!!! Thats a fact!
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Hmmm. . .
On a more serious note. . .
Do you have to actually prove a marriage license is on file? Or will presenting evidence of cohabitation be enough to end spousal support?
It might be worth hiring a private investigator and see what type of patterns they can prove just to see how much time, energy and money you should invest in this.
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06-05-2010, 09:49 PM
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Do you have to actually prove a marriage license is on file? Or will presenting evidence of cohabitation be enough to end spousal support?
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Check the divorce decree. Most of them started spelling out the cohabitation issue about 15-20 years ago. In some states it's statutory so it should stop by operation of law. But don't stop making your payments until a court says you can. Failure to follow the court order will subject you to a contempt citation.
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06-06-2010, 06:23 AM
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Common law is no longer legal in this state.
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06-07-2010, 05:38 AM
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Common law is no longer legal in this state.
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What state are you in?
And the course of action is clear. Hire a family lawyer. If she's costing you less than a family lawyer will cost, they why bother in any event.
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06-07-2010, 08:40 AM
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06-07-2010, 12:08 PM
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My doc was the last one in the state sued under the old "alienation of affections" statute. Lost about a 100k. They eliminated that and common law at about the same time.
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06-08-2010, 01:04 AM
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I'd just go see a lawyer.
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06-08-2010, 06:27 AM
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I'd just go see a lawyer.
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I'm sure that makes sense for most situations. However she is not just anyone. I know several lawyers in the $300 hr range. She can think and maneuver rings around them. The thing is that the lawyers are comfortably entrenched in the system. She uses a system against itself. Think of Bill Clinton. She would be his sensei.
So, like you mentioned before. It would cost more in fees than I would save unless I can do some detective work first.
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06-08-2010, 08:04 PM
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The following is from a website I found about Ohio:
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Can permanent spousal support be modified or terminated?
If the decree that orders permanent spousal support makes a specific provision that permits the court to modify the spousal support award, the court retains jurisdiction to hear any motion requesting a modification of the existing award. The court can expressly reserve jurisdiction in its order in a contested divorce matter or the parties can agree, in a separation agreement that is subsequently incorporated into a divorce decree, to make spousal support modifiable. If there is no provision contained in the divorce decree (or a separation agreement incorporated into a divorce decree) that reserves the jurisdiction of the court to modify the spousal support award, the award in not modifiable.
Because of a change in the law, divorce decrees filed before May 2, l986, and not arising out of a separation agreement incorporated into a decree, do not have to have a specific reservation of jurisdiction in order for the court to consider a modification or termination of spousal support.
Divorce decrees which incorporate separation agreements and which were entered on or before June 23, l976 are not modifiable unless there has been a mistake, misrepresentation, fraud, or an express reservation of jurisdiction to modify. Divorce decrees which incorporate separation agreements and which were entered after June 23, l976 but before May 2, l986 are modifiable and such modification is not limited only to situations of mistake, misrepresentation, fraud, and the separation agreement or decree does not have to have an express reservation of jurisdiction to modify.
If the court has retained jurisdiction to modify spousal support (or under the other situations described above where the court may modify), it may only do so where the court determines that there has been a material or substantial change in the circumstances of either party that could not reasonably have been anticipated at the time of the original decree. A change in circumstance includes:
- Altered economic conditions (i.e. an involuntary decrease in income);
- Remarriage of the recipient;
- Death;
- Entering into a relationship in another state that would constitute a valid marriage in Ohio;
- Post-decree cohabitation in certain situations;
- Payor's increased ability to pay;
- Retirement; and
- Other circumstances
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I suggest you: (1) check your decree; (2) investigate the cohabitation issue; and (3) pay for a US marriage database check.
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06-15-2010, 09:56 AM
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Goes both ways...
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The crazier they are, the better fuck they are!!! Thats a fact!
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Why, thank you, CC. Your praise of me knows no bounds.
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06-15-2010, 04:33 PM
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Be an Internet Sleuth
She resides in Michigan with her SO, right? So if they got married it would probably have been in Michigan and the record of marriage would be on file with Michigan's bureau of vital statistics. I found this link:
http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/0,1607,...245---,00.html
You need to be super accurate about the names, etc. since any mistake could throw the search engines off.
If you come up cold you could try Nevada or some of the neighboring states that don't have residency or waiting periods for marriages.
Good luck,
Awl4knot
P.S. Everyone is right about the correlation between fucking and mental instability. The best fuck of my life but crazy like a loon, and she was from Michigan!
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06-15-2010, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
I'd just go see a lawyer.
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Hire a good lawyer. Do your homework prior to retaining the attorney. Give the attorney the info and let him/her take it and run with it.
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06-15-2010, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by awl4knot
P.S. Everyone is right about the correlation between fucking and mental instability. The best fuck of my life but crazy like a loon, and she was from Michigan!
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I guess I need to find a crazy woman. But, I guess she'd have to be crazy to give me a second look.
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06-16-2010, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by charlestudor2005
I guess I need to find a crazy woman. But, I guess she'd have to be crazy to give me a second look.
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That is why you have an ATM card.
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06-17-2010, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pyramider
That is why you have an ATM card.
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All the Trashy Madwomen???
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