holly hell, speak of the devil

[Doove]

That really wasn't my point, OSD. My point was that i'd love to see just how far he got using that argument with a judge.

[offshoredrilling]

well to your point. I have no idea if it would work or not. For it to work I would think a need a really good lawyer, and lot's of luck.

[SamanthaSinclair]

Originally Posted by Lexxxy

I'm not sensitive, I just like to look at everything from every angle.
If I wore panties (for any purpose other than having them savagely torn off) I would be wearing my big girl panties. I can take whatever you throw my way baby

Lexxxy...How funny, you too? I make a point to NEVER, EVER, wear panties, unless they're 1.)ONLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF BEING SAVAGELY TORN FROM MY BODY! AND 2.) ALWAYS MY BIG GIRL PANTIES, SO AS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE WHATEVER IS TOSSED AT ME! ...had to Lmfao at that snide comeback, that one made me proud!!!

[Doove]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

well to your point. I have no idea if it would work or not. For it to work I would think a need a really good lawyer, and lot's of luck.

And a pretty stupid judge.

[offshoredrilling]

Rochester has the judge part covered. We got some winners for judge's.

tree top 7, Rochester ruling on a law, where girls can be topless if protesting in the open.wtf That judge retired, but i think he was thoroughly replaced. He use to be my lawyer. He was good as a lawyer. I thought he sucked as a judge. mmmmmm pasties in a bar ya right, but that is a old law/ruling have a come back.

So how about Buffalo, you must have one that this topic has a shot also??????

[SamanthaSinclair]

Originally Posted by Doove

Not out of the ordinary for you. So in that regard, you're correct.



Oh please. I guess that's why every time you bring up someone's legitimacy to post here, it's always in the midst of a disagreement.





Well, i suppose it would be a good analogy if there are no disclaimers or contracts signed that address this issue. So i'm guessing it's not.



Heather is right in her point about singling out this one girl. This sort of topic is important, and it's probably a good thing that it came up. Nevertheless, it's also the sort of topic that could/should probably fall under a more general discussion like the ones about having hobby phones. Just another aspect we need to take into account when discussing the importance of "being careful out there".



I'm sympathetic to the argument that the customer who is doing the paying should be able to expect the "business person" to take care of all the business ends of the deal (including accounting for birth control). But like JB says, these are oftentimes girls we are dealing with, not seasoned business people.

....Hmm and is it, perhaps, a bit, Ohhh, I dont know, personal/BIZARRE /FREAKING CREEPY AND UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE ,to start asking providers "if they're on the pill, etc, do they fancy an unprotected romp w their actual "significant other "later ","are they perhaps trying to conceive a child, for ANY REASON IN THEIR (INSERT FOREIGN WORD TO MANY HOBBIESTS) "PERSONAL "LIVES???...YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BULLY ANY REAL WOMAN DOWN TO THAT LEVEL GUYS! IF YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR CONDOM BRAND, SWITCH, PULL OUT, CIM, ETC ....

[Perfect Gentleman]

Hate being called " mister " especially by a judge

[SamanthaSinclair]

I think most people hate being called anything by a judge other than "not guilty ","free to go ","plaintiff ",or "counsel "....

[Doove]

Originally Posted by SamanthaSinclair

....Hmm and is it, perhaps, a bit, Ohhh, I dont know, personal/BIZARRE /FREAKING CREEPY AND UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE ,to start asking providers "if they're on the pill, etc,

Absolutely. Which makes this a pretty tricky situation. Not sure there are any easy answers and at the end of the day, i don't think you can really do anything but add it to the pile of risks that are inherent in this hobby.

The question then becomes, should the risk be borne entirely by the provider or should it be shared by the two parties. And before jumping on the "if she refuses to use birth control then it should be entirely on her shoulders" bandwagon, keep in mind that even birth control is not foolproof.

[Guest091813]

okay i kinda been following this thread...and honestly...men carrien condoms in their wallets is always a good thing..just in case..then ya kinda gotta worry about the so if she is goin through your wallet and wondering why are you carrien a condom...just act like you cant hear...you know..just act normal...

my quote when i was asked..why do i have condoms in my purse...its the same theory as a gun/knife...its better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it....(yes...im for the rights to behr arms especially in this day and age but thats another thread right)<---see that play on words there..if you know me..you get it..

providers should always carry protection..its just part of the gear that goes along with the thighhighs and heels and lipstick...

condoms break...it happens...so what do you do...toss a diaphragm up there..put on 2 condom..wait..be abstinent...

or just do the right thing..if that condom breaks...then you need to step it up and handle that situation...regardless what the outcome is...sit your asses down and discuss it..handle it..and move on..and hope this woman your dealing with is of sane mind and understands a pregnancy most likely isnt the
route either of you wanna go....

if your gonna play...then prepare for this kinda stuff cuz it does happen...

if your dealing with girls...as opposed to ladies that are proff about this..then cover your .... its called being pro-active...if she aint gonna provide the cover for you then she most likely isnt covering for no man ..and you may wanna re-think that girl..and get yourself a diff young boo-boo...

and also in your reviews of that girl..let the other guys know..heyhey gotta bring a coat cuz she's thinkin she be in Hawaii and they apparently dont wear coats there!!

[GP]

Originally Posted by anita germane

condoms break...it happens...so what do you do...toss a diaphragm up there..put on 2 condom..wait..be abstinent...

or just do the right thing..if that condom breaks...then you need to step it up and handle that situation...regardless what the outcome is...sit your asses down and discuss it..handle it..and move on..and hope this woman your dealing with is of sane mind and understands a pregnancy most likely isnt the
route either of you wanna go....

if your gonna play...then prepare for this kinda stuff cuz it does happen...

if your dealing with girls...as opposed to ladies that are proff about this..then cover your .... its called being pro-active...if she aint gonna provide the cover for you then she most likely isnt covering for no man ..and you may wanna re-think that girl..and get yourself a diff young boo-boo...

and also in your reviews of that girl..let the other guys know..heyhey gotta bring a coat cuz she's thinkin she be in Hawaii and they apparently dont wear coats there!!

In the situation we have been discussing, the guy did try and handle it, but the "girl" would have none of that. Don't you think that any lady in this profession would either be willing to "handle" the situation or choose not to be in this profession in the first place. If there are ladies who CHOOSE NOT TO HANDLE these kinds of situations, I would sure like to know about it before and accident happens.

[Guest091813]

Originally Posted by GP

In the situation we have been discussing, the guy did try and handle it, but the "girl" would have none of that. Don't you think that any lady in this profession would either be willing to "handle" the situation or choose not to be in this profession in the first place. If there are ladies who CHOOSE NOT TO HANDLE these kinds of situations, I would sure like to know about it before and accident happens.

opps sorry ..yes handling it would be the right thing for the lady to do...question is how ya gonna know if this is what the lady is about prior to seeing her..gonna ask her..."hey..you trying to get preg outa this"..im just curious...

[JONBALLS]

I always ask for her current medical records, and for a month prior to seeing her ,

I must stop by and be present to make sure she shows me she is swallowing the pill and then has to show me her toungue..

.then i leave and nonchelantly go about the rest of my day

[boyscoutnomore]

Since I am a relative newbie, this is the scary part ! but u look first for a pro with good skills and reviews, which is why I am here !

[Guest091813]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

I always ask for her current medical records, and for a month prior to seeing her ,

I must stop by and be present to make sure she shows me she is swallowing the pill and then has to show me her toungue..

.then i leave and nonchelantly go about the rest of my day

bahahhahaha you seriously got me gigglin here!