holly hell, speak of the devil

[heatherelite]

Originally Posted by lostforkate

Providers should always be using birth control of some sort - IUD, the pill, sponge, diaphragm, tubes tied,

And clients shouldn't take on part of the responsibilty for birth control/STD prevention? Vasectomy, perhaps?

[Doove]

Originally Posted by heatherelite

Not wanting the kid and leaving the possible mother of your child with a tube of spermicide and the morning after pill in not a defense to not paying child support as I'm sure any family court judge will tell you.

And neither is the fact that he paid her for the sex.

Excellent post, Heather.

[GP]

Originally Posted by heatherelite

Combative? I'm simply stating my feelings on the fact that I'm glad I no longer have to worry about running into such clients since I am retired. I wasn't aware that I was no longer able to contribute to this board even though I am retired-especially since none of the mods have either mentioned it nor deleted my post.

Then I guess it is a good thing you retired, since I think this gentleman's reaction was nothing out of the ordinary.

No one ever said you could not post here, I was just curious is all as to why. What do mods deleting posts have to do with anything?

Originally Posted by heatherelite

Actually, you seemed to have completely agreed with me in that it was ridiculous to make an alert on the orignial post. Hope you didn't put any money down on that 6 month bet.

Not at all. Quite the contrary. I don't know what you were reading. I agreed that perhaps alert was too strong of a word to use, but the sentiment behind the argument for a warning/heads up still stands.

Nope, no money down, but it did make you reply as I expected!

Originally Posted by heatherelite

He didn't make the choice to not have a child with her. Yes, it might have been completely unintentional as most accidents are but the fact remains he willingly consented to have sex with her knowing the risks. Birth control is not 100% and if he didn't want to have any children perhaps he should consider a vasectomy just as mush as she should consider a tubal ligation. He made the choice to run away and hide. As you said, we are all aware of the risks so isn't he just as much at fault as she? Yes, she did/or is possibly making the decision to be a single parent should she become pregnant but financially he is still responsible. Not wanting the kid and leaving the possible mother of your child with a tube of spermicide and the morning after pill in not a defense to not paying child support as I'm sure any family court judge will tell you.

You are making this sound like he is having sex with a girlfriend or wife and a mistake happened. This is called PAY 4 PLAY. Why in the world should he be held responsible because the provider is unwilling to have a backup form of birth control? That is clearly HER choice, not his.

Originally Posted by heatherelite

And clients shouldn't take on part of the responsibilty for birth control/STD prevention? Vasectomy, perhaps?

No problems there...... then shouldn't the provider ALSO take responsibility as in secondary birth control? This is a 2 way street. You can't have your argument both ways!

[jokacz]

Perhaps sperm donors should start worrying about women tracking them down for child support?

Or maybe johns should start posting disclaimers akin to the ones the hookers use about consenting adults and not a contract for sex. Something like if you're too fucking stupid to take care of the birth control end of the deal, well tough shit, because I didn't come here to knock you up, dumbass. The only reason I'm wearing this fucking rubber is because you won't fuck me without it lest you think I might give you some STD. So you better have an effective Plan B to keep your sorry ass from getting pregnant because it's not my job.

[GP]

Originally Posted by jokacz

Perhaps sperm donors should start worrying about women tracking them down for child support?

good analogy!

except that is pretty easy to argue since no actual sex took place.

Originally Posted by jokacz

Or maybe johns should start posting disclaimers akin to the ones the hookers use about consenting adults and not a contract for sex. Something like if you're too fucking stupid to take care of the birth control end of the deal, well tough shit, because I didn't come here to knock you up, dumbass. The only reason I'm wearing this fucking rubber is because you won't fuck me without it lest you think I might give you some STD. So you better have an effective Plan B to keep your sorry ass from getting pregnant because it's not my job.

I can see the BP ads now.

pics are 100% real, very open minded, 200h unrushed, I am ovulating. I will not use spermicide or day after pill. In case I get prego, you must have a blank check filled out to me so I can raise your child. I am waiting........ no one has called me yet this month. I can't figure out why.

[Lexxxy]

Originally Posted by jokacz

Perhaps sperm donors should start worrying about women tracking them down for child support?

Or maybe johns should start posting disclaimers akin to the ones the hookers use about consenting adults and not a contract for sex. Something like if you're too fucking stupid to take care of the birth control end of the deal, well tough shit, because I didn't come here to knock you up, dumbass. The only reason I'm wearing this fucking rubber is because you won't fuck me without it lest you think I might give you some STD. So you better have an effective Plan B to keep your sorry ass from getting pregnant because it's not my job.

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[Lexxxy]

Originally Posted by GP

good analogy!

except that is pretty easy to argue since no actual sex took place.





I can see the BP ads now.

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[JONBALLS]

if your gonna hang a kid out there your a fuckin animal

[GP]

This is not about the child, it is about a provider not taking the proper precautions. I am just saying that letting the gentlemen/customer know about her ahead of time. Then let them chose if they want to see her knowing full well what to possibly expect.

[JONBALLS]

the vast majority are not in control of their lives, dont pretend you dont know that, and your expecting them to be point on with their birth control?

the man has to take control and protect himself, not etry and explain it away ,your not even in reality here....Im with webber, pull the fuck out with a condom on or expect to take responsibility for breaking it..


or I guess just go see lexyexclusively

I mean that is the purpose of this fake thrAD ? correct.?...........to highlight how smart she is?

[jokacz]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: that 5 dollar co-pay for my vasectomy in 1986 was the best money I've ever spent.

[JONBALLS]

Ive never had one or a baby

[GP]

My co-pay was 20 bucks for it.....

I agree, the MAN has to protect HIMSELF. That is why we use throw away hobby phones and throw away email accounts.

[JONBALLS]

then dont complain about obuma and welfare kids

and I dont have any phones like that eigher

[jokacz]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

then dont complain about obuma and welfare kids

No welfare kids, mom is making 200 bucks an hour ;-)