Army reports grim milestone in troop suicides

[CuteOldGuy]

Something radically wrong here. We really need to refigure our military strategy.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79812.html

[CuteOldGuy]

Yes, if your bank is determined to be "too big to fail" under the Dodd Frank rules, you get automatic bailouts if you screw up your company, or make sweetheart deals with friends and executives. I mean, what a gravy train Dod Frank has provided the banksters. I thought they were regulating. Oh, yeah. If you're small enough to fail, you will be regulated, but if you are too big, the regulations are suggestions. What a great gig if you can get it.

More phony bastards. Giving the illusion of protecting the system, but in reality only protecting themselves and their cronies.

Are you really not tired of this shit? Really?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin...ilout-program/

[theaustinescorts]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Something radically wrong here. We really need to refigure our military strategy.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79812.html

"refigure our military strategy?" What?????????

Do you really think this has anything to do with "strategy?"

The Dept of Defense has studied this issue for the last ten years and the result is this...

US servicement kill themsleves in record numbers for the same reason German soldiers in Poland in 1939 killed themselves in large numbers.

Would you care to guess what that reason is?

Could you admit that Poland and Iraq have something in common?

[CuteOldGuy]

Oops, the bank thing was supposed to be a new thread.

On the suicides, enlighten us, tae.

[theaustinescorts]

These were "wars of choice."

The reasons given the troops as to why we had to go there, because of the threat of weapons of mass destruction and al-Qaeda, turned out to be hollow.

Most troops entered service for non-patriotic reasons - college tuition, to have a job, etc.

The horror to a young person of having their whole optumistic view of the world shattered can be so devestating that it can cause a person to give up on life altogether.

Even for the strongest people it takes a robust support system to keep them plugging ahead in life and seeing some point to keep on living despite the aweful lessons they've learned.

Life has both profound good, and profound bad.

These poor kids have just seen too much of the bad all at once.

They deserve our understanding and help.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

These were "wars of choice."

The reasons given the troops as to why we had to go there, because of the threat of weapons of mass destruction and al-Qaeda, turned out to be hollow.

Most troops entered service for non-patriotic reasons - college tuition, to have a job, etc.

The horror to a young person of having their whole optumistic view of the world shattered can be so devestating that it can cause a person to give up on life altogether.

Even for the strongest people it takes a robust support system to keep them plugging ahead in life and seeing some point to keep on living despite the aweful lessons they've learned.

Life has both profound good, and profound bad.

These poor kids have just seen too much of the bad all at once.

They deserve our understanding and help.

You keep me confused where you are coming from. This post is a good one.

[dilbert firestorm]

dealing the post stress traumatic disorder (PSTD).. US military is half assed on this topic. they''re studying for solutions.

there needs to be a sort of a draw down from the military lifestyle they were trained under. Even the Zulus recognized the need to have some sort of ritual drawn down/excessive for their warriors so that they wouldn't be a danger to themselves and to those around them. U.S. doesn't have anything like that.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

"refigure our military strategy?" What?????????

Do you really think this has anything to do with "strategy?"

The Dept of Defense has studied this issue for the last ten years and the result is this...

US servicement kill themsleves in record numbers for the same reason German soldiers in Poland in 1939 killed themselves in large numbers.

Would you care to guess what that reason is?

Could you admit that Poland and Iraq have something in common?

first I've heard of this about german soldiers suiciding on Poland, but what about the rest of the war?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

first I've heard of this about german soldiers suiciding on Poland, but what about the rest of the war?

Especially high among those assigned to the Einsatzgruppen.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Especially high among those assigned to the Einsatzgruppen.

had to look that up to see what group that was.

its part of the SS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

These were "wars of choice."

The reasons given the troops as to why we had to go there, because of the threat of weapons of mass destruction and al-Qaeda, turned out to be hollow.

Most troops entered service for non-patriotic reasons - college tuition, to have a job, etc.

The horror to a young person of having their whole optumistic view of the world shattered can be so devestating that it can cause a person to give up on life altogether.

Even for the strongest people it takes a robust support system to keep them plugging ahead in life and seeing some point to keep on living despite the aweful lessons they've learned.

Life has both profound good, and profound bad.

These poor kids have just seen too much of the bad all at once.

They deserve our understanding and help.

You could have saved a lot of bandwidth by just posting:

"It's Bush and Cheney's fault."

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

It's Bush and Cheney's fault.

LL, after all of these years, we have finally found something we agree on. I knew you would eventually come around!

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

had to look that up to see what group that was.

its part of the SS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen

"Just following orders" wasn't enough. Many were deeply conflicted and could not emotionally reconcile the enormity of what they were doing with their innate sense of morality.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

"Just following orders" wasn't enough. Many were deeply conflicted and could not emotionally reconcile the enormity of what they were doing with their innate sense of morality.

they apparently didn't have any problems killing adults, but killing children was certainly a problem for many of them.

I note the interesting response of the 4 christian priests who did nothing about the killing of adult jews, but they responded when they learned of killing jewish children was planned. It was a futile effort.