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Old 08-06-2012, 08:52 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Romney gets caught lying about Obama, military voters

By Steve Benen
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Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

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President Obama greets troops at Camp Victory in Baghdad.


After spending the last several months paying attention to Mitt Romney's habitual dishonesty at a granular level, I've become largely inured to his more routine, casual lies. Some of the deliberate falsehoods are just too common to get upset about.
But once in a while, Romney tells a lie so blatant and offensive that it raises questions anew about the candidate's character and what standards of decency he's prepared to abandon to advance his ambitions.


As Rachel explained on the show on Thursday, voting rights in Ohio have been a mess in recent cycles, and new voter-suppression tactics imposed by state Republican lawmakers are inviting "chaos" at the polls this fall. Of particular interest is a state policy that restricts early-voting rights: active-duty troops can vote up to three days before Election Day, but no one else.


To that end, President Obama's campaign filed a lawsuit a few weeks ago, asking a federal court to "restore in-person early voting for all Ohioans during the three days prior to Election Day." Three weeks later, Romney came up with a new response to the lawsuit, posting this message to Facebook:
"President Obama's lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the state's early voting period is an outrage. The brave men and women of our military make tremendous sacrifices to protect and defend our freedoms, and we should do everything we can to protect their fundamental right to vote. I stand with the fifteen military groups that are defending the rights of military voters, and if I'm entrusted to be the commander-in-chief, I'll work to protect the voting rights of our military, not undermine them."
Got that? Obama wants all eligible Ohio voters, including servicemen and women, to have the same ability to vote, which Romney says, in writing, means Obama is trying to "undermine" the troops' ability to vote.


This is as loathsome a lie as Romney has told all year -- and given his record, that's not an easy threshold to meet.


It's important to realize that this isn't a matter of opinion. CNN's headline over the weekend said, "Romney campaign jabs at Obama over voting rights suit." The headline on the Politico homepage yesterday said, "Obama, Mitt camps spar on military voting."


No. Wrong. No one is "jabbing" or "sparring." One candidate lied and got caught. Full stop.


Indeed, when pressed, Romney's spokesperson could point to "no place in Obama's lawsuit that seeks to restrict the rights of military voters," and Romney's legal counsel failed to "offer evidence that Obama's lawsuit would make it tougher for members of the military to vote."


After the campaign's dishonesty was exposed, Romney put a twist on his lie, saying Obama now opposes giving the troops special treatment. But even by Republican standards, this is insane -- by this reasoning, Romney supports a policy that discriminates against military veterans in Ohio who would be legally prohibited from the same early-voting rights as active-duty servicemen and women.
Does Romney want to deny special treatment for veterans of foreign wars? Does Romney think it's befitting a Commander in Chief to deny equal voting rights to those who put their lives on the line to defend the United States?


Yesterday, the Republican presidential campaign said the Obama campaign's lawsuit calling for equal voting rights is "despicable."


It's as if words no longer have any meaning, and Americans politics has become so blisteringly stupid, candidates believe they can say literally anything and get away with it.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:57 PM   #2
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You lost me at "as Rachel explained". We all know that is Ron Reagan Jr....Jeeeezeusss...
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:53 PM   #3
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if President Obama’s position prevails, everyone, including Ohio’s currently active military and Ohio’s veterans, will have a right to utilize the final 3 days of early voting. If Romney’s position prevails, 913,000 Ohio veterans will lose access to the final 3 days of early voting.


clearing thing up for the simpletons, Romney lied or was extremely misleading at best.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:07 PM   #4
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A politician lies!?! Say it isn't so!!!! I am disillusioned!!!!

However I am surprised that the Reps would do this--generally military voters tend to lean Republican.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:12 PM   #5
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at least the people of Indiana are waking up to the lying fucking commie

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...iana_president
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:25 PM   #6
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Romney's not a commie. He's a mormon demon sent to pillage the world of its riches.
Obamas a socialist .
Who's the commie, besides me?
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:30 AM   #7
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I think your understanding is less than you think it is. Lets try logic; for the sake of argument lets say that everyone gets to vote on election day. According to Ohio law the active duty military get to vote up to three days early. Okay, try to hold that thought. Everyone gets to vote and the military get an extra three days before the election. So what exactly is the point of the Obama lawsuit? Everyone already gets to vote so what is the point that they can vote three days early? The military I understand and the same case could probably be made for first responders who work daily or 12 hour shifts. I still don't understand what Obama hopes to accomplish. Care to try to explain what benefit is provided.

You are also making the same mistake that you claim Romney made (which he didn't). If Obama fails in his law suit the military will continue to get that extra three days to vote before election day. The status quo prevails.
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I think your understanding is less than you think it is. Lets try logic; for the sake of argument lets say that everyone gets to vote on election day. According to Ohio law the active duty military get to vote up to three days early. Okay, try to hold that thought. Everyone gets to vote and the military get an extra three days before the election. So what exactly is the point of the Obama lawsuit? Everyone already gets to vote so what is the point that they can vote three days early? The military I understand and the same case could probably be made for first responders who work daily or 12 hour shifts. I still don't understand what Obama hopes to accomplish. Care to try to explain what benefit is provided.

You are also making the same mistake that you claim Romney made (which he didn't). If Obama fails in his law suit the military will continue to get that extra three days to vote before election day. The status quo prevails.

yada yada yada

your Beerfart article was shit btw.
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Okay, you don't have a response. I expected that. What article are you talking about?
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I watched Romney's ad and he flat out lies, again. I am not sure anyone can debate that. It is real simple, President Obama's campaign filed a lawsuit a few weeks ago, asking a federal court to "restore in-person early voting for all Ohioans during the three days prior to Election Day." That is inclusive of all active duty troops.
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. I still don't understand what Obama hopes to accomplish. Care to try to explain what benefit is provided.

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Why do you have a problem with everyone getting three extra days to vote?

Also why do you lie and try and say Obama is denying the military the right to vote?
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The Obama Administration is taking a stand against giving the US Military volunteers extra time to cast their vote !

It is that simple.

They don't want the military to have the extra days...they know the military overwhelmingly votes against Obama.
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The Obama Administration is taking a stand against giving the US Military volunteers extra time to cast their vote !

It is that simple.

They don't want the military to have the extra days...they know the military overwhelmingly votes against Obama.
You are a liar or having trouble reading.

Obama wants to give the military three extra days , along with all others from Ohio.

He is not wanting to take away those three days, he is wanting to expand it for all. Funny how folks on the right have a problem with that.

Also , the people in the military are not volunteers. They applied for a j o b and got it. They are getting paid. Volunteers typically do not get paid.

By your definition we are all volunteers at our jobs!

Good Lord the spin in here...
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If everybody gets 3 extra days then the Military isn't getting extra time; why does Obama object to giveing the US Military volunteers special treatment ?
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By your definition, AmericCorp and Peace Corp are not volunteers !



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By your definition we are all volunteers at our jobs!

Good Lord the spin in here...
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