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Old 05-14-2010, 04:48 PM   #1
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Default This weeks Avitar ---- who can it be

Okay this weeks Avitar is of two known OC members from Kansas City. Lets see if you can guess the one in the hats name.
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Old 05-14-2010, 05:07 PM   #2
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Sorry had a little trouble getting the picture to upload. But here it is.
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No cheaper not in that era at least in KC, there were a couple of woman who ran with the fellas but did not have any authority, mostly just pin cushions.
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:21 PM   #5
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No guesses on this weeks Avitar
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:42 PM   #6
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At my age, that small a photo could very well be Elvis standing next to Yoko Ono and I wouldn't be able to tell. Looks like some vintage surveillance footage. I'm stumped.
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Yes it is an FBI surveillence photo, it was shot on Independence Ave.
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Shit just noticed their both wearing hats, lets go for the young guy on the left. Can you tell me who he is, here is a hint, he owned a business on Independence Ave, when the boss said someone had to go, he was one of the guys who sent them on their way. He is no longer living, but has relatives.
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I'll take a stab here. Could it be "Willie the Rat" Cammisano?
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I think the one on the left is Frankie Valli and the one next to him might be George Clooney.
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Swarmy you are correct, the one on the right is in fact Willie "the rat" Cammisano, rated in the top 50 as one of the toughest OC crime figures in the US. I wont use the word respected because that offends Papa LOL. But he was most definately feared. Under Willie's control the KC outfit expanded into Miami, Washington DC, Denver, Arizona and California. For extra bonus points can anyone tell me how he got the name "the Rat".

Okay now that we have met Willie, can anyone tell me who the guy on the left is, the skinny one with the black hat. Well known person, owned a business on the Ave, was the outfits top hitman.
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Sorry Jackie, I know its not a great pic.
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[quote=dirty dog;298876]Swarmy you are correct, the one on the right is in fact Willie "the rat" Cammisano, rated in the top 50 as one of the toughest OC crime figures in the US. I wont use the word respected because that offends Papa LOL. But he was most definately feared. Under Willie's control the KC outfit expanded into Miami, Washington DC, Denver, Arizona and California. For extra bonus points can anyone tell me how he got the name "the Rat".
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I had always heard that he got the name because he "alledgedly" would dump his victims in the sewer so the rats could eat them.
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:06 PM   #15
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Your correct Swarmy, the nickname was given to Willie by LE because of his preference to have people left in the Sewers. He hated the name, and if you would have called him that he would have probably left you in the sewer. The only time he would leave a body anywhere else would be if he wanted it found to send a message such as the body of David Bonadana.

Okay folks who is the other guy.
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