WSJ Chief Economist: 75% of Obamacare Costs Will Fall on Backs of Those Making Less Than $120K a Year

[CuteOldGuy]

75% of the cost of Obamacare will fall on people making less than $120K per year. Is that what you wanted? I thought health care was going to be free for everyone. Hmmm . . . Guess not.

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/06/3...n-120k-a-year/

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

75% of the cost of Obamacare will fall on people making less than $120K per year. Is that what you wanted? I thought health care was going to be free for everyone. Hmmm . . . Guess not.

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/06/3...n-120k-a-year/

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[CuteOldGuy]

Didn't watch the video, did you? Or you're ok with the cost falling on the lap of the middle class.

[CJ7]

video (or whoever made it) didnt read the bill did it ..

• Raise Medicare payroll tax to 2.35% from 1.45% for individuals earning more than $200,000 ($250,000 for married couples).
• Expand Medicare tax to include unearned income of 3.8% on investment income making more than $200,000 ($250,000 for families).
• Increase tax on distributions from HSAs and Archer MSAs not used for qualified medical expenses to 20%.
• Raise 7.5% AGI floor on medical expenses deduction to 10%.
• Limit health flexible spending arrangements in cafeteria plans to $2,500.

• Tax credits for individuals and families with incomes up to 400 percent of poverty (which is just over $88,000 for a family of four).
• Tax credits up to 35% – 50% of costs for some small businesses.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Didn't watch the video, did you? Or you're ok with the cost falling on the lap of the middle class.

Why in the hell would I watch something touted by you. That would like watching something touted by Rush. I am not going to waste my time watching something by either. I will watch something presented by a legitimate source, not a bunch of crybabies.


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[chefnerd]

At this point in time, pretty much anyone says on the matter is speculation. You can find opposing arguments all over the web. Like this opposite opinion:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/28/opinio...are/index.html
Also since he is employed by a Newscorp subsidiary and Fox News is a Newscorp subsidiary, I find it highly unlikely that he would espouse a different opinion than Rupert Murdoch. Also the claim that Obamacare is responsible for insurance rates rising faster than normal has been debunked previously:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...GZpS_blog.html

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

At this point in time, pretty much anyone says on the matter is speculation. You can find opposing arguments all over the web. Like this opposite opinion:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/28/opinio...are/index.html
Also since he is employed by a Newscorp subsidiary and Fox News is a Newscorp subsidiary, I find it highly unlikely that he would espouse a different opinion than Rupert Murdoch. Also the claim that Obamacare is responsible for insurance rates rising faster than normal has been debunked previously:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...GZpS_blog.html

sure its speculation, the basted mandate doesnt go into effect until 2014, but the law itself is directed at helping lower and middle class individuals and families, not saddling them with another financial burden ...

[LovingKayla]

Listen you retarded fucks... The cut backs are happening RIGHT FUCKING NOW. I've got 3 completely disabled people that need the help. and do you want to know what each one gets for food help? 16 dollars. These are indigent folks that truly need help and they are helped by 4 bucks a week for food. You can't even do a ramen diet on that.

You motherfuckers have NO idea what it's like in the real world for people that need it. When I helped one call down to find out why she got 16$ do u know what they said? "Sorry cutbacks. Everyone is Preping for obamacare. There isn't any money right now to feed everyone. ".

The only good thing that came out of this fuck load of crap is the fact it has stimulated grass roots conservative action.

How many of you shit for brains dems, republicans or even indys make it your responsibility to feed at least one extra person? It's not the "governments Job" it's OUR job.

Is there even ONE of you? Why don't you guys go and actually try to make a difference in someone's life instead of sissy fighting like retarded school girls.

The cut backs and here folks. I've now got 3 extra people that need 100% of their food covered because the help from the government is gone thanks to obamacare. Your replues are worthless unless you have FIRST hand knowledge of what's happening out here.


You that are pro Obama care make me sick to my stomach. You have no idea NONE.


Ps. If you make anything over 25k or so a year YOU will be footing the bill.

[Sexyeccentric1]

LovingK,

The food snaps cut backs are not being affected by the new passed health care law. Our wonderful Rick Perry and some other Texas members of congress voted to cut SNAP by $33 billion back in April. See Link to SNAP benefit cuts

Just like all the other wonderful things Repubs are doing to people of low income

Quote: Texas' poor performance, which is lower than the national average of 1 in 7, means missed meals for children and missed dollars for the state. Texas families can find nearby summer meal sites and more information by calling 2-1-1 or through the Texas Department of Agriculture's

See also: http://www.cppp.org/subcategory.php?cid=3&scid=5

See also Ryan Budget Republicans Would Slash SNAP Funding

This is not even closely related to the new health care law and most of these cuts were implemented last year and also this year.

And.. as a matter of fact I do have an idea, being that I have family that are disabled and on SS and medicare, medicaid and also those who are on the SNAP food benefits program.

[essence]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

Listen you retarded fucks...

Why is US #1 in health care costs and #40 or so in mortality rates? I have first hand knowledge of that, what do you intend to do about it, or do you accept the murder of thousands of your fellow citizens?

[CJ7]

meals on wheels can help, or should.


the cutbacks are because of the states $25 billion dollar deficit, not from the state ramping down for legislation that hasnt happened yet .. the state deficit is the same reason Brewer in Az took people waiting for an organ transplant off the list

[Sexyeccentric1]

Originally Posted by CJ7

meals on wheels can help, or should.


the cutbacks are because of the states $25 billion dollar deficit, not from the state ramping down for legislation that hasnt happened yet .. the state deficit is the same reason Brewer in Az took people waiting for an organ transplant off the list

Exactly! Thank you

[Doove]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

Listen you retarded fucks... The cut backs are happening RIGHT FUCKING NOW. I've got 3 completely disabled people that need the help. and do you want to know what each one gets for food help? 16 dollars. These are indigent folks that truly need help and they are helped by 4 bucks a week for food. You can't even do a ramen diet on that.

You motherfuckers have NO idea what it's like in the real world for people that need it. When I helped one call down to find out why she got 16$ do u know what they said? "Sorry cutbacks. Everyone is Preping for obamacare. There isn't any money right now to feed everyone. ".

The only good thing that came out of this fuck load of crap is the fact it has stimulated grass roots conservative action.

How many of you shit for brains dems, republicans or even indys make it your responsibility to feed at least one extra person? It's not the "governments Job" it's OUR job.

Is there even ONE of you? Why don't you guys go and actually try to make a difference in someone's life instead of sissy fighting like retarded school girls.

The cut backs and here folks. I've now got 3 extra people that need 100% of their food covered because the help from the government is gone thanks to obamacare. Your replues are worthless unless you have FIRST hand knowledge of what's happening out here.


You that are pro Obama care make me sick to my stomach. You have no idea NONE.


Ps. If you make anything over 25k or so a year YOU will be footing the bill.

Do you have any idea how self contradictory your whole post is?

I mean, really. What a load of crap.

[Ducbutter]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

At this point in time, pretty much anyone says on the matter is speculation. You can find opposing arguments all over the web. Like this opposite opinion:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/28/opinio...are/index.html
Also since he is employed by a Newscorp subsidiary and Fox News is a Newscorp subsidiary, I find it highly unlikely that he would espouse a different opinion than Rupert Murdoch. Also the claim that Obamacare is responsible for insurance rates rising faster than normal has been debunked previously:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...GZpS_blog.html

Dude, you trash Fox News and then you reference CNN and the Wash. Post as unbiased sources?
That's hilarious.
Couldn't find any Chris Mathews?

[Little Stevie]

Originally Posted by Sexyeccentric1

LovingK,

The food snaps cut backs are not being affected by the new passed health care law. Our wonderful Rick Perry and some other Texas members of congress voted to cut SNAP by $33 billion back in April. See Link to SNAP benefit cuts

Just like all the other wonderful things Repubs are doing to people of low income

Quote: Texas' poor performance, which is lower than the national average of 1 in 7, means missed meals for children and missed dollars for the state. Texas families can find nearby summer meal sites and more information by calling 2-1-1 or through the Texas Department of Agriculture's

See also: http://www.cppp.org/subcategory.php?cid=3&scid=5

See also Ryan Budget Republicans Would Slash SNAP Funding

This is not even closely related to the new health care law and most of these cuts were implemented last year and also this year.

And.. as a matter of fact I do have an idea, being that I have family that are disabled and on SS and medicare, medicaid and also those who are on the SNAP food benefits program.

Great post Sexyeccentric1 but Kayla just listens to Lush Bimbo and Hannity and those dimwits.

With a post like that, the word "RETARDED" needs LovingKayla's picture next to it in the dictionary!

What you are seeing is the cuts DEMANDED by the Teapublicans who fought the debt ceiling bill and worked on NOTHING but ABORTION and VOTER I.D. BILLS during their entire tenure since being elected.

Every spending bill or jobs bill designed to help ordinary Americans or to rebuild infrastructure or offered to help the needy got threatened with a filibuster! Will you please grow a brain instead of casually listening to AM Hate Radio and believing their crap? And we've got Teapublicans voting FOR the V-22 Osprey and other defense overspending based on stupid ideas.

Every time that abortion of an aircraft flies two weeks, they have another failure or a crash and have to work on "enhancing" the computer flight system because of all the opposing forces and angles the design has. Hell, the Russians built a JET-powered vertical take off fighter for less money than the V-22. It only crashed once and they were smart enough to realize it was an overrated idea! The V-22 is just one more example of an out-of-control military. That aircraft wouldn't help our military even a tiny fraction as much as the cost it would take to finish it.

The Pentagon and the Teapublicans LAUGH at how well they have YOU fooled, Kayla!.