problem with provider ads

[offshoredrilling]

jack you win. it blew up in my face dam am I having fun now.

anyways the problem with provider ads. .
few read the ad right.
then do not do as asked in the ad.
So now I had to pull a few fast moves, pull a few strings
And hope the smoke clears in the morning

I would think most would do as asked in a provider ad. But no. mmmmm well 5 did. . anyways. to most .

so here is the game does jack know what is not the same now as before mmm a yes or no please jack. lol


So if a provider asks to meet her do this and that. you are to say to self ya or na on that. If ya want to met her but no do as asked. ya got to know she may become a bit bitchy about that. Now there is ways around it sometimes. But its a waiting game thing I will not tell. But most seem to be in the I WANT IT NOW mode. So it will not work for ya anyways. ha ha

some will know what this is about. other will not. I can not tell ya what its about. ha ha. but its still on shhhhhhhhh

part was rules of the board. mmm and one members concern about. cool
a bigger part was bitching about. ya ok not a biggie
and the biggest part. NOT DOING AS A PROVIDER ASKED FOR YOU TO GET SOMETHING YOU WANTED.

if ya have the answer as to what is not here that was before. PM me.

if the smoke clears it may or may not return. me thinking not

The shit I pulled to make better fast, made for other problems for me, no problem. Just blame it on me mmm or is that Bush.

now the ONLY DEBATE FOR THIS THREad.

is
why if ya want to meet a provider in a timely manner. But not ok with her demands to do so, or ok with what she wants. Why would ya not pass on her, or do as asked. WHY

[offshoredrilling]

sweet. no one wants to touch this one. PM me for details, answers.

have been working keeping my PM open. If filled, I will move to cleaning two times a day.
So ya can try again. mmmm 50 is to few. I need to think about PA again.

[pyramider]

Show me pics of female taint and I will muddle thru your original post.

[Guest121613]

I can't believe an OSD THREad has been up for 12 days, and only one additional commenter. I will add a comment, though many already understand it

I find that is providers that have have more rules, usually are trying to sell a better package, or trying to draw more money. Sometimes, I think the rules help sort out guys for higher demand providers. I talked to one recently, who get 200 emails a day. So lets say your an HDH OSD, LOL, and you get 200 e-mails a day, maybe 100 real inquiries, maybe 20 can spell and write coherently, and you can see one to eight of them, depending on how fast the door can rotate, guess what, you will have rules to sort out the riff raff, and pull in high dollar donors (suckers, LOL), and more consistent customers.

Some are easy to set a time with, and I prefer it that way, and will frequent them. I will also set my sights on a rule oriented lady, and will play in the rules if I think they are worth it.

Let's say your a good provider that hates e-mail, or doesn't have patience for computer shit, or have trouble figuring out how to turn the dam thing on, you will just have a policy that is like "hey call me about an hour before you ready" and the sort out occurs, because when you're busy, you can't answer the phone, and the volume levels it self out over time.

[GP]

[jackfengshui]

I can only mention how I use ECCIE ads.

For a lady I know, I mainly look for her schedule. I will also confess that the word "special" usually catches my attention.

For a lady I have not met, I have to decide from her schedule and general profile whether to look for more information in the ad or her webpage. I will then see whether her contact/screening procedure works for me. I will also check for reviews before making any appointment.

I do read the ad/webpage carefully and try to follow the instructions/guidelines. I usually avoid a lady who:

• comes in town for a day or less;
• screens with personal information;
• uses phone calls only (no email or text).

[Guest121613]

What a hoot Jack, you just ruled out like 50% of my providers, but you are right good advice. My spin below.

* Wait, some of mine leave the next day, not the same day, so I am good, right?
* Ok, I agree with screens with personal info, though I have made a couple exceptions in HDH arena,
* Some of "phone call" only type give the best head.

[jackfengshui]

I understand a lady's need to state her rules upfront in an attempt to reduce the number of unpromising inquiries. For my part, I have thin skin and usually do not even attempt to ask a lady to bend her rules for me. However, recently I approached a lady who stated that she does not see married men and requires personal information to screen. Nevertheless, even with the two strikes, she agreed to see me.

[Gentleman Jack]

Hey guys,

Please allow me to ask a semi-related question. I am a newbie in the sense that I have yet to participate, although I have tried several times. One provider who was recommended and is very, very popular, requires screening. While I didn't have a problem with that, I DID have a problem with giving up where I work. Seems less than discrete, a little dangerous and too much information. Unfortuantely, we were unable to consumate due to this one question.

Your opinions? Should this be asked and should it be answered?

Thanks for your input.

Signed,

Frustrated Member

[jackfengshui]

Originally Posted by Gentleman Jack

Should this be asked?

It is definitely her prerogative.

Originally Posted by Gentleman Jack

should it be answered?

Some people do, some don't. I don't.

Alternatively, you can establish your "credentials" by starting with more newbie-friendly providers, such as AmyNY and Anita Germane.

[ms_anika]

Originally Posted by Gentleman Jack

Hey guys,

Please allow me to ask a semi-related question. I am a newbie in the sense that I have yet to participate, although I have tried several times. One provider who was recommended and is very, very popular, requires screening. While I didn't have a problem with that, I DID have a problem with giving up where I work. Seems less than discrete, a little dangerous and too much information. Unfortuantely, we were unable to consumate due to this one question.

Your opinions? Should this be asked and should it be answered?

Thanks for your input.

Signed,

Frustrated Member

GJ,

When a provider requires the name of your employer and your direct office number it is almost always for one of the following two reasons:

1. simply to verify you are the person you are claiming to be

and more (if not most) importantly,

2. to confirm that you are not LE.

For me personally, I also want to ensure that we do not have the same employer.

It also serves to establish trust and comfortableness, knowing that you almost definitely do not intend to cause us harm as recourse would be available because your identity is confirmed.

If you are dealing with known, stable, safe, and reputable independent providers then furnishing that information really should be a non issue.


Consider it from our perspective - without verifiable personal information we would be allowing someone we haven't met, are unable to identify, and who probably contacted us via anonymous phone or email to not only know where we live, but to come into our homes and to be alone with us in a capacity in which we are at our most vulnerable.

Would you do that?

I always understand when someone is unwilling to give me verifiable employment or business information. Unfortunately, not all gentlemen are as understanding when I refuse to see them solely because of that.

Realize that when dealing with a "very, very popular" high end, high demand provider there are plenty of other gentlemen who already have given the same information being required from you.

If it's not you spending an hour or two with us, it will just be someone else...

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by ms_elizabeth

If you are dealing with known, stable, safe, and reputable independent providers then furnishing that information really should be a non issue.
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theres no possibility of EVER knowing this with ENOUGH CERTAINTY , I dont care WHO the hook is........ to go along with that...dont do it, move on..ijs

bottom line, you PERSONALLY have NEVER met the girl and have NO WAY of knowing what little quirks in EIGHER personality that MAY arise out of the blue, that you would never had imagined going in, could even create a problem , until two dissimilar personalities clash for whatever reason ,,

then you have a class a shit storm on your hands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC3AV29Un-g
you cant go by what personalities are on display for this board

[Gentleman Jack]

ms elizabeth,

First, I agree that she should be able to set her own rules and ask anything she wants to ask. And I do understand the request from your perspective. And I understand that others have provided that information. However, others have made mistakes and I don't want to repeat them.

Second, I did offer both my NYS driver's license and my passport in order to prove my identity.

Also, no matter what information is exchanged, I believe that both parties incur some measure of risk. It's inherent in the way we meet initially and it's inherent in what we are doing. You can't eliminate it by knowing where I work and I can't eliminate it by knowing where you live. In fact, through my IDs, you would know where I live as well, Furthermore. I contacted her through this site and used my only (unblocked) phone, so she has another way to verify my identity.

The provider and I talked by phone a few times and truthfully, I think we both missed an opportunity. You state that someone else will simply take my place. True enough. However, someone will take hers as well.

I tend to agree with Jonballs. In fact, this happened several months ago and we both moved on. I just decided now to ask the question in this forum.

Jack, as far as "credentials", this provider stated that she would not accept references from other providers. Wouldn't that eliminate the LE issue?

I appreciate everyone who responded and hope that more do.

Peace.

[GP]

Originally Posted by Gentleman Jack

You state that someone else will simply take my place. True enough. However, someone will take hers as well.

[Guest091813]

umm well...you might wanna make her feel comfy about whre ya work...otherwise she may think your you know..not right.. police and all..how is she to know? by your word? you tellen her your not a cop...ummyeah..

..iffen she's inviten ya to her place then you know more about her than she u..and really ..does she have a photographic memory..probly not...

also she may not wanna contact others cuz they may not act right ,,or they probly dint screen ya...iffen your not given her info..you probly didnt give them others info either....plus she may nt want those ladies in her biz..and some of them ladies..they dont vouch...serious..big hassle aversion there..

however..im sure there are many that would see ya..good luck then mate..