"" SHES LOW VOLUME "" ???

["SLICKBACK"]

It has always amused me how women use the term Low Provider, as if it meant they were a virgin or something. Low Providing was originally associated with exclusive high end agency or independent providers. Women that were true professional providers, college educated, top dollar looks and sophistication. These women usually associated in top levels of societal social clubs and were continually comitted to only 3-4 clients at a time. The clients they saw were usually the elite businessmen and professionals. Their rates were never questioned and ran in the range of 10-15K per day maybe 45K for a weekend.

A true LOW VOLUME top dollar provider could earn 500K plus on 10 engagements a year.

[LAVixian]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Isn't it amazing how no one talks about "low volume" hobbyists?

haha high five!!!!!! this should be a brand new thread!

[Laurentius]

There are only so many men who hobby.

Some men are gay and don't find female providers attractive. Others don't earn enough money that they can afford to drop as much as an average guy's paycheck on just one hour with a woman. Many men are married and faithful to their wives. Others have concerns about disease, law enforcment, etc.

So the number of potential clients out there has a finite limit.

Some hobbyists seek variety and see lots of providers. Others see only one provider. Then there are guys who just generally alternate between a handful and rarely add anyone new.

Basically, the universe of available hobby clients is reasonably finite. A few basic guesses -- top 15% of income, most of whom are married, 70% of husbands don't cheat, etc. -- gives maybe 5% of the adult male population participating in this aspect of the hobby with significant regularity. I'm sure there are guys that just do it once, or once in a long while, etc. In some polls, 30% of men admit to having seen a provider once. But, again, most of those aren't regular participants.

Meanwhile, statistics on number of providers are generally given as between 1%-2% of the population. But this includes people involved in human trade, slavery, street prostitution, etc. When you just narrow it down to what WE think of when we think of providers; there really aren't that many. So figure it is .5% of the female population.

Just fiddling around with the number, I think the ratio of hobbyists to providers is fairly small -- like 15:1.

And a lot of providers will tell you -- quite honestly -- that their core client base is composed of just a handful of guys (between 3 and 12) who repeat. Many of those guys see no other providers but that one.

So while I can believe numbers as high as maybe 1,000 for total clients; numbers exceeding 3,000 make no sense because they assume a non-limited client-base.

[LAVixian]

There are alot of hobbyist who don't even participate on the forum boards. And alot that do but don't post reviews. And alot who are completely unaware of the forums boards. I firmly believe that there are more hobbyists than there are providers. To each their own....

[Laurentius]

Originally Posted by LAVixian

There are alot of hobbyist who don't even participate on the forum boards. And alot that do but don't post reviews. And alot who are completely unaware of the forums boards. I firmly believe that there are more hobbyists than there are providers. To each their own....

I believe that persistent hobbyists outnumber providers by about 15 hobbyists for every provider. But that's just a guess. There would be an even larger number of less frequent hobbyists.

I simply do not believe that an average "low volume" provider has seen anywhere near 3,000 men.

[Sweet Heather]

HA HA HA I've always been amused at the discussions of "low volume".


A provider that "only" sleeps with 3000 clients a year is so much more dignified and desirable than a provider that sleeps with *gasp* 7000 clients a year.

Suuuurrrrre.

It's all relative. H

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by Sweet Heather

HA HA HA I've always been amused at the discussions of "low volume".


A provider that "only" sleeps with 3000 clients a year is so much more dignified and desirable than a provider that sleeps with *gasp* 7000 clients a year.

Suuuurrrrre.

It's all relative. H

These discussions amuse me as well. They are subjective, can't be defined to everyone's liking and ultimately don't matter anyway as long as she gives a good session.

I take your point but you might want to check your math though...either of those would be mega high volume

Originally Posted by LAVixian

. I firmly believe that there are more hobbyists than there are providers. ....

I should hope so.....

Originally Posted by Laurentius

I believe that persistent hobbyists outnumber providers by about 15 hobbyists for every provider. But that's just a guess. There would be an even larger number of less frequent hobbyists.

I simply do not believe that an average "low volume" provider has seen anywhere near 3,000 men.

I don't know what the actual ratio is but one can kind of do a sanity check. Assume you are an average hobbyist, maybe even a big spender. How much do you spend a year on gals? How many of "you" would it take to support a provider. Then figure in say a 1/3rd of her gross for expenses (we'll give her a pass on taxes here). What number do you come up with? 5, 10, 15, 25, 50? Certainly >1....

[UNDER THE RADAR]

It is hard to comprehend how many people you have in this country at any given time. About ten years ago we hit 250 million plus legal citizens. Then you have people visiting the U.S. from Europe and abroad, go to Disney World and see how many Asians, Europeans, and people from all over the world their is. I would say at any given moment you would have over 300 million people in the U.S..

Now lets take a major U.S. city in a good hobby market like Houston. Houston has a population of over 5 million. Now lets say the population 60-40 female to male, 40% of 5 million would be 2 million men in Houston, and at any given moment probably 25% would be active or potential hobbiest, so that would give you around 500 thousand potential clients in a market like houston.


From a income stand point only 10% of the population make over 50K/year and a male with a income over 50K would probably be able to hobby on a frequent basis, so this would make around 50 thousand men in the Houston area with incomes to hobby, and be potential hobbiest. Now using the same figures only 5% of the women in a market are potiential adult industry entertainers, strippers, escorts, massage etc., so this would give you around 150 thousand potential providers in a city like Houston, not counting the girls who travel market to market. So statisticly there is a 3 to 1 provider to client ratio in any given market.

[vnurse]

Hmmm, I think I'm going to raise my rate to $5K then only see one client per month, hell, maybe one every TWO months! I would even consider multiple hours for that rate too. What do you think?

[hd]

Maybe someone has already said this, but I think it's all relative. Low volume is doing enough bussiness to give yourself a comfortable living. It may be one per week or a bazillion per week, and connected to how much your rate is. You do whatever it takes to meet your goal.

I am a low volume hobbyist, but that's driven by the availability of my desposable $. But none of you know what my volume is, could be one per month or one per day?

[China Doll]

Just for some perspective, I have been hobbying for ten or eleven months, and I have seen far less than 100 clients, and that includes the ones I saw when I started at an agency. I'll keep the exact number to meself, thank you!

I think you're all right about how the term "low volume" is subjective. When I became independent shortly after starting out at an agency, I considered myself low volume, and I still do. It took me a while to learn that almost everybody uses that term, including ladies that see three times as many men as I do per week.
There will never be an accepted definition for "low volume," and let's face it, it wouldn't matter. Some ladies would lie for professional reasons, and some ladies would lie because they don't feel that it's anyone's business. I suppose that I must understand that, given that I am unwilling to provide the exact number of clients I have seen.

I agree with atl in that it shouldn't matter how many clients she sees as long as the sessions are good. I think that most of the ladies go to great lengths to protect themselves and their clients.

[Crash Davis]

I would agree with CD that "low volume" is subjective by the client. For myself low volume would mean 2 or 3 a week with most being regulars. The thought of being #3 or #4 or more for the day is a turnoff for me, I wish I could get over this as there are lots of beautiful ladies who travel and are set up in a hotel, but I can't get the image out of my mind of 15 min between the next guy. Maybe I hold the word "escort" to a higher level than I should. But, being held up in a hotel getting banged by a different guy each hour a different word comes to mind.... My comment is not meant to offend anyone, just my thoughts.....

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Isn't it amazing how no one talks about "low volume" hobbyists?

They are also called broke dick.

[Megan Love]

Dang! I must be EXTRA low volume then. I don't even see two in a week when I'm not touring! Goodness, Hell, I sometimes don't see one in a week when I'm in Nashville.... I should get out more

[Hot to Trot Daphne]

Originally Posted by pyramider

They are also called broke dick.

LMAO