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05-28-2012, 10:22 PM
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Chris Hayes, MSNBC Host, Apologizes
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05-28-2012, 10:33 PM
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Do you understand now wtf he was talking about and how hard it is to actually talk about?
One of the points made during Sunday's show was just how removed most Americans are from the wars we fight, how small a percentage of our population is asked to shoulder the entire burden and how easy it becomes to never read the names of those who are wounded and fight and die, to not ask questions about the direction of our strategy in Afghanistan, and to assuage our own collective guilt about this disconnect with a pro-forma ritual that we observe briefly before returning to our barbecues.
But in seeking to discuss the civilian-military divide and the social distance between those who fight and those who don't, I ended up reinforcing it, conforming to a stereotype of a removed pundit whose views are not anchored in the very real and very wrenching experience of this long decade of war. And for that I am truly sorry
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I have known exactly one person that was lilled in Iraq. One. That is all. That and seeing the Pat Tillman movie. I am no expert on the military but I damn sure know right from wrong. I think/thought it pathetic that we were asked to not pay more in taxes but in fact to pay less and our leadership asked us to shop as if nothing had happened.
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05-28-2012, 10:36 PM
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He's apologizing. And I got his point long ago. Geez, dude! Go watch a movie. Learn something.
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05-28-2012, 10:43 PM
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He is basically apologizing for not being able to correctly articulate his point.
My point has been that with some, there is no way possible to articulate the very salient point
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05-28-2012, 10:43 PM
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Well, that explains why he is on MSNBC.
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05-28-2012, 10:46 PM
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Yes, exactly the same reason Hannity is on Fox.
The difference being , Chris Hayes see's both sides of an issue. If you watched the whole clip , you can see. Sean Hannity would never admit to seeing a liberal side.
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05-28-2012, 10:50 PM
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So? What do I care about Hannity? Nobody mentioned Hannity. Why bring him up? Just because Hannity is an idiot, doesn't mean Hayes gets a freebie.
Did they have a sale on strawmen at Kmart or something?
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05-29-2012, 12:23 AM
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So? What do I care about Hannity? Nobody mentioned Hannity. Why bring him up? Just because Hannity is an idiot, doesn't mean Hayes gets a freebie.
Did they have a sale on strawmen at Kmart or something?
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Since you think he asked for or is trying to get a freebie, you missed the point. Again.
From what I saw, the majority of veterans on the board today agreed the hero label isn't suitable for all of our dead. Not calling them heroes does not demean them. We know who the heroes are. We know who our comrads in arms are
Assholes like Ann C. couldn't care less about our fallen troops. Being an asshole comes before being an American for some.
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05-29-2012, 12:26 AM
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So, I still intend to consider them heroes. Sue me. I can't believe we are arguing about this. I love and respect our servicemen/women. Why am I being flamed for that? You think what you want, I will think what I want.
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05-29-2012, 07:09 AM
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Liberals will defend liberals long before they will defend a person in the service.
Our soldiers do what they are ordered to do. All it takes to stop a soldier from fighting in a war is to order them home.
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05-29-2012, 05:54 PM
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Liberals will defend liberals long before they will defend a person in the service.
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Ah, T2NutLicker, you are such a wit. You can add a "t" to the last word in the previous sentence if it helps you out. Who writes that stupid sh*t for you? I know it interferes with your "moaning points" but you really ought to read what you are trying to comment on.
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05-30-2012, 04:34 PM
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So, I still intend to consider them heroes. Sue me. I can't believe we are arguing about this. I love and respect our servicemen/women. Why am I being flamed for that? You think what you want, I will think what I want.
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Then think it and quit boring us by misusing definitions and being a poster boy for DUMB here in the Sandbox, COF!
You have a right to free speech but those of us who can think, get awfully tired of the one-sided bullshit you post in an attempt to avoid substantive answers and being held accountable for being such a stupid, uninformed post-a-holic.
Maybe it is just me but I have yet to see you acknowledge your errors or even understand the vast majority of posts that are made by intelligent people here.
In fact, I think you post drivel just to keep your stupid replies from being read once you're corrected and your threads start proving your stupidity.
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05-30-2012, 04:38 PM
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Chris Hayes is far from stupid and can speak far more intelligently than you, COF!
To correct you, he is not stupid. The decision or attempt to say what he said might have stupid poorly conceived but that does not mean he is at all stupid.
You, however, remain stupid because of your failure to even understand the subtleties involved in the discussion.
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05-30-2012, 08:13 PM
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[QUOTE=The2Dogs;2742391]Liberals will defend liberals long before they will defend a person in the service.
hope you are wearing your boots when you spew this shit.I know several liberals(I don't hold that against them) they all have the greatest respect for the military. you should engage brain before starting mouth.
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05-30-2012, 10:01 PM
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Stevie, I have acknowledged errors on my part when I make them, unlike I have ever seen you do. And I frequently acknowledge intelligent posts. Just none of them have been yours. Sorry. If you accidentally make an intelligent post, I promise, I will acknowledge it.
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